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Name: Admin 2013-09-02 17:29

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If I set up a fossil repository when I switch server, is that fine?

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-06 20:10

>>120
Well, it's not like it's completely unreadable, but having a post header begin
right under the preceding post's last line is a little annoying.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-06 20:15

>>121
I see what you mean. Happens in links too. I'll look into it.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-06 21:59

I added an SSL certificate:

https://bbs.progrider.org/

SHA1 fingerprint: D6:5D:E6:FE:28:C5:1B:F4:65:D7:54:23:ED:F7:22:3A:60:C6:B8:BF

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-07 0:15

>>123
Thanks, it checks.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-07 1:51

>>125
I wasn't the one who spammed the board this morning.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-07 6:44

>>123
Thank you! I love you!

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 20:43

Why am I seeing two text boxes now?

Name: sage 2013-09-08 20:46

>>128
What? It's fine on here?

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 20:48

>>128
You're drunk again, Suika.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 20:53

>>129,130
http://i.imgur.com/gtUN3j0.png
Entering anything in the first box seems to always get my post rejected as spam.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 20:57

>>131
That's really strange... I haven't modified anything at all as far as the HTML goes.

It's probably something Tabletcat put in as a simple automated (crawler bot) spam prevention.

The first field is named "comment", but the one that actually takes the comment is named "other". "comment" is hidden by CSS rules, it seems, and it shows in links since links doesn't read CSS files.

Why Windows?

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 21:12

>>131
It looks like your web browser does not support CSS. Use the lower text area, name="other".

<form action="/prog/post.pl" method="post" id="form1378150158" onsubmit="set_cookie(name.value)">
<input type="hidden" name="noko" value="on">
<input type="hidden" name="thread" value="1378150158">
<table>
<tr>
<td>Name: <input type="text" name="name">
<label><input type="checkbox" name="sage"> Don't bump</label>
<input type="submit" value="Preview" name="preview">
<input type="submit" value="Reply">
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<textarea name="comment" class="comment"></textarea> <!-- IGNORE THIS ONE -->
<textarea name="other" rows="5" cols="64"></textarea>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
If you IP address is blacklisted, ask admin-sama to whitelist it.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 21:12

>>132
Makes sense. Should have taken a look at the source before posting.

I don't have a need for anything else at the moment; Windows works just fine for my (relatively simple for /prog/) computing needs.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 21:15

>>132,Admin
Be careful, he may be a spammer. If you look at the image closely, he has firefox just fine on the background.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 21:18

>>134
Always view the source of your pages. Never allow anything to be downloaded from another server, and never run scripts, unless you can read them (including understand). The default behavior of most browsers ignore XSS, something that is still a serious issue today.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 21:20

>>135
Just because he has Firefox in the background doesn't mean he's a spammer. Sometimes I use links even if I've got FF open to browse certain sites because it's quicker / more convenient.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 21:25

>>137
I do the same, all the time. Why I am telling you to be careful.
I would have assumed already a fault in CSS or functionality on my browser before posting, then viewed the source to confirm my suspicions, since I am using a textbrowser. If >>131 work with textbrowsers, he should have known it by now.

Lynx user for 20 years!

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 21:47

>>135
You mean Chrome.
>>134
Yes, the fact that NoScript/Scriptsafe/etc. are only available as browser add-ons is, in my opinion, extremely disconcerting. It places far too much trust in web site owners/developers. And while I understand the sentiment, avoiding all scripts that you can't read or understand is incredibly strict and impractical on today's internet. Whenever I can I will simply avoid sites who use shitty tactics like hiding content behind scripts hosted on advertising servers, but whitelisting scripts from googleusercontent.com or amazonaws.com is necessary to access many otherwise-benign sites.
>>137
Absolutely. There are many use scenarios for text-only browsers (I'm using Lynx, btw).

Name: 138 2013-09-08 22:09

>>139
You use spyware 29.0.1547.66‽

At least you understand why I hate the web SO MUCH, and how evilincompetent companies have become. AH GOD, DO NOT REMIND ME OF THOSE JS EVANGELISTS WITH THEIR PREACHING OF THE NEW WEB 5000.0. Googlamozone are an evil company, and you should ignore them.

Oh god, why, why is opera clinging to WebSpykit?

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 22:10

>>140
I thought Opera used Presto as its engine?

Also, Chromium is fine as a browser. Chrome less so.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 22:18

>>141
I guess you have not read the news since 7 months. You must be busy as hell:
http://business.opera.com/press/releases/general/opera-gears-up-at-300-million-users

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 22:22

>>142
I see. Just looked it up on the wiki. I had not heard about this at all.

Well, I don't work as a web developer or anything even remotely related to websites so I don't care about any of this nonsense, really. The browser I use hasn't been updated in like four years.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 22:30

>>143
Hehehe. I worked as both, a sysadmin and webdev. I hate it, I hate it. No one even heard of USENET or what they really need, gopher; no one. Sigh. When will companies stop investing in worserer is bestest. I hope soon, before people loose all confidence in everything. Sigh. At the least this song is calming me down:
https://youtu.be/BDhg1snT8Ic?t=52m25s
It's all turning shit. Serious shit. What was that statistic, that only 4 companies in the USA own all the US cables.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 22:39

>>144
I've also worked as both a sysadmin and a web developer, but it's been a long time since I've done either of those. These days I get to use C. My sysadmin knowledge stays with me purely because I own a few different servers / VPS' with different OS and that I use Linux as my main OS, as well as sort of needing it here and there when I need to set stuff up for projects, either personal or for work.

Things probably won't get better. I don't care too much, though. I'm mostly isolated from the developments in the software world as a whole. If worse comes to worse we can always just write our own OS to run on shitty hacked-together hardware. It's not like a terminal, compiler, text editor, and cli browser take that many resources to run properly.

Cute song. C82 is great.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 22:55

>>140,141
I used to use Firefox, but about six months ago it started making my system hang and I couldn't figure out why or how to fix it. I decided it was time to give Chrome a shot. Haven't had any major issues so far. As far as being spyware, everything that phones home to Google can be turned off. Besides, Google can do enough passive tracking on enough web users that A. Even if their knowledge of any particular user is otherwise nil it only takes a few discrete data points to draw a relatively accurate picture of that user, and B. they give zero shits that their web browser data-collection tool has an off button, as the 0.1% of users that turn it off are all pretty much the same, anyway.

I just wish there were more options that just FF, Chrome/Chromium, and Opera. None of them are particularly good.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 23:04

>>146
There aren't any more options because building a browser is a clusterfuck that no sane person would put themselves through. Pretty much all browsers either use WebKit or Gecko nowdays. The rendering / layout engine is basically the entire browser.

Unless someone comes up with a new one I don't really see much variety popping up.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 23:10

I use FreeBSD primarily, and Debian for naggers.

But at the least open schematics hardware is finally surfacing, with optional integrated wifi capable of IEEE 802.11s and IEEE 802.15. The blimp LTE & WiMax idea is wonderful. I hope it gets implemented, even though there is huge lobbying against it, and legal reprocessing for (fly zone height and all).

The song I fetched while looking for the Touhou MIDI songs, then found a playlist, and that was one of the songs. Still, not one did I enjoy enough to keep (extremely picky). The only one I am debating to keep is this one:
https://youtu.be/gWn61o_LVOQ
OP's avatar is priceless.

Name: 148 2013-09-08 23:35

HOLY HELL, this guy is awesome:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQLaKGD90o0&feature=c4-overview&list=UUkTbVSCaseyQkTodLuPO2Cg

wow, just wow

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-08 23:49

When are you implementing hellbans?

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 0:10

>>150
The mere idea of implementing hellbans creeps the hell out of me for some reason I don't know very clearly.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 0:11

>>131
Is that your own /prog/ reader, or just some random text web browser?

>>148
That song is Terrible! in a good way.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 0:13

>>150
In an anonymous BBS, were no user are made, it would be impossible to adopt hellbanning. Especially since we know about proxies.

Name: sage 2013-09-09 0:37

>>131
Windows? IHBT.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 1:22

Yeah, hellbans are essentially impossible to be fully implemented on any site that doesn't require a log-in.
>>152
Lynx for Win32: http://www.fdisk.com/doslynx/wlynx/lynx_w32.2.8.3dev.17.zip
>>154
I didn't know I was so good; I wasn't even trying.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 5:04

>>151
I once thought about implementing a bbs/forum/whatever where everybody was hellbanned in such a way that every day your IP/username/whatever got assigned to a random pool, and you could only see the posts made within that pool, with some exceptions. It's been part of my quest to implement true forgetfulness for the internet, because the idea is that it would inure users to the idea that information on the site is transient, and some of it would come and go.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 6:11

>>156
That sounds annoying. It would be hard to maintain any sort of conversation when posts randomly appear and disappear as time goes on.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 8:27

>>157
Well, the idea was that it would be at the thread level, not the individual post level. And I wanted to have some sort of extra preservation for if you actually replied to a thread - it would stay around... longer? More frequently?

But yeah, it would be a pain in the neck, and if you really cared you could either run a scraper or join in a merge cluster that would trivially defeat it.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 11:14

>>158
Sort of reminds me of the anonymous IRC concept where you only receive messages if you actually speak on the network, and you can't see who is there or not, it always looks like one user is in the channel even if multiple nicks speak.

Name: Anonymous 2013-09-09 11:49

>>159
That concept has been implemented way too many times.
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