>>46Look. I believe you are quite proficient and enthusiastic about the LISPs.
And what constitutes a good language, by ideal, you probably make a very good judge.
I like C due to its machinerealism. It is what has enabled it to become the most ported language, with the most ported software. It is not a mistake.
I like that C offers control structures and a reasonabel memorymodel. I feel like C is very intuitive and I feel the same way about Assembly language.
It's intermediate level (not low, not high) is a *necessity* to achive machine independency. You think undefined behavior is a mistake, I think it is reality.
And in the case were we like to take advantage of uncommon (not as in rare, but as in peculiarity) machine features we merely extend a program with something like e.g. intel_aesni.S, intel_rdrand.S, while the rest is plain C.
I realized this discussion is actually older than both C and LISP. This is no different from the rationalism v. realism in continental philosophy. If you demand me a longer answer I will return with one. But I don't think it is of any use (and I lost interest).