/prog/ - Web development

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-03 14:07

I want to do something like Jennifer Dewalt but I don't know shit about HTML or CSS or Javascript or whatever. Can you point me to the right direction /prog/?

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-03 14:59

Who?

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-03 16:07

Read SICP.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-03 21:46

All she did was 180 drawings on a page. That's all.
If she used document generators, she could have done each in an hour, totaling 12 days. Time waster

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-03 21:49

>>4
15 in 12 hour days, 22.5 in 8hr.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-04 6:29

http://jenniferdewalt.com/picture_pen/pictures

I laughed.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-04 10:05

>>4
To be fair, she had zero coding experience and probably don't know much shit about computers much less doc generators. For a noob, that's a hundred times more effort and dedication poured into something than you ever put into your projects (that probably don't even exist).

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-04 10:29

Back to Hacker Jews, ``please''.

Name: le underage sage 2013-10-04 10:51

>>4,7
What do you mean by doc generator? That's what a web page is, a computer program that generates an html document.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-04 12:37

>>9
Then a generator generator. You know what he means, don't be a retard.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-04 13:45

>>7
Yeah, I was amazed at how lame everything was until I realized it was a learning tool. As that, it's actually kind of impressive. Not that doing one of those sites would be that hard, but that she'd keep at it.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-04 19:38

>>7
Fair in what aspect? If you value effort over quality, you are bound to get shitty produce. The only value you can see from her work is dedication, not technical merit; which is what >>1 is asking how to do.

So >>1, put some heart into it, >>7,10 is rooting for you.
We had this topic in the past, AND there's ton of resources online you can search. >>4 gave you a hint on how you can excel.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-04 23:43

Start with Codeschool. No joking. Then learn how to use Github if you don't already know. If you already know how to make programs, learning and using Javascript the right way won't be difficult for you. There is literally no good SATORI alternatives to the technologies that rockstar web developers use for their flat, minimalistic and colorful HTML5/CSS3 websites. Unless of course /prog/ proves me wrong give richer and better alternatives to Ruby on Rails, FOIC, PHP, Javascript, etc..

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-05 0:41

>>13
The best alternative is the one that doesn't involve using the current WWW.

W3C, Javashit and Jewgle are truly the cancer of the Internet, almost like an antiSATORI.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-05 1:49

>>14
Goyim can't write search engines.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-05 4:42

penis penis penis

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-05 5:06

>>14

Just like C, you can't replace WWW anytime soon.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-05 6:02

>>17
says you

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-05 8:54

>>17
C is not that bad, though.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-05 12:49

>>19

But it is.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-05 19:22

What is it that makes people cling to 40+ year old languages?

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-05 19:29

>>21
You mean like Lisp?

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-05 20:35

>>20,21
Fags, burn at the stake.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-05 20:41

>>21
What is it that makes people cling to this?
*grabs dick*

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-05 20:58

>>24
WOW SO FUNNY
WHAT A COOL UNIQUE ORIGINAL FUNNY JOKE
WOW

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-05 22:30

>>25
It's about as unique as ``lisp are old and a shit'' but takes far less effort to type. Sorry you don't understand my incredibly cerebral and postmodern posting style.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-05 23:42

What is it that makes people *grabs dick*?

>>25 is a gigantic faggot.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-05 23:44

>>25
To make your irony sound real, it should have ween worded like this:
Oh LOL xD That's SO FUNNY.
LOOK AT THIS GUY, I HAVEN'T HEARD JOKES LIKE THAT IN A LONG TIME.
HAHAHAHA, LOL.
*Chokes laughing*

>>26
Older, before math was even a thing *grabs stick* Bzzzt

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-06 3:34

Ouija boards.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-06 4:48

>>21
That's it. Because they're old and popular. They had lots of code written for them and ENTERPRISE is too slow to adapt to new technologies because upgrading costs millions. That explains a lot of COBOL in banks in the 21st century. And C is popular because UNIX is popular. Lisp didn't die despite not having a lot of adoption because it was popular in Wizard circles and sometimes even make great teaching language. People who try to delve into Lisps become obssessed with it. It'l like brainwash.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-06 16:51

>>21
So what if a mother language is old? Shouldn't we take advantage of its feature-full succinct syntax? The English language is 463 years old, and people still use it. If they would have kept and upgraded Latin, we would have a much better Italian. But who is using that? If we go by your logic, everyone should be speaking in Tok Pisin.

>>30
Like Anime and Sweets, anyone can develop obsessions over something that exhibits value of high quality. The problem is that it becomes addicting if untrained in constraint.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-06 20:06

>>31

Except despite getting a cult following, Lisp doesn't get any adoption anywhere at all. And it's being slowly replaced in academia by Haskell and Python

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-06 20:46

There isn't that much difference in any way between a 40 year old language and a recently created one in 2013.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-06 20:48

>>32
Questionable. Even though Haskell might get a hold in big projects because of its safety, it's impossible to cap Lisp in ease of teaching, simplicity (Brainfuck need not apply), expressiveness and extensibility. Fanboys of the snake like to believe otherwise and repeatedly quote the MIT's decision to change their intro course, but if you read the reasoning behind that switch, FIOC was only chosen because it had the necessary libraries they were looking for at that point in time. Actually, that's its only redeeming point — libraries, most of which are effectively C wrappers and the results of this toxic ``embed everything in a scripting language instead of doing so vice versa'' mindset plaguing its community.

The day Lisp is completely replaced in academia is the day academia goes down the drain.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-06 21:13

[i]``embed everything in a scripting language instead of doing so vice versa''[/i]

What do you mean exactly?

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-06 21:18

>>35
There are scripting languages that try to be supplementary to other programs, and there are scripting languages that try to write (often sub-par) wrappers around absolutely everything in existence. According to my observations, Python definitely falls into the latter category, and combined with this ``there is only one way to do it'' garbage, it results in a mess of bad wrappers nobody really wants to replace because the community actively discourages people to build an alternative.

Python could be so nice, weren't it for that stupid mantra.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-06 21:38

>>36
I personally don't see anything wrong with the wrap-around-absolutely-everything mindset. If the wrappers are written for a language that lets you get crap done faster, why not? Also, it's a big relief when you see one of your favorite C libraries being available for use in a language you're forced to use for school or job.

Not that I encourage this mindset and recommend it as the one true mindset (it has brought us some cancer indeed), but it can be a life saver.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-06 21:49

>>37
I actually agree that it's not all bad, my posts were worded misleadingly. _{_{_{_{_{_{_{please don't hurt me}}}}}}} What I referred to with toxic was rather the combination of these two mindsets, resulting in numerous wrappers being written but none of the faulty ones getting fixed.

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-07 2:25

>>34

It hasn't already?

Name: Anonymous 2013-10-07 2:39

>>37
Stockholm victim, how sad.

BTW:
http://community.schemewiki.org/?scheme-faq-standards#H-7g4iir

Samples:
http://wiki.call-cc.org/eggref/4/easyffi
http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/
http://code.google.com/p/chibi-scheme/

Here is the reverse scenario:
http://www.swig.org/

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