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Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 11:17

Sup /прог/, or /προγκ/. I wrote this CL code to help myself with learning russian (I'm greek). I want to learn some words but I don't want to write them in sequence because human memory works in funny ways. I don't want preconceptions.

Anyhow, while all this works fine in the slime repl, it goes FUBAR as soon as I save it in a file. What fucking encoding am I supposed to use? With utf-8 I get a bunch of Ξ\255's in the code and as output, and with utf-16 I get compilation errors.

lo and behold,

;; utf-16

(defparameter *ru-gr*
'(("комната" . "δωμάτιο") ; room
("окно" . "παράθυρο") ; window
("кот" . "γάτος") ; cat (male)
("кошка" . "γάτα") ; cat (female)
("буква" . "γράμμα (αλφαβήτου)") ; etc
("холодно" . "κάνει κρύο (επίρρημα)")
("плохо" . "άσχημα (επίρρημα)")
("погода" . "καιρός")
("когда" . "πότε")
("многа" . "πολύ")
("очень" . "πολύ")
("мало" . "λίγο")
("парк" . "πάρκο")
("брат" . "αδερφός")
("сестра" . "αδερφή")
("торт" . "τούρτα")
("рыба" . "ψάρι")
("карма" . "χάρτης")
("группа" . "γκρουπ")
("утро" . "πρωί")
("урок" . "μάθημα")
("подруга" . "φίλη")
("друг" . "φίλος")
("зуб" . "δόντι")
("зубы" . "δόντια")
("горат" . "πόλη")
("муха" . "μύγα")
("собака" . "σκύλος")
("завтра" . "αύριο")
("завтрак" . "πρωϊνό (φαγητό)")
("сын" . "γιος")
("сок" . "χυμός")
("суп" . "σούπα")
("сыр" . "τυρί")
("стол" . "τραπέζι")
("стул" . "καρέκλα")
("звук" . "ήχος")
("слово" . "λέξη")
("сумка" . "τσάντα")
("страна" . "χώρα")
("завод" . "εργοστάσιο")
("рассказ" . "διήγημα")
("автобус" . "λεωφορίο")))

(defparameter *gr-ru*
(mapcar (lambda (x)
(cons (cdr x) (car x)))
*ru-gr*))

(defun exclude (k n)
"Creates a list (0,...,k-1, k+1,...,n), excluding k from it"
(loop for i from 0 to n
when (/= i k)
collect i))

(defun scramble (list)
"Scrambles a list"
(scramble-help list '()))

(defun scramble-help (list acc)
(if list
(let* ((len (length list))
(index (if (= 1 len) 0 (random (1- len))))
(element (nth index list)))
(scramble-help
(mapcar (lambda (x)
(nth x list))
(exclude index (1- len)))
(cons element acc)))
acc))

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 11:21

I'm greek
No, you are not

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 11:32

Common Lishp is an ancient and deprecated language, use something more advanced and modern, like Haskell.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 11:34

Data.Text can handle Greek and Cyrillic symbols out of the box:

http://hackage.haskell.org/package/text-0.11.2.0/docs/Data-Text.html

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 11:39

>>3,4
Thanks. I originally wanted to use Haskell but I don't have an internet connection at home and I needed to use something more familiar.
I'll appreciate if anyone can answer >>1 for CL.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 11:41

>>5
but I don't have an internet connection at home
Stop living in a cave then

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 12:06

>>6
Stop insulting Greeks. Caves is all they have. All the even non-rocky ground is goat pasture. Living in a cave is the only way they can survive.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 12:40

>>7
I heard that they have λ-shaped homes made of marble

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 12:51

Greeks can't even remove kebabs from Cyprus.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 13:17

>>3,4
Can you post an example of writing `слова' uppercase? Also, printing it? I'm a real newb when it comes to Haskell and I don't feel like relearning it once again for this.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 13:26

>>10
{-# LANGUAGE OverloadedStrings #-}
import qualified Data.Text as T
import Data.Text (Text)

main = print $ T.toUpper "слова"

There are also encoding/decoding functions in Data.Text.Encoding:
http://hackage.haskell.org/package/text-1.1.1.3/docs/Data-Text-Encoding.html

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 13:39

>>9

But kebab tastes good, why should they remove it

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 14:15

>>12
Are you a slut for Turkish cock?

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 15:29

>>11

{-# LANGUAGE OverloadedStrings #-}
import Data.Text (Text)
import qualified Data.Text as T
import qualified Data.Text.IO as T

main = T.putStrLn $ T.toUpper "слова"

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 17:09

>>1
I am sorry I cannot be of any use, even thou I really hope I can help. IIRC, you have to handle text as data or binary, since CLOS is ANSI:
http://weitz.de/cl-unicode/
http://www.cliki.net/Unicode%20and%20Lisp
http://www.clisp.org/propaganda.html
http://common-lisp.net/~trittweiler/x3j13-char-proposal.pdf
http://common-lisp.net/project/trivial-utf-8/
http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/numbers-characters-and-strings.html#characters

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 17:21

>>1
Maybe this can help?
http://common-lisp.net/project/babel/

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 17:44

For fucking around with text use Perl.

Name: >>15,16 2014-06-29 17:51

>>17
Does Perl handle ελληνικά in UTF-8 and ру́сский язы́к in UTF-16 well?

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 18:37

Everything else than utf-24 is for niggers kebabs!

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 18:41

Why are there so many fucking third world shitskins around here? Why can't it all just be Americans as in citizens of the US of A. And modern greeks (shitskin mudslimes) have no biological or genuine culture relation to ancient Greeks (white mediterraneans)

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 18:43

because human memory works in funny ways
No, just yours. Stupid nigger.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 19:38

>>20
Remove burger!

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 19:49

>>22
4chan baby finally learned bbcode?

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 19:54

>>23
Why are you insulting me like this? Did I even do anything to you?

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 21:21

Difference between Greeks and Slavs:
- Slavs cleanse Turks, until NATO intervenes.
- Greeks are being cleansed by Turks, until NATO intervenes.

Greeks are pussies. No more noble Spartans.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 21:45

>>20
hello from the third world!

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 23:14

>>18
I know it works well for UTF8, using it right now to s/// ``translate'' some tabular data. Not sure about UTF16, but it should work fine too.

Name: >>24 2014-06-29 23:16

I am still waiting for you reply >>23-faggot

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-30 8:26

>>15
I think I'll just have a data file and use babel. Thanks a lot.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-30 8:33

>>11,14
Aha! Good. thanks.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-30 14:53

>>20
Because Americans are the shittest of the shit. Their only pastimes are eating junk food, watching monotonous TV series, swallowing loads of prescription pills that the pharmaceutical industry has brainwashed them into using, and watching idiotic sports shows like "the Superbowl". The average American cannot tell Chile from Delhi or a tangential from an integral, yet they boast about themselves being the master race that has a right to force their shitty "democracy" on everyone (especially the countries with oil reserves).

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-30 16:28

>>28
Ey's probably angry with you for removing ey's burger. Ey may have been hungry.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-30 16:36

>>31
The majority of american citizens supported the iraq invasion, but this changed quickly once it was discovered the ``smoking gun'' was bullshit. Please don't judge a people by the actions of its government. We have no control over it at this point. The only thing we are guilty of is being too pussy to protest in the streets and get run over by tanks.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-30 16:43

>>33
Every people has the government it deserves.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-30 16:54

>>33
Ooh, whatever happened to "democracy"? You have no control? NSA has its boot up your asses? And your shitty war "democratic" efforts have taken the Middle East to a new high in Islamism, militarism and terrorism? Well you should just pray to your gods of Two-Party Democracy and elect some more "minority presidents", that'll make everything better.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-30 17:01

>>34
That's ridiculous. It's like saying every cancer patient deserves cancer. Or every person assaulted by a gang deserves to be beaten.

>>35
America is not a democracy. People don't vote. Corporations do. No laws or actions come from people. They all come from lobbyists. The government and it's military is an arm extension provided for a powerful minority.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-30 17:05

It's like saying every cancer patient deserves cancer. Or every person assaulted by a gang deserves to be beaten.
But it isn't, he is totaly right

Anyway, don't you find it stupid to use the ``Don't bump'' for threads that are first?

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-30 17:12

>>37
You are fucking stupid. A military coup comes in and takes out a government and replaces it with its own and the people deserve this? A pack of wild lobbyists come in and continuously bribe every possible representative that could be voted in and we are responsible for our own loss of representation? Fuck you.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-30 17:14

>>38
You are responsible for how you respond to things that happen to you, even if the things that happen to you are very bad.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-30 17:18

>>38
Anger issues?
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