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Aligned/Unaligned meory access

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 1:39

Why do people on stackoverflow lie that unaligned accesses are slow? It was true in 90ies, when 486 was young. But modern CPUs have caches, so unaligned access won't produce more than one loads or stores. And if you use ARM, you're a moron.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 1:52

Is there a smartphone running x86?

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 1:54

Fuck off you intel, microsoft, C, anti-GC status quo shill.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 1:55

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 1:55

>>2
Who cares about idiotphones? The real test of value is being able to compete as a desktop, workstation, and supercomputer architecture.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 1:59

>>3
What's a "shill"? I remember "shill jobs" in the Thieves Guild in Skyrim, they were about planting false evidence in people's houses. So are /prog/ shillers the ones who post illegal stuff to make the government shut it down?

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 9:00

unaligned access my anus.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 9:13

x86 is shit, why are they pushing it to snortphones?

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 9:35

>>8
x86 is shit
if it x86 shit, why people keep using the last 30 years? x86 is older than anyone on prog

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 9:42

>>9
Because it's become the industry standard and for compatibility reasons it would cost more to modernize it than to keep using it. What I'm wondering is why they plan on pushing it to a whole new market when they could start with a fresh new better architecture.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 9:57

>>10
My anus is industry standard. It's been tested and proven true time and time again by every big player on the market.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 11:12

SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC! SPARC!

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 11:42

Who gives a shit about desktops anymore? That's a dying market.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 11:55

>>13
No it isn't.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 13:34

>>14
Sure, bury your head and just keep telling yourself that.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 15:22

>>12

Now you're talking, x86 crap doesn't even have error detection on the ALU and registers. It's like people don't give a shit about data integrity.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 15:25

>>16
I had once the ability to buy a SPARC workstation
but I chosed to be hipster and brought a cheap intel x86 instead

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 15:54

>>17

I used to have a couple old Suns that I got for free, a SPARCstation 5 and an Ultra 10, but I finally trashed them about a year ago along with an SGI Octane.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 16:23

>>15
Well, well, aren't you Mr. Smartypants.

Tell me, what else is even gonna come close to providing the power of a desktop?

Just because a few peasants start picking up ARMs with crippled restriction-laden operating systems, doesn't mean the desktop is dead. (Oh, I forgot, you peasants call them iPads)

Your inferior mind probably cannot comprehend the fact that desktops are needed and will still be needed in the future for almost everything that's of some computational importance.

Reason? Portable architectures and by extension, portable computers, are SHIT.

What are you going to replace the power of the desktop with? ARMs? Atom? x86-portable? PowerPC? Le cloud computing dumb terminals?

Don't care about processing power? Fine. Here's an ergonomics question. Go to any office, and replace all workstations with tablets. Try explaining to the employees that they now need to write their Project Reports on these things. Let's see how much work they get done at the end of the day. BTW, what was the last time you saw a tablet run a office suite that was not totally, completely objectively horrible?.

What was the last time you saw any CPU-intensive program being developed on a portable computer? Why not try developing a graphics heavy video-game on a laptop?

Better still, why not try designing your oh-so-lovable apps on a tablet, or even a laptop for that matter?

*

"Oh, look Mr. LeGee has a shiny new cloud-based infrastructure! I wish I had one too."

2 days later

"Did you hear? Mr. LeGee lost hundreds of hours of work done, not to mention his employee credentials, because his cloud provider crapped out? Poor fellow."

*

I laugh at your sorry uneducated ass.

Go back to whatever horrible cloud-ape-ing shithole you came from.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 16:36

>>19
I wish you were right, but you have too much faith in humanity. In the end it'll all just be clouds, gaming consoles and tablets. Having a full-sized personal workstation will be a sign of the elite, the kind of elite that steals plebs' data from the clouds and plays games with graphics that consoleplebs can only dream about.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 16:44

>>19
Wouldn't the employer be the cloud provider in your little scenario?

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 17:00

>>19
what was the last time you saw a tablet run a office suite that was not totally, completely objectively horrible?
What was the last time you saw an office suite that was not totally, completely objectively horrible?

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 17:05

>>19
It doesn't take all that much power to run ssh. And I do have both XCode and Android Studio installed on my laptop and they work just fine as long as I don't run too many debugging VMs at once and start swapping.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 17:07

>>22
The TE suite is rather nice.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 17:08

*TEX fuck

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 18:00

>>24
At ~1 GB it's more like Bloatware

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 18:53

>>26
What's a bot� lawr?

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 18:59

>>27

bloatware?

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 19:02

>>18

...along with an SGI Octane.
An artist? That is why prog quality is so artsy.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 19:05

>>1
And if you use ARM, you're a moron.

...or MIPS, or SPARC, or PowerPC in little endian mode, or...

The only languages where you need to think about alignment are C/C++, and there only when you're casting pointers. If you can't remember that then you are indeed a moron.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 19:24

What's with all these ``markets'' and ``industry'' people here? Like, who are you? I'm pretty sure you're posting from a desktop and I'm sure you should not be using windows or mac.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 19:39

>>30
FALSE!

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 20:12

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 20:16

>>31
I should be using your anus.

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 20:21

>>33
grrr

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 21:02

>>33
MUH ATHEISM
MUH SEPPLES

Name: Anonymous 2014-05-31 21:10

>>36
Where does it say that?

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