Return Styles: Pseud0ch, Terminal, Valhalla, NES, Geocities, Blue Moon. Entire thread

Intel license violation

Name: Anonymous 2017-12-13 10:20

https://www.ipwatchdog.com/2017/12/02/supplying-legal-notices-free-software/id=90395/
A little while ago, Tanenbaum wrote a memo bragging smuggly about how his software and its permissive nature lent itself to the agenda of industry giant Intel. That isn't something we haven't heard before; lots of copycenter ``open source" advocates value the flexible quality of such copycenter licenses as MIT, Apache, and the multiple, distinct BSD licenses in existence.

We often don't see the same issue with copycenter as we do with copyleft licenses such as GPL3 where corporations will try to conceal the fact that they're using copyleft code, in part because it's easier for licenses like the LGPL and MIT to coexist with proprietary code. Their argument is logical and actually reasonable from a certain perspective, but this case is special, because, in spite of how few restrictions that came with Minix3, Intel still selfishly decided to abuse those freedoms by not providing the notices required by the license. This is a slightly ironic issue, because the notices would obviously not nullify the injustices done by distributing the Management Engine, but it just illustrates the naivite that open sores proponents push, that free software can coexist with proprietary entities, whose sole interest, most of the time, is just pleasing their shareholders. This admittedly minor issue punctures a huge hole in their agenda.

The GPL ``virus" is such because it's not an altruistic license. It's the exact opposite of altruistic: the GPL is incredibly pessimistic, despite what the GNU manifesto might have you believe. It's a license born out of historically justifiable distrust towards proprietary software entities who want nothing more but to alienate programmers from eachother and turn a profit thereby. In the realm of penetration testing--``cyber security"--it's widely accepted that any flaw or exploit no matter how infinitesimally small it might be becomes a practical inevitability when a piece of software is deployed among thousands of machines and used a million times a day. When a power structure is such that there's incentive for one entity to abuse another, it becomes an inevitability, not just a possibility. Wozniak-types like that of the open sores community believe in altruism and benevolent dictatorship. I don't doubt the viability of such a relationship, nor do I pretend like such a symbiosis hasn't happened in the past--it's good to keep an open mind, but don't be so open-minded that your brain falls out when you rest your head.

Name: /prog/ 2017-12-13 10:22

/prog/

Name: Anonymous 2017-12-13 10:27

>>2
This is an ethical issue, not a programming one.

Name: Anonymous 2017-12-13 11:00

>>3
Take it to /anarchy/ then.

Name: Anonymous 2017-12-13 11:02

>>4
That makes no sense.

Name: Anonymous 2017-12-13 13:58

>>3
So you say threads about biology are more /prog/ than threads about licenses? You disgust me.

Name: Anonymous 2017-12-13 16:41

>>6
That makes no sense, either.

Name: Anonymous 2017-12-13 20:38

Intel license
didn't read

Name: Anonymous 2017-12-14 3:41

didn't read
Stopped reading there.

Name: Anonymous 2017-12-14 8:53

>>10
How do you know that Minix was licensed under a free software license to Intel?
You clearly didn't read Tanenbaum's memo.
Minix owners.
By which you mean Tanenbaum. Stop asking uninformed questions. Just because you're playing skeptic doesn't mean you're right. You're just making yourself more annoying to all of us, including people with your opinion.

Name: Anonymous 2017-12-15 3:36

>>12
It's not a guess, it's fucking obvious fact. I shouldn't have to explain how gravity works in order to have a discussion about cooking apples. Of course I'm going to broach a discussion on the premise that rape is bad, that the Earth is fucking round. "Have you ever seen the Earth in its entirety to justify that statement?" Holy fucking hell, you are full of shit. Do you sincerely not realize how stupid you sound? Do you think you're smart for not reading the article? For expecting us to spoonfed you to their semantic, tautological fundaments in order to be persuaded? I think you're fucking forgetting that the point of a discussion is to benefit each other, not to fucking win, you selfish asshole. You stupid, autistic imbecile.

Name: Anonymous 2017-12-15 3:40

>>14
Y-you don't know that! I'm smart, and you're dumb! It's not that I was being lazy and ignorant, I was being skeptical! You don't know that rape is bad! You don't know that gravity exists! You can't expect me to do basic research before I open my mouth!!!

Name: Anonymous 2017-12-15 3:46

>>12
It's ironic that you would lecture me on ``hard facts" while shamelessly ignoring that I explicitly proved the two premises in your argument as blatant lies. I'm calling you a fucking retard for making up bullshit. I'm calling your bullshit bullshit because its fucking bullshit. It seems to me that you're the one who needs to be lectured on upholding facts, considering how eagerly you're willing to ignore them just to win an argument.

Name: Anonymous 2017-12-15 6:29

>>16
I'm seeing a whole lot of 'if's in your post. An if is like a maybe: slippery and usually preceding unverified assertions, ergo unwelcome in a serious paragraph.

Name: Anonymous 2017-12-15 7:53

>>16
I don't care about winning arguments.
Yet you're responding to me.
All I want is to be clear in the premise and the connecting facts.
But you conveniently ignored the facts right in front of you, even going so far as to not even read the article.
In this thread, the facts I want to establish is regarding Intel's distribution of Minix.
But you were too lazy to read the linked article. Or do your own research before making your own baseless accusations.
If Intel failed to follow the responsibilities of the Minix distribution rights, then Intel has committed a massive case of commercial copyright infringement.
Good job. You literally rehashed this entire thread while making yourself look like a giant hypocrite. When you write a post, do you ever just take a second to reflect on the discussion you had? Do you ever just take a second to consider the possibility that your post is fucking retarded? That you've got your head up your ass? That you're blatantly stupid?

Name: Anonymous 2017-12-15 21:42

violate my license

Newer Posts
Don't change these.
Name: Email:
Entire Thread Thread List