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This has gone on for far too long now

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-29 15:13

It's official, the appists and coders have gone gone too far.

http://runtimejs.org/

Now that you can run a horribly inefficient, buggy, and badly programmed operating system from right within your browser, imagine all the new possibilities for web-appist-coders!

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-02 10:38

>>40
Why are you quoting me?

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-02 16:05

>>41
Because you just responded to it, you are

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-02 18:32

>>42
Because you just responded to it, you are

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-03 4:50

>>1
Runtime.JS uses global non-blocking event loop to dispatch tasks for the whole system. Preemption is supported by design (and by V8), but haven't been implemented yet.

At least they're up front about their own irrelevance. I doubt it's intentional, though.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-03 8:10

>>39
You can go back to le imageboards now))))

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-04 0:51

>>12 is right.

REPENT C SINNERS

LEARN JavaScript, THE LAST PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE, BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-05 15:48

Ok, we need to make a serious campaign against ECMAScript.

We need to make a R7RS like language, Shen or this one I just looked up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EuLisp

But have a showcase of browser using it, and demonstrating why it is superior to ECMAScript in every way and form.

Who is with me?

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-05 17:23

>>47
Ok, we need to $UNREALISTIC_GOAL. (...) Who is with me?

If you had a couple million dollars lying around I think you could pull this off.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-05 18:29

>>48
Javascript started with Zero, just a Graduate. We just need push it.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-05 18:33

>>48
a couple million
Google has a lot more than that and they can't pull it off.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-05 18:34

Nobody cares what the underlying web language is, because it's already possible to write in Haskell and compile it down into Javashit.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-05 18:39

>>49
Javascript started with competition that did not yet exist, and made design compromises in order to get there first, and the price of those compromises still bites us in the ass on a daily basis 20 years later.

Your competition now is the most widely deployed programming language toolchain in the industry (yes, even more than C, because most people don't have compilers). Your would-be allies are four huge corporations with their own agendas and their own ideas for how to solve the problem.

You, my friend, are getting in a fistfight with a hurricane.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-05 20:28

>>52
Lies, both Lisp and Shell scripts existed in a browser that was implementable as a client side script.

The problem was Netscape had other plans, and offered as a bundle first for commoners. Basically forcing people to change.

Don't you want to be that change, or do you what JS to rot your applications?

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-05 21:07

>>53
You've convinced me. I want to force change. I will use the power of my multi-billion dollar company that makes one of the leading web browsers to force change on the world.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-05 21:20

>>52
You, my friend, are getting in a fistfight with a hurricane.
Worse than that, any allies you might have are savages who will devour you after the fight, if not during.

>>53
Don't you want to be that change, or do you what JS to rot your applications?
Personally, neither. I don't want the browser to be my platform. Besides, JS might be a shitty Scheme but at least it's not Python or Java.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-05 21:52

>>53

If Lisp is so good, why did it lost every single battle since 1958? First to Fortran, then to Algol, then to C, then to Java, now to JavaScript. It is fucking 56 years already!!!

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-05 21:53

>>56

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisp_%28programming_language%29
Dialects Arc, AutoLISP, Clojure, Common Lisp, Emacs Lisp, EuLisp, Franz Lisp, Interlisp, ISLISP, LeLisp, LFE, Maclisp, MDL, Newlisp, NIL, Picolisp, Portable Standard Lisp, Racket, Scheme, SKILL, Spice Lisp, T, XLISP, Zetalisp

That is why.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paradox_of_Choice

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-05 22:59

>>57
But only scheme and some rare static-typing lispies are useful

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-05 23:33

>>58
Javascript is useful and it is a Lisp (without all the messy parentheses but w/e).

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-06 0:04

>>59
You only troll yourself by being a low iq nigger.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-06 0:28

>>59
What's with all the horrendously bad trolling attempts lately? We have never been high in the rankings, but this is a new low.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-06 0:41

>>61
Prague is slow right now. The wizards are restless. They are huge assholes and everything bores them, so they're causing trouble.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-06 0:41

>>60-61
It may not even be trolling, many people really believe this

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-06 1:39

>>63
But these people aren't on /prog/.
at least that's what I tell myself in order to sleep well at night

Name: Naruto 2014-07-06 7:35

>>64
Believe it!

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-06 9:55

>>47
Why don't you just use a Lisp-to-ECMAScript transpiler like Parenscript or Sibilant. I thought writing your own implementation of Lisp atop something else was a rite of passage for Lisp weenies, anyway.

I've always felt that someone should have created a standardized bytecode virtual machine that could interact with the DOM and issue HTTP requests, but thanks to Sun this never happened and it's now too late to go back and make one.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-06 10:11

>>66
Look at the time it would have been made in and be glad; it would have become Java-style forced OO shit.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-06 12:52

>>67
But it's still shit: everything's mutable and there is no side effects control.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-07 3:48

>>67
The JVM is a bad example because it was clearly designed with only Java in mind. There is a lot you can do with just a JVM but a better example would probably be the CLR, since it was designed from the start with the intent to host more than just one language.

>>68
A language VM is at the wrong level to be enforcing these kinds of things.

Also, before someone says something to that effect - "Everyone just use language X" is not a solution. It's the same sort of thinking that gives us, "Everyone just use JavaScript". If you want to solve problems by mandating a language you should expect that the language that is chosen will be one you personally don't like.
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