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Batman v Superman as Allegory

Name: Anonymous 2016-03-28 11:55

...and the Concerted Effort by the Media to Discourage Open Discussion About It

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Normally movie reviews are not /prog/ material but Batman v Superman has been essentially misunderstood by many normies. It has been miscast as yet another capeshit cash grab when I think there is a much deeper allegorical meaning to the film that has been missed by almost everyone except the tribe owned critics who have been on a rampage trying to destroy the film’s reputation before most people have even seen it.

The reviews of Batman v Superman have been mixed. The score given by reviewers is around 30% lower from reviewers than regular viewers on metacritic. There seems to have been a massive effort across all forms of social media to write disparaging remarks about the movie, trying to convince people not to see it. Whenever there is such a concerted effort to destroy the reputation of a piece of entertainment before it comes out it is either because it is terrible, in which case the user reviews should match the critic's reviews, or because the values represented in it do not match those of the narrative that the powerful groups that control western media wish to be portrayed. Having watched the film last night I believe that in the case of Batman v Superman, the reason for its low scores from critics is the latter. Even if the movie makes money, they still want to stop positive public discussion of the film by associating it with stupidity and banality so all those who still tie their personalities in with virtue signalling will be afraid to dissect the movie too much even if they liked it...

Name: Anonymous 2016-03-28 11:56

Each major character in this movie is a metaphor of one of the major players in the western world right now.

Batman: represents the alt-right and realists. Harbouring too much rage at the inequities and pain caused by utopian thought and actions (represented by superman) to think straight and fighting cultural marxism with tactics too aggressive for the average person to accept. For all his strength, his pain causes him to be reactionary, fighting the symptoms instead of addressing the cause of the illness. He represents the cruelty, the harsh emotional edge that so many of us on the chans have adopted. Alfred explains this when he says, "That's how it starts. The fever, the rage, the feeling of powerlessness that turns good men.. cruel." Allowing the pain of powerlessness to harden our hearts and leave us without the very empathy and trust that made the West great in the first place has left us with a thirst for cruelty. It has also left us childless and with an unhealthy obsession with and sadness for those destroyed by the evils allowed to run rampant by the idealists and the tribe.

Wonder Woman: History of the West and women's attitudes towards modern men. She left us after the first World War’s end in 1918, relegating herself to a life of comfort while attempting to erase evidence of the violent glory of her past. She has left the world of men behind, no longer at their side, no longer supporting them, maintaining a cogent remembrance of the nobility that once was; a living relic of the West's greatness. She comes to the side of the West's men again only when she sees that the realists and the idealists have put aside their differences, realizing that they've been tricked into fighting each other by the tribe (lex luthor), and turn their fury and hurt at the abomination he's created.

Superman: the ideal man westerners strive to be, flawed in his perfection, impossible and utopian. The manifestation of pathological altruism which can't help but intervene in situations he sees as wrong even when his help causes more peoples' lives to be ruined than saved. Superman represents the aspiration to overcome human nature so we can live in peace and harmony, free from pain and fear. A beautiful utopian dream that in reality does both good and harm.

Lois Lane: The intellectuals and clergy who foster, support and maintain the ideal man concept. They believe that if the average man is given something to strive for, some platonic ideal of himself to try and become, then he will act in a way that is more beneficial to himself and others. Ignoring reality to protect it at all costs. They are optimistic and yet have slightly dead eyes due to their investment in something that is not based in reality.

Lex Luthor: the tribe. Intelligent, insane, rich, hates his fellow man, has been hurt in the past by those which allowed him to come to power (his dad beat him). He pits the two sides of western culture against each other, the idealists and the realists all the while creating a monster which has the power to destroy them both. His hate and spite stem from his need not only for power but for others to have none (knowledge without power is paradoxical). Physically weak and riddled with mental problems and emotional scars, he sees his only chance for safety in a world where it is impossible for anyone with real strength to thrive. He is very clearly ethnically Jewish but has the long blonde hair of a western man, showing that he hides his true nature in the image of his foe to blend in.

Doomsday: Cultural Marxism and its products. The remnants of a dead super power turned into a monster of even more horrifying power through horrible alchemy/science and the addition of the tribe's own blood (ideology). With critical theory as the sword, political correctness as the shield, and no nation or political structure to attack or embargo in response to its horrors, cultural marxism grows stronger with every attack. It sees every bombardment as an attack against the goodness of equality that it will enforce with terrible deadly force, growing in strength and ugliness with every bombardment thrown at it. For just like the ideal man, it is not based in reality.

Name: Anonymous 2016-03-28 12:00

VIPTIP: This isn't /prog/

Name: Anonymous 2016-03-28 12:01

Spoilers below.

The first part of the movie is filled with portrayals of the two major players: Batman and Superman. Batman is fighting his one man war, becoming increasingly isolated from and emotionally taciturn to even those who are close to him (Alfred). While trying to get information on a weapon to defeat superman, Batman runs into a competitor. While he doesn’t know his mysterious competitor’s identity yet, Batman is on the path of discovering it is Lex Luthor and that his involvement is also tied to some of the great evils in the world. Throughout this conflict he is also constantly distracted by Superman, whose battles seem to cause even more damage and loss of life than when he sees from Lex. Bruce begins to retreat further and further into his alter ego, justifying more and more extreme actions against those he has to fight to get information on his hidden enemy. Superman meanwhile is trying to figure out his place in the world. Attempting to save his mate (white women) seems to only draw the ire of the public (mostly from minorities and politicians) while his character is constantly assaulted by those who were hurt on the periphery of his actions. Superman is trying to do his best, he is trying to make the world better and you can see his confusion mounting as the more he tries to help, the more he is thrown to the wolves. Clark begins to have a crisis of character and thinks that maybe he should retreat from the public eye and that his ability to help was just the dream of his rural farmer father. Clark then distracts himself from all of these problems by throwing himself into the story about the batman. The violent vigilantism that Batman exhibits, flies in the face of the soft hand that Clark’s pathological altruism demands.

The movie progresses and the cognitive dissonance in both Batman and Superman worsen. Batman on the path to becoming a monster to fight an alien force while seeing himself as the last best hope of mankind and Superman fighting the only other person who is trying to stem the tide of corruption while at the same time thinking his actions might be too destructive to continue helping people.

Following the trail of Luthor’s illusive shadow operations, Batman eventually finds out that the name of the person he’s been going after has been a ship name, a ship carrying the only sufficiently large quantity of kryptonite to hurt Superman on it. He chases down the truck carrying the package, causing wanton destruction on his way with a religious fervor in his eyes, knowing any sacrifice will be justified to stop the inhuman menace of Superman. Just as the Batmobile closes in on the damaged truck, Superman appears and Batman crashes. Superman rips off the lid of the Batmobile, showing that all his training, strength and technical expertise means nothing in the face of power. Superman tells him that the next time the bat signal shines, he [batman] shouldn’t go to it and to consider this intervention mercy. Batman asks if Superman bleeds. Superman responds by smirking and flies away. Batman, looking up says, “you will.”

While Batman and Superman are fighting, Lex Luthor has been corrupting, bribing and persuading government forces to give him everything he wants. This boils down to the body of General Zod and unfettered access to the remains of the Kryptionian ship which still lie at the heart of Metropolis. Lex gets access to the representations of Marxism and the secrets of the power and influence of the failed Soviet state and immediately turns to controlling and further perverting these destructive forces which at least had a cause into tools of complete and total mindless destruction. Batman steals the large chunk of kryptonite from Lex’s headquarters which causes him to ramp up his plans.

Name: Anonymous 2016-03-28 12:02

>>3
I know it's /lounge/, but there's always that faggot that posts on /lounge/ that the thread topic isn't about programming.

Name: Anonymous 2016-03-28 12:06

Superman goes to a hearing in Washington D.C. about whether or not his future interventions should continue to be allowed much less lauded. A senator who has been blocking Lex’s plans to a certain degree is holding the hearing and a guy who lost his legs and family in Zod’s attack on New York and has been getting groomed by Lex is there in a fancy wheelchair filled with explosives. In the last moment before the bomb goes off, the Senator figures out what’s happening and gets scared, Superman sees it in her eyes and looks at the guy in the wheelchair realizing something is amiss. Then the bomb goes off vaporizing everyone except Superman, this is the straw that broke the camel’s back in his demoralization. Batman however doesn’t see Superman as yet another victim in the destructive loss of life however as Lex has been carefully feeding him lies to stoke the fire of his hate. Batman has a dream about a post-apocalyptic world where Superman has created a totalitarian regime where any power and freedom aside from his own is met with trickery, traps and finally lethal force. He sees parademons (Darkseid’s minions) and a vision from the future alluding to something nasty being on its way. This cements Bruce’s resolve to finally destroy Superman so he sets about using every ounce of his cunning and intelligence to create a trap for his superpower opponent.

Batman's heart is too hard to see anything but evil at the heart of something that stems from a lie made powerful. Even with his inferior strength, his technical application of carefully acquired knowledge allows him to weaken the impossible ideal man enough to hurt him (kryptonite gas). The ideal man recoups his strength quickly after each attack, burnished with the certainty of his own virtue, but no matter how much he hurts the realist, the realist will not sit down because he would rather die first. So Superman's strength eventually wanes enough for Batman to get him into a position of weakness. Batman, with his boot on Superman's neck and the spear of his enemy's demise clutched in his hand cut Superman's cheek, exposing the falsehood of his invulnerability once and for all. He poises to strike dead the one who has been interrupting his moral mission to stop the tribe. Looking down with hate for the now mortal man. The fake ostentatious mendacity of this phony! He must be destroyed for the good of all!

Batman, fully ready to kill the utopian lie that has been staying his hand from fighting degeneracy, stops his killing blow when Clark says, "you're letting them kill Martha." In this moment Superman has disappeared and all that is left is Clark Kent, the average man who is attempting to be the ideal man, hurt and betrayed with his loved ones and his past in jeopardy. Bruce Wayne looks down, half his mask torn away and his voice modulator no longer functioning and asks, "why did you say that name?” Clark and Bruce's mothers have the same name. Remembering the pain of the death of his own past and loved ones. In Clark's mind there's still hope for revival, still hope for those he loves, still a chance to bring back what for Bruce has been so long dead. Bruce sees Clark for the first time as he is, the morality of the average man behind a super power. Even in his misguided ignorant and innocent way, Clark had been trying to protect and save his people and his past the whole time. This is the same goal bruce has had. Bruce sees that Clark, scarred for the first time and with the false pretense of his moral high ground stripped away, in pain and at his mercy. He sees not his enemy any longer, but his brother. One brother wearing the costume of the grim dark truth of reality, the other wearing the costume of the hope for becoming an impossible utopian ideal. They have always had the common ground of fighting against corrupting forces. Truth without empathy will never gain the following of anyone other than the disenfranchised and have a hard time completing the tasks it knows are objectively beneficial, empathy without truth will be powerful but easily misguided and have a hard time knowing what is objectively beneficial. Once they crash into each other hard enough, these two reactionary ideologies become infused with a bit of the other. They stay separate but unite in purpose like the yin yang.

Name: Anonymous 2016-03-28 12:08

Bruce goes off to help Clark’s mother Martha which allows him the freedom to go confront Lex and ultimately Doomsday. The fight scene in which Superman fights Doomsday culminates with Superman hitting him into space and the normies nuke them both in an attempt to save themselves by destroying both ideological metaphors. Doomsday plummets back to earth while Superman stays in space to be re-energized by the power of the sun which represents hope (the source of life). Meanwhile, Batman is left alone to face Doomsday and is faring poorly. Just as he’s about to be destroyed, Wonder Woman shows up and protects him. The Greek Philosophers and Western Women of the past: noble, caring and powerful as she is fickle comes to the aid of the disillusioned Western man at the final moment as he is ready to sacrifice himself in the face of certain destruction. He has come out of the shadows and proven himself worthy of her help. Superman shows up and both he and Batman express confusion and surprise thinking that Wonder Woman had been helping the other the whole time. They are coming to realize that neither of them had enough of her respect to garner involvement alone but their struggle together brought her out of hibernation and now together they have a chance to prevail over their impossible foe.

Impossibility, this common tie between the perfection of the ideal man (Superman) and the equality of cultural marxism (Doomsday), is of course the only force great enough to destroy them. And the only ones with the strength to push this truth into the heart of the monster that levels all playing fields through the destruction of anyone with life and power enough in them to draw its attention, is the ideal man. He must take his own weakness as a weapon and thrust it into the heart of his dark malformed cousin. Once a lie has accumulated so much clout that it can silence the truth, only another equally powerful lie can destroy it. Doing this will cause the destruction of them both as once the reality of their fallaciousness is exposed to the light, they will dissipate like a vampire in sunlight.

Superman, cradled in the arms of Lois Lane, lie dead at the feet of Batman and Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman looks down and away, knowing if she had come back to help the men of the West sooner this may not have happened while Batman looks at Wonder Woman, seeing that for the first time in a long time, she has come back to them. Lex Luthor is shown in jail where his head is shaved and he is put in an orange jumpsuit. All the trappings of wealth gone along with his facade of being a Western man, his true nature as a weak, insane and rage filled Jewish psychopath is finally out in the open for all to see. Batman shows up in prison planning to brand lex with the bat symbol (a death sentence) but stops short when Lex reveals that he gained knowledge from the Kryptonian ship’s archives of a great evil that is coming from space. This message about evil from space and the parademons in Batman’s dream seem to indicate that Darkseid going to be the villain in Justice League. Since Darkseid’s main goal is conquering the galaxy to create peace through control by removing all free will, Justice League will tackle the idea of valuing multiple great powers existing for the average man to aspire to. Valuing nationalism over the hegemony of homogeneity.

They hold a military funeral for Superman, batman says he failed him while he was alive but won’t fail him in death. They fundamentally misunderstood each other and fought each other when realism and idealism are two sides of the coin of the success of the West. The camera settles on his casket, the dirt on it begins to rise indicating his imminent resurrection. The ideal man that we strive to be can never die completely. The hope for something better, something impossibly good in this harsh world, will always come back and as long as its purpose is caringly guided by those too disillusioned to be tricked into corruption, this will only empower the truth.

Think about Batman v Superman in these terms and it will not only make sense as an allegory for modern times and its power players but you'll be able to understand why so many tribe owned members of the media have rated it so poorly.

Name: Anonymous 2016-03-30 23:35

This isn't cringe, I agree with this and I'm a dude. I personally identify as a nerd. I dress quirkily but have style and color coordination, I can socialize without being totally awkward, I have friends, we are a clique and not "friends out of desperation". I like to party, and am decent looking, I work out, and I have sex regularly.. But yes, I wear glasses, and I do like to read quite a bit. I reddit, I play PS4 plenty, I write poetry and attend poetry readings. I'll do cosplay occasionally and will be perfectly fine playing chess on a Friday night now and then. I embrace all of this. I'm a total NERD, and in my own nerdy way, I like to think I'm sort of cool.

Geeks are NOT nerds and they give us nerds a bad name. Geeks are losers, they can't dress, they have bad hygiene, they have like 150 facebook friends and half of them are acquaintances, they're often obese, uncoordinated, and get really passionate and overexcited about unimportant details like if so-and-so is directing such-and-such movie. These are true geeks. They aren't nerds, and please for the love of the flying spaghetti monster stop conflating these terms. Thank you.

/rant

Name: Anonymous 2016-03-31 5:45

OH, WHAT AN ALLEGORY!

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