Official Hooktube Thread

Since every other discussion seems to be getting derailed with Hooktube/Anti-hooktube flaming. So type away! I'll start:

Anti-hooktubers, why don't you like Hooktube? Are you incredulous to the legitimacy of such a project? Or do you think it's unethical? Or are you frustrated that there are people using Hooktube and not looking for a true, viable alternative to YouTube?

>>120
But it makes me wonder about the radical, hyperbolic leftists (and right wingers) who are loose with facts that are willing to bully even people with partisan leanings similar to their own if they're too moderate. I know saying this may sound weird, but don't you think that they of all people would be equipped to see past that facade? Or do you think the no-virtue-signalling, a-partisan policy is enough to protect from that kind of backlash? Keep in mind that said backlash doesn't have to affect the site directly, just its prospective userbase.

>>121
It's fine as long as the sites make sure to keep entryist infiltrators away from them on an institutional level. Failing that, if worse comes to worst, fork the site.

Send your complaints in here.

>>123
No thank you. I would rather derail legitimate discussion than discuss things politely in this thread.

It's down.

>>125
Activate it.

>>126
Okay.

>>125
It's back up.

>>124
Of course. You guys have been that way since day one.

>>128
That's because I activated it, as per >>126's request.

I've personally been very passive about my Hooktube spamming, only doing so when I share a video link, which was in turn very seldomly. Of course, in light of recent developments, although it's really fucking stupid since the url's are basically identical, I'll just share both links to satisfy every asshole, all of whom I hate for ruining one of the few things in this material world I liked. I literally predicted how the flagrant Hooktube spamming would eventually elicit the negative interpretation of someone under the pretense of spam or some other malicious motive, which in turn led to negative reaction. But nobody listened to me.

>>131
You are the only one that is butthurt.

>>132
says the eternal butthurt spamming anus

>>132,133
To be fair, I was kind of butthurt. I did try to argue with you more than once, before I realized it couldn't be helped. Let's just hope this is a lesson learned for when something more significant than Hooktube crops up, although somehow I doubt it.

there will never be a viable alternative to YouTube that's not also run by some giant advertising company. serving videos is outrageously expensive. the only way to even hope to break even is to deliver ads in-house and also use pre-existing infrastructure of server farms around the world.

IPFS or otherwise P2P methods would not work either. it would take hours to years to load a shitty 30 second video, and at that point why not forget the whole interface and just share bittorrent files.

there would have to be some serious advances in infrastructure at the hardware level. if a 1TB/s up/down connection would cost $50/month, then videos, in addition to everything else, could be fully distributed. that doesn't seem likely to happen soon though.

>>135
Maybe Advanced Compression Algorithms would work? Like on Silicon Valley except an actual thing.

>>135
Didn't you already say that? In this thread, even. Why are you repeating yourself? Wasn't it already established that there would never be a competing YouTube alternative if it were to follow similar means?

Also, not to sound condescending, but you don't understand how p2p works, clearly. It's just another protocol alongside http. Among instances where a bittorrent file has the same infrastructure and resources as a popular www site (such as Slackware's torrents of their installation mediums), speeds are not only equivocal to that of a http download, but faster and more efficient in low-bandwidth scenarios. Why? Because that's the whole reason why bittorrent was fucking made. With the advent of The Pirate Bay, there are bittorrent clients that will literally stream while the video is downloading, because there are so many peers, who seed at a capacity even larger than by conventional means. This stereotype that bittorrent is slow only exists because of ghetto torrents on public trackers with two or three shitty seeders. Among torrents that actually use bittorrent for what it's meant to be used for, large binary files, and who actually distribute legitimate non-copyrighted files that large numbers of people actually care about, like Canonical's Ubuntu, bittorrent is blatantly superior. And guess what p2p network is built on bittorrent? That's right: ipfs. The only thing hindering ipfs and many of these distributed (note, I didn't say decentralized, like with Tor) networks is popularity. My point isn't that all the links on ipfs, even in an ideal world, would be perfectly seeded; my point is that bittorrent and ipfs thereby have the theoretical capacity not only to be a viable alternative to our modern internet but vastly better.

And shame on you for generalizing p2p the way you are. Protocols like i2p are vastly different, than, say freenet. Not only in the sense that they provide different means by different implementations, but they have different directions and are solutions for oftentimes completely different ends.

>>135
I should probably follow that up. The whole point of p2p is that you don't need to rely on one rich, heavy-infrastructure entity like Alphabet in order to supply a means of distributing data. Nor is p2p made up of exclusively private citizens with tiny computers and American-tier bandwidth. There are plenty of corporate entities that use p2p, and all you would really need, theoretically, in order to serve videos to all the same people that YouTube does would be a few semi-relevant businesses to pool in a fraction of their resources.

>>136
Are you retarded?

>>137

speeds are not only equivocal to that of a http download, but faster and more efficient in low-bandwidth scenarios

the enthusiasm people have for seeding important files wouldn't translate to YouTube type videos. lots of people are interested in Slackware ISOs. not so many people might be interested in Nikita's vlog spoken in Ukranian.

>>140
But Nikita himself could seed the video. Beyond that, services, nonprofit or paid, could seed on his behalf.

>>141
Seeding is for schmucks, especially in torrenting
My ratio is always 0.01 Edited on 31/12/2017 12:31.

>>141
Seeding is for schmucks, especially in torrenting
My ration is always 0.01
My ratio is always 0.01

>>142

God will punish you.

>>142
Unless you're using i2p, in which seeding helps obfuscate your identity.

>>140
You don't need enterprise-tier support to seed the 2.5 people who'll Nikita's retarded blog in the entirety of its existence seamlessly. Nikita himself seeding the video notwithstanding, a project as small as Vid.me could carry more than enough of the slack.

>>145
vid.me is dead asshole

>>146
No need to be a rude lout about it.

>>145
What does that prove?

>>146
That literally doesn't change anything.

Welp, the kikes at YouTube finally killed it. This is hot right off of from HookTube's changelog:

• rest in pieces
• It was a good run, 1.5 years. Started as a quickly made addition to the norbot project, and within long the server had to be upgraded several times. Of course YouTube Legal was an inevitability at that point.
• Special thanks to the many people who created plugins and extensions for hooktube, /g/, the five people who donated anonymously, and BitChute for working hard on a real YouTube alternative. HookTube will remain operational in the present state for those who only needed it for performance reasons. See you in the next project.

This is why Nasim Aghdam did absolutely nothing wrong. YouTube's headquarters needs to be shot up again, and this time make sure to take out the kikess (((Susan Wojcicki))) this time. Looks like it's back to using the original

youtube-dl

for me.

Is this the end of hooktube?

>>150
Why didn't you just always use youtube-dl? Players like mpv can stream with it so there is almost no reason to use a website for it. Last I checked mpv struggled with livestreams a bit, but that was it. I'll be honest, I never got the point of Hooktube.

>>150
Good riddance