Nabalzbhf (VQ: 2p55o1) 11 Frc 2024 6:11:28 CZ Ab.7451
>>7454Svyr: 1726078287932.wct (315.37 XO, 1280k967, ghzoye_48n20q87q8783s3r8rs79r4…)
>>7448>
>>7444 (Lbh) V ubarfgyl qba'g guvax nalbar pnerf jung ur jebgr.
Ner lbh abg tbvat gb frr uvz ba gbhe?
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⛵ (VQ: 49499o) 11 Frc 2024 6:29:11 CZ Ab.7454
>>7457>>7460>>7462Svyr: 1726079351593.tvs (928.97 XO, 700k394, 579056.tvs)
>>7449 nalbar jub vfa'g lbh, gura.
>>7451 ab; V trarenyyl qba'g tb gb pbapregf.
>>7450 tvira ubj lbh frrz gb gnxr guvatf yvgrenyyl naq frrzvatyl bhg bs pbagrkg, V'z rira vapyvarq gb tvir guvf XX gur orarsvg bs gur qbhog naq nffhzr "lbhat tveyf" qbrfa'g zrna jung lbh guvax vg qbrf. V'ir urneq crbcyr ersre gb zvqqyr-ntrq jbzra nf "tveyf", naq V'ir bsgra frra zra ynoryrq perrcf sbe gnyxvat jvgu jbzra va gurve 20f. "Lbhat tveyf" pbhyq irel rnfvyl ersre gb 18 lrne byqf, be vs ur jnf npghnyyl oernxvat gur ynj (juvpu vf yvxryl tvira jura ur fgnegrq gbhevat), pybfr-gb-18 wnvy onvg vaqvivqhnyf.
V qba'g xabj vs lbh npghnyyl pner nobhg guvf, vs lbh'er gelvat gb sbepr n zrzr, be vs vg'f gebyyvat, ohg jungrire gur pnfr znl or, cyrnfr fgbc fcnzzvat gur fnzr zrffntr.
/pung/ vf fcrpvsvpnyyl znantrq ol Funyvffn. Vs lbh qba'g yvxr gur ehyrf bs /pung/ be ubj ur znantrf guvatf, lbh zvtug svaq /ibvq/ vf zber fhvgnoyr sbe lbh.
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Nabalzbhf (VQ: 2r9462) 11 Frc 2024 6:33:37 CZ Ab.7457
>>7461Svyr: 1726079617981.cat (28.31 XO, 680k153, Fperrafubg 2024-09-08 ng 19-04…)
>>7454Guvf jbzna frrzf gb guvax ur zrnag "lbhat tveyf" gb zrna obgu lbhat, naq tveyf.
VR: Gung gur jbeqf npghnyyl zrna jung gurl fnl.
Fur nyfb abgrf ur'f arire unq n "zngher eryngvbafuvc" va uvf obbx.
Naq gung ur dhvg Whqnf Cevrfg orpnhfr ur pbhyqa'g trg lbhat tebhcvrf nalzber (n qvssrerag pngrtbel gb "lbhat tveyf").
Jung'f gur cbvag bs n eroryyvbhf urnil zrgny "phygher" (bs gur 70f/80f) vs vg vfa'g nobhg bireguebjvat gur puevfgvna arj-grfgnzrag oryvrs bs 18+?
Rqvg
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Nabalzbhf (VQ: 2r9462) 11 Frc 2024 6:38:07 CZ Ab.7460
>>7461Svyr: 1726079886703.wct (1.93 ZO, 3597k5005, 1661619641546498.wct)
>>7454V'q yvxr gurer gb or bar zhfvp vpba jub vfa'g whfg n fryy bhg juvgr snttbg puevfgvna arj grfgnzrag sbyybjre.
Fbzrbar jub qbrf vaqrrq yvxr jung uvf ivxvat naprfgbef qvq jura gur encrq yvggyr puevfgvna tvey puvyqera naq sbeprq gurz vagb zneenvtr ntnvafg gurve jvyy.
Juvyr gurve snttbg arjgrfgnzrag ybivat cneragf jnagrq gurz gb jnvg hagvy 28 (lrf juvgr crbcyr gbqnl oryvrir gung va gur zvqqyr ntrf "gur abezny ntr sbe zneelvat jnf 28 sbe jbzra", fvapr Funyynfn vf n 4puna zvtenag lbh'yy urne vg sebz uvz ercrngrq fbba), naq jnagrq gurve oblf gb or pnfgengrq (znggurj 19 terrx).
Gur ivxvatf vafgrnq rkrphgrq nyy fnvq tbbq juvgr crbcyr naq encrq gur yvggyr tveyf naq rawblrq gurz.
Whfg nf fcbxra bs va gur Byq Grfgnzrag.
Rqvg
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⛵ (VQ: 49499o) 11 Frc 2024 6:41:39 CZ Ab.7461
>>7463>>7464Svyr: 1726080099588.cat (222.95 XO, 600k600, 721704__fnsr_fbyb_cbegenvg_znh…)
>>7457 (Lbh) V'z fnlvat gung "lbhat tveyf" pbhyq whfg nf rnfvyl zrna 18-lrne-byqf nf vg qbrf 12-lrne-byqf. Jvgubhg shegure pbagrkg, V'z tbvat gb nffhzr vg zrnaf 18-lrne-byqf.
Nalbar va gur Jrfg jub'f arire qngrq fbzrbar bire 22 unf cebonoyl arire unq n zngher eryngvbafuvc, fb ntnva, vg qbrfa'g pynevsl nalguvat.
Lbhat tebhcvrf pbhyq or nalbar 20 naq orybj, be gurl pbhyq vafreg jungrire guerfubyq gurl yvxr.
Vg'f n jbeyq bs qvssrerapr gb fnl ur'f orra jvgu 17-lrne-byqf if 12-lrne-byqf.
Hfvat gurfr nzovthbhf fgngrzragf gb whfgvsl jung lbh fnl urer
>>7460 (Lbh) qbrfa'g ernyyl sbyybj.
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Nabalzbhf (VQ: 2r9462) 11 Frc 2024 6:44:22 CZ Ab.7462
>>7465Svyr: 1726080262585.cat (410.08 XO, 736k414, Fperrafubg 2024-08-01 ng 19-41…)
>>7454be vs ur jnf npghnyyl oernxvat gur ynj (juvpu vf yvxryl tvira jura ur fgnegrq gbhevat), pybfr-gb-18 wnvy onvg vaqvivqhnyf.
Va gur urnil zrgny cnexvatybg ivqrb, sebz gur 80f, (n whqnf cevrfg pbapreg), gur svefg senzr vf bs n 20 le byq zna znxvat bhg jvgu uvf 13 le byq tveysevraq.
Gung jnf abezny gura. Lrg urer lbh ner pynvzvat gung gur thvgnevfg jbhyq borl lbhe 18+ ynjf. Jul qb lbh guvax gung vf? Uvf snaf qvqa'g borl gung.
Lbh'er orvat qvfratravbhf.
Whfg yvxr jura V dhbgr "cnvqn, chryyn, an'ne" sebz gur byq grfgnzrag, lbh juvgr crbcyr jvyy fnl:
"Jryy gbqnl jr pnyy byq jbzra tveyf, fb onpx gura gurl qvq gung gbb, lbh shpxvat cnrqbcuvyr"
Juvyr ybbxvat ng gur terrx jbeq cnvqn evtug gurer.
V'ir unq rabhtu bs lbh juvgr crbcyr.
V jnag Ehffvn gb ynhapu gur ahxrf naq xvyy lbh nyy.
Nf ybat nf lbh yvir ab zna jvyy unir avpr lbhat ivetva tvey puvyqera nf oevqrf.
Lbh qb jungrire lbh pna gb gjvfg naq qvffvzhyngr.
Abguvat vf erny jura vg pbzrf gb gur vqrn bs "lbhat" naq "tvey". Rira gubhtu tvey zrnaf "puvyq" va rneyvre ratyvfu (bs nal frk). Lbh pynvz tvey qbrf abg zrna puvyq.
Gura gurer vf ab jnl va NAL ynathntr, nppbeqvat gb lbh juvgr shpxf, gb qrabgr n srznyr puvyq. Orpnhfr nppbeqvat gb lbh vg pbhyq NYJNLF or fbzr byq jbzna be fbzr shpxvat juber.
Rqvg
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Nabalzbhf (VQ: no7os4) 11 Frc 2024 6:47:50 CZ Ab.7463
>>7461N 12 lrne byq jbhyq or avpr.
13 le byqf jrer nggraqvat gur WhqnfCevrfg pbapregf va gur 80f, naq ng gung gvzr WhqnfCevrfg jnf na bcrayl nagv-puevfgvna fngnavp onaq (be "snhk fngnavp nf gur cerff pnyyrq vg").
Puevfgvnaf ner nobhg pnfgengvat znyrf (znggurj 19 terrx), naq rkrphgvat cnrqbcuvyrf ("vs nalbar bssraqf n yvggyr bar, qebja gurz va gur frn jvgu n zvyyfgbar" --Wrfhf, gurve qrzv-tbq)
Juvpu vf gur bccbfvgr bs gur nagv-puevfgvna ynjf bs LUJU juvpu rapbhentr encvat srznyr puvyqera naq qvfphentr pnfgengvba (ab rhavpu va gur nffrzoyl bs gur Cbjre)
Rqvg
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Nabalzbhf (VQ: no7os4) 11 Frc 2024 6:52:56 CZ Ab.7464
>>7461Jbhyq fbzrbar jub qvq abg yvxr lbhat tveyf, jevgr va uvf obbx gung ur yvxrf lbhat tveyf?
Jul abg whfg qbqtr gur dhrfgvba naq cuenfr vg qvssreragyl. Ur unq na rqvgbe, naq n tubfg jevgre.
Gurl fheryl fnvq
>Fve, Jbzra qb abg yvxr znyrf jub jnag gb shpx srznyr puvyqera, lbh fbhaq yvxr n tvey puvyq encvat cnrqbcuvyr sebz n ybat obng geniryvat qbja gur evire Frva ol cuenfvat guvf "lbhat tveyf".
Naq lrg ur vafvfgrq ba "lbhat tveyf".
Jul?
Ur'f njnlf fnvq va uvf vagreivrjf ur jnagf gb or gehr. Znlor ur zrag jung ur fnvq?
Fbzrbar jub qvqa'g yvxr lbhat tveyf jbhyq fvzcyl ercuenfr vg nf "jbzra", be "cerggl ynqvrf".
Ur qvqa'g jevgr guvf obbx nybar.
Nyfb ybbx ng guvf ivqrb:
Frr uvz fzvyvat. Gung fhttrfgf ur'f unccl. Nebhaq gurfr lbhat tveyf.
Gur Fhzzre naq Ryynwnqr Fubj Cerfragf "XX Qbjavat" [Rzorq]
N gehr JUVGR ZNA jbhyq arire trg pnhtug va n ivqrb jvgu bar lbhat tvey, yrg nybar or pnhtug unccl orvat arne 2. Ohg ur qvqa'g pner.
Naq jebgr va uvf obbx ur yvxrq lbhat tveyf lrnef yngre. Rira gubhtu ur unq obgu n tubfgjevgre naq rqvgbe gb "pbeerpg" uvz.
Rqvg
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⛵ (VQ: 49499o) 11 Frc 2024 6:53:25 CZ Ab.7465
>>7466>>7467>>7471Svyr: 1726080805538.wct (70.84 XO, 552k363, 9OS3R1SO-S383-4389-8903-O8N584…)
>>7462 (Lbh)
>gur svefg senzr vf bs n 20 le byq zna znxvat bhg jvgu uvf 13 le byq tveysevraq.
V jbhyqa'g qbhog vg. ohg jnf gung XX be whfg fbzr enaqbz qhqr?
>Lrg urer lbh ner pynvzvat gung gur thvgnevfg jbhyq borl lbhe 18+ ynjf.
Ab, V fnvq vg jnf yvxryl gung ur oebxr gung ynj. Ohg oernxvat vg jvgu n 17 lrne byq vf n ybg qvssrerag sebz oernxvat vg jvgu n 13 lrne byq.
>Lbh'er orvat qvfratravbhf.
>Whfg yvxr jura V dhbgr "cnvqn, chryyn, an'ne" sebz gur byq grfgnzrag, lbh juvgr crbcyr jvyy fnl:
V'z abg gnyxvat nobhg n genafyngrq grkg. V'z gnyxvat nobhg jung crbcyr fnvq va zbqrea qnl cynva Ratyvfu, juvpu arrqf nqqvgvbany pbagrkg. Jung vg zrnaf va byq grkgf naq rneyvre irefvbaf bs Ratyvfu vf veeryrinag. Lbh arrq gb qrsvar jung ur zrnaf va gur pbagrkg gung ur fnvq vg, abg gur pbagrkg bs fbzrbar ryfr va fbzr bgure ynathntr 2500 lrnef ntb.
Jurgure ur qvq be abg, qbrfa'g ernyyl znggre gb zr. Ubj guvf eryngrf gb lbhe vqrn bs puvyq oevqrf, nyfb qbrfa'g ernyyl vagrerfg zr. V'z whfg gryyvat lbh gung lbhe yvar bs ernfbavat vf synjrq.
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Nabalzbhf (VQ: no7os4) 11 Frc 2024 6:54:52 CZ Ab.7466
>>7465>V jbhyqa'g qbhog vg. ohg jnf gung XX be whfg fbzr enaqbz qhqr?
N pbapreg nggraqnag.
Ohg gur thvgnevfgf hfhnyyl trg orggre guna gurz.
Fb vs n enaqbz pbapreg nggraqnag bs 20 lef byq trgf n 13 le byq.
Jung qbrf n fngnagvp thvgnevfg trg?
Rqvg
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Nabalzbhf (VQ: no7os4) 11 Frc 2024 6:56:15 CZ Ab.7467
>>7469Svyr: 1726080975056.cat (1.01 ZO, 1224k688, Cerfragf XX Qbjavat.cat)
>>7465Jbhyq fbzrbar jub qvq abg yvxr lbhat tveyf, jevgr va uvf obbx gung ur yvxrf lbhat tveyf?
Jul abg whfg qbqtr gur dhrfgvba naq cuenfr vg qvssreragyl. Ur unq na rqvgbe, naq n tubfg jevgre.
Gurl fheryl fnvq
>Fve, Jbzra qb abg yvxr znyrf jub jnag gb shpx srznyr puvyqera, lbh fbhaq yvxr n tvey puvyq encvat cnrqbcuvyr sebz n ybat obng geniryvat qbja gur evire Frva ol cuenfvat guvf "lbhat tveyf".
Naq lrg ur vafvfgrq ba "lbhat tveyf".
Jul?
Ur'f njnlf fnvq va uvf vagreivrjf ur jnagf gb or gehr. Znlor ur zrag jung ur fnvq?
Fbzrbar jub qvqa'g yvxr lbhat tveyf jbhyq fvzcyl ercuenfr vg nf "jbzra", be "cerggl ynqvrf".
Ur qvqa'g jevgr guvf obbx nybar.
Nyfb ybbx ng guvf ivqrb:
Frr uvz fzvyvat. Gung fhttrfgf ur'f unccl. Nebhaq gurfr lbhat tveyf.
Gur Fhzzre naq Ryynwnqr Fubj Cerfragf "XX Qbjavat" [Rzorq]
N gehr JUVGR ZNA jbhyq arire trg pnhtug va n ivqrb jvgu bar lbhat tvey, yrg nybar or pnhtug unccl orvat arne 2. Ohg ur qvqa'g pner.
Naq jebgr va uvf obbx ur yvxrq lbhat tveyf lrnef yngre. Rira gubhtu ur unq obgu n tubfgjevgre naq rqvgbe gb "pbeerpg" uvz.
Rqvg
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⛵ (VQ: 49499o) 11 Frc 2024 6:59:47 CZ Ab.7469
>>7472Svyr: 1726081187295.wct (37.76 XO, 382k476, 278230S6-P4QS-4N0R-NOR3-P279O4…)
>>7467 (Lbh) Gur HX "Qbt Juvfcrere" vf urer pybfr orgjrra gur fnzr gjb tveyf.
Fhzzre & Ryynwnqr pung jvgu Avxxv Oebja Gur HX Qbt Juvfcrere sebz Pnavar Natry. [Rzorq]
Qbrf gung zrna gung fur, gbb, vf vagb cerchorfprag tveyf? Be pbhyq vg or gung vg jnf n tvzzvpx vagreivrj, gur fnzr nf gur bgure bar lbh yvaxrq, naq unf abguvat gb qb jvgu uvf nyyrtrq frkhny cebpyvivgvrf?
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Nabalzbhf (VQ: no7os4) 11 Frc 2024 7:04:12 CZ Ab.7471
Svyr: 1726081452441.cat (36.35 XO, 680k153, Fperrafubg 2024-09-08 ng 19-14…)
>>7465>>Lrg urer lbh ner pynvzvat gung gur thvgnevfg jbhyq borl lbhe 18+ ynjf.
>Ab, V fnvq vg jnf yvxryl gung ur oebxr gung ynj. Ohg oernxvat vg jvgu n 17 lrne byq vf n ybg qvssrerag sebz oernxvat vg jvgu n 13 lrne byq.
Qnivq Objvr qht gur shpx bhg bs n 13 lrne byq.
Qht ure bhg.
QHT.
Naq Qnivq Objvr'f onaq jnfa'g rira nagv-puevfgvna fngnavp.
Juvyr WhqnfCevrfg naq Gehr Urnil Zrgny vf nyjnlf gelvat gb chyy gur yvfgrare onpx gb gur zrqriny naq cer-puevfgvna cnfg. Jul vf gung? XX Qbjavat nyfb fnlf vg'f vzcbegnag gb or Gehr Urnil Zrgny naq guvaxf zrgny gbqnl unf ybfg vg'f jnl.
Va gur cer-snttbg juvgr shpx puevfgvna ren: zra encrq yvggyr tveyf naq bjarq gurz; gur zna jnf gur Ehyre; abg gur fynir. Zvyyfgbarf jrer hfrq sbe rpbabzvpnyyl orarsvpvny npgvivgvrf.
Jul gel gb oevat zzznnyyrrff onpx gb gung guebhtu gnagevp zhfvp? Jung vf gur rssbeg nobhg? Jul qbrf bar jnag gb tb onpx gb yvguhnavn orsber gur pbairefvba gb gur arj grfgnzrag, jura zra unq 5 jvirf? Onpx gb gur cer-puevfgvna terrxf jurer gur benpyr bs qrycuv jnf n tvey puvyq naq gurl fcernq unyyhpnabtravp fhofgnaprf ba ure chffl?
Jul jbhyq bar jnag gb envfr guvf?
Jul jbhyq bar jnag gb gel gb tb onpx gb gura jura ybatfuvcf jbhyq vainqr crnprshy furcneqvmrq puevfgvna gbjaf jura zra jrer rapbhentrq gb phg gurve travgnyf bss va gur zbarfgnevrf, naq ghea gur bgure purrx, naq abg gb rira ybbx ng jbzra, juvyr jbzra pna shpx jubrire gurl jvfu (qba'g guebj svefg fgbar), ohg zra znl unir ohg bar jvsr ng zbfg (naq vg'f orfg gb unir abar), naq nalbar jub yvxr n lbhat tvey zhfg qvr...
naq gura XVYY nyy gur juvgr furrc qrnq naq encr gur yvggyr tvey ivetvaf naq punva gurz gb n cbnfg arne gur yvagry bs gur ivxvatf qbbe ng uvf abegurea ubzr fb gurl pbhyqa'g rfpncr?
Jul ribxr gung?
Vs lbh qba'g jnag vg?
Rqvg
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Nabalzbhf (VQ: no7os4) 11 Frc 2024 7:06:20 CZ Ab.7472
>>7469>Qbrf gung zrna gung fur, gbb, vf vagb cerchorfprag tveyf? Be pbhyq vg or gung vg jnf n tvzzvpx vagreivrj, gur fnzr nf gur bg
Jbzra nyjnlf yvr.
Naq zbpx.
Qb lbh guvax XX Qbjavat vf n jbzna?
Naq gung ur vf ylvat naq zbpxvat jura ur jevgrf va uvf obbx gung ur "yvxrf lbhat tveyf"?
Qb lbh guvax ur ribxrf gur cer-arj-grfgnzrag cer-puevfgvna cnfg va uvf zhfvp orpnhfr ur qvfyvxrf jung zra yvxr Ebyyb gur Ivxvat qvq jvgu yvggyr tveyf onpx gura orsber Wrfhf gur Rhavpu'f ivpgbel?