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How similar was 2017 to 2009, politically, in USA?

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-24 5:33

Resisters were bitching about Trump being a Russian agent and acting really gay in 2017, but was the tea party and their gay bitching about Obama being a Muslim foreigner just as prevalent in 2009? Is there any difference at all between the two scenarios?

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-24 5:53

Very different, the whole socio-political climate changes somewhere in 2011-2012. Slang, vocabulary, internet,etc.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-24 9:56

In 2009, people would disagree with each other without trying to get each other fired or doxxed. But now, politics is a more dangerous game. Violent protests/riots, people getting extremely polarized, etc.

It's not the same at all.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-24 13:40

There weren't 20 flavors of Pravda saying how wonderful the tea party was.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-24 14:02

The Virgin 2009 Internet vs Chad's 2018 Internet Warzone

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-24 16:42

Is there any difference at all between the two scenarios?
The first one some ridiculous boomers larping as revolutionaries(just like Qanon shit) and the second is some weimar level confrontation on every medium, with censorship, propoganda and street battles.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-24 23:40

I don't know. For me, being from Europe, I had a totally different understanding of US politics. The 2016 elections were one big lesson in US politics and global politics. Before the 2016 elections I didn't know something like Breitbart. I didn't like Foxnews, now I like Foxnews. Before the 2016 elections I didn't like Trump. I considered myself left wing. I was anti-guns. Now I am from the right, pro-guns. Before the 2016 elections I was anti-free speech. Now I am a supporter of free speech. Before the 2016 elections I was a supporter of communism. And now I am totally against it.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-25 8:50

in 1958 the soviets sent Laika, a stray dog plucked from the streets of Moscow, into orbit around the earth. strapped into a small compartment on the tiny spacecraft Sputnik 2, Laika died during her fourth orbit when her capsule overheated. the Americans responded with the same panic that met the launch of Sputnik 1. Eisenhower ordered the Naval Research Laboratory -- which had separately been working for years on launching an artificial satellite into space -- to immediately prepare a manned spaceflight. in January 1958 America finally responded to the Soviets' scientific aggression by launching a Vanguard rocket from Cape Canaveral, Florida containing two stray dogs.

these dogs died an icy death within an hour of leaving the atmosphere when their cabin depressurized. they were hailed as national heroes, and became a massive propaganda coup for NATO. behind the iron curtain VOA broadcasts let anyone with a radio know that capitalists were more efficient at killing dogs in space than communists.

Khrushchev was livid. he ordered his scientists to embark on what became known as the Luna program. on the second day of 1959 Luna 1 was launched towards the moon with 17 dogs from the streets of Vienna, three of which were pregnant, aboard. the dogs all perished by the time the craft reached the Van Allen belt.

NASA, which had been created the previous summer, embarked on Project Mercury, which blasted a succession of angry cats with their tails tied together into deep space. the Soviets responded with the Vostok program, which sent horses into orbit strapped into medical devices that would periodically revive them so that a single horse could be killed theoretically dozens of times.

in the 1960s the space race turned to a new goal: to be the first nation to kill a dog on the moon. the americans suffered a massive setback in 1967 when a test of the Apollo 1 capsule resulted in three dogs dying in an electrical fire on earth, not in space. but in 1969 the lunar module of Apollo 11 landed on the surface of the moon. before a global audience of nearly 1 billion people the door of the Eagle opened and the three dogs perished within minutes.

the Soviets had been bested, but in 1971 they achieved another scientific breakthrough when they established the Salyut 1 space station, which embodied man's ultimate ambition of creating a self-contained environment in space where generations of dogs could be bred and killed. after the fall of the USSR scientists from Russia, the US, and other countries worked together to build the International Space Station. this year is the 20th anniversary of the launch of the ISS, which to this day remains functioning in orbit with a fully staffed kill shelter that only services pit bulls as a monument not only to the science of space exploration but to harmony among men on earth.

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