A simple new web (HTTP, HTML, JS) replacement based on s-expressions and lisp. It would be useful for things like file hosting, wikipedia/wikis, BBSs, online newpapers/blogs, imageboards, youtube/mediagoblin style video sites.
Instead of XML we use s-exp for markup. It will be a very simple functional markup language that could be defined in a page or two. We will not allow it to grow and grow horribly like the W3C to the point that it's impossible to implement from scratch.
Instead of javascript we use a simple lisp language (similar to R5RS without continuations) which is interpreted with strict resource and permission bounds, so it will never do anything you do not allow it including swamping your computer down like current js JIT systems.
For servers, instead of tools similar to PHP we will use systems inspired by type-checking that are able to statically ensure that no vulnerabilities in the class of XSS/SQL injection/... exist.
1. A first draft design needs to be created.
2. It should be easy to get something up and running quite fast by writing a proxy that translates all this s-exp stuff into HTML - just for the purpose of prototyping.
3. Reference implementations from scratch - focus on low memory usage and stability (using safe languages instead of C or C++).
>>124 Not only that, but you need a full call/cc in order to implement let-values, let-values* and values.
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Anonymous2015-04-19 5:46
While you mentally masturbate to ideas of webbrowsers you could fork chromium and cut out the bullshit in few days and write some better interface/optimize the code/etc. Writing a "right thing" from scratch in "the right language" will take years and will be crippled in the future. Forking a real complete browser will take days, and its "worse is better", getting things done faster and you can steal features from the main branch directly.
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Anonymous2015-04-19 6:28
>>126 /g/ tried that, but they gave up after a few days.
you could fork chromium and cut out the bullshit in few days
I wish! I did consider this and looked into it a bit. It turns out you need a supercomputer to compile chromium.
Writing a "right thing" from scratch in "the right language" will take years and will be crippled in the future
gtfo with your "worse is better" garbage. People like you are why everything is awful.
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Anonymous2015-04-19 14:41
>>129 Browsers written in LITHP/Haskell/Etc 1. 2. 3.
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Anonymous2015-04-19 14:53
Shouldn't an average LISP genius create a browser from macros and duct tape in a day(according Paul Graham)? Why these oppressive imperative shitlords have the monopoly on browsers?
>>131 it's impossible today to write a web browser unless you are a world power like apple, microsoft, mozilla or google.
the whole point of >>1 is to create a new system to replace the web that CAN be implemented by a lisp wizard (or some dedicated folks in any other language on any platform)
The result of this is that users would have control of their own software and what their computers do.. sadly this is not whats happening today as evidenced by mozilla "pioneers of the open web" pushing DRM on everyone.
Nowhere in the OP says the new web browser needs to be used by every single nigger in the world. Having a web browser used by a handful of people who can actually use a computer should be enough for meeting OP's goal.