/prog/ - uhuhuhuh — Tinychan BBS

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-12 19:20

Python and Java are great for enterprise software, which underlies thousands of mechanisms that subtly affect your daily life and allow you to post here!

Yes, let's use cardboard and soap bubbles (python and java) to build this bridge instead of steel and concrete (lisp and assembly)

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-12 20:26

Worse is better!

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-12 20:36

>>2
Worse is better means less features is a good thing as idiots like to think that more features are a good thing. Worse is better would equate to lisp and assembly and not python and java.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-12 21:18

Worse is better is worse is better.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-12 22:18

I posted that because it's both true and would make someone really mad. Do you really think LISP and assembly have anything to do with the invoicing systems that enable you to buy, say, food? Face it, you would starve to death and be killed by someone with more guns than you if all 'business logic' suddenly ceased to exists in 2014. It's the new oil.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-12 22:29

>>5

true

nope

The ignorance and idiocy of the people and systems that choose inferior tools instead of quality ones does not invalidate the quality and superiority of quality tools. You don't cite any evidence about what languages are used in whatever systems you speak of.

You don't understand how food or anything works really, business, anything, and so on. You don't know.

Face it, you would starve to death and be killed by someone with more guns than you

And you're also educated by Hollywood. Also don't understand how guns or fighting or warfare or survival or anything works.

'business logic'

Made up term. and also the use of ``logic'' sounds like a 4chan meme. You also ' ' instead of ` '. Yes business people and things are retarded and wrong and inferior. Their existence is of no matter.

It's the new oil.

What are you even talking about? Take your meds.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-12 22:36

>>6
How do guns and warfare work?

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-12 22:37

>>7
Why are you so fucking stupid?

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-12 22:43

>>8
Why do you refuse to share your knowledge?

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-12 23:05

>>9
Knowledge is a privilege.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-13 0:33

>>10

Admit your roal.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-13 0:44

>>11
Can we just get rid of this stupid kid already? It's clear that this little dumb bitch is underage and needs to retake english 101. Learn to spell you stupid dumb fucker.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-13 3:14

>>6
Whether you like it or not we have become dependent on these systems for everything and to suddenly remove them would cause tremendous losses.

You also seem to believe that using `quality' languages such as LISP and assembly would somehow result in better quality software, which is laughable. It has been shown that social aspects of a project are far more important.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-13 3:34

>>13
Saying "LISP" is the biggest faux pas you can make around expert programmers.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-13 4:08

>>12

Why are you so angry? Admit your roal.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-13 4:34

>>14
What about when Terry Davis says it?

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-13 5:20

>>13

we have become dependent on these systems

No we haven't.

for everything

Nope.

to suddenly remove them would cause tremendous losses.

Not really.

Who's ``we'' anyways?

using `quality' languages such as LISP and assembly would somehow result in better quality software

Yes that is objectively true.

It has been shown that social aspects of a project are far more important.

Wrong, incorrect, false, etc.

>>16
You're new here. I have your IP and you're fucked kiddo. nmap works wonders, ISPs have shit security, you're fucked.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-13 6:50

Since when is Lishp a "quality language"? U mena Haskell?

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-13 6:55

>>18
LISP is VIP Quality!

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-13 8:55

>>17

Nope.

I suppose if you live in the woods and grow your own food you could be an exception, but you would still likely require tools and materials provided by a sophisticated supply chain dependent on ENTERPRISE SOFTWARE.

Who's ``we'' anyways?

``We'' is anyone who lives in a reasonably developed country, which includes you if you're reading this.

Wrong, incorrect, false, etc.

I challenge you to find a single paper showing that language choice is a significant factor in project failure. You can find numerous case studies by searching for `software project failure' that show the primary causes are miscommunication and poorly managed risk.

LISP and assembly are not useful except as educational languages (assembly is used by a very small number of people for embedded development and interfacing to silicon in compiler development). I concede that Clojure can be useful to build a DSL to encode ENTERPRISE BUSINESS LOGIC, because it runs on the JVM and has access to useful libraries.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-13 11:19

>>20
Stop saying LISP.

You seem to be referring to ANSI Common Lisp so please say that. If you are refering to some other Lisp please use the full or accepted name of that Lisp (e.g. "Racket" or "ISLisp")

Ideally also name the implementation.

Saying LISP is very unhelpful, because it usually refers to domain (in the broad sense) specific Lisps (e.g. AutoLISP or XLISP or something like this).

Most of the Lisps usually understood by LISP are actually very poor Lisp languages.

Even in the 80s Lisps were given names that were spelled without capitals e.g. Zetalisp, Maclisp, Interlisp-D etc.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-13 11:24

>>21
I for one think that writing it as LISP is useful because it makes it look like one of those ancient obsolete languages from the time when computers couldn't write small letters (COBOL, FORTRAN, etc).

Name: LISP 2014-07-13 12:16

LISP

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-13 18:58

>>20
You're annoying, enjoy the rape.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-14 17:52

>>22

Actually it was written in small caps back then, which are still awesome.

ʟɪsᴘ

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-14 18:39

>>22
Cobol is still widely used regarding legacy in the industry (the actual industry, not your shitty python startups). And lisp and fortran are still regularly used by the industry (industry, not enterprise. think military, science, research/academia, serious things that matter and require an IQ above potato).

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-14 23:42

NIGGER

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-22 3:58

THE FORCED INDENTATION OF MY COCK IN YOUR ASS

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-23 2:07

>>22
COBOL? FORTRAN? Obsolete?
LOVING
EVERY
LAUGH

I take it you've never used banking or financial services, or caught an aeroplane flight, then. They both heavily rely on COBOL. Near anything involving money will go through a COBOL system. You can find it used in governments and militaries as well.

And FORTRAN.
``It is the primary language for some of the most intensive supercomputing tasks, such as weather and climate modeling, computational fluid dynamics, computational chemistry, computational economics, plant breeding and computational physics.''

BACK TO SCHOOL, CHUMP!

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-23 2:33

Fortran is used to write the following major in-house optical design and
analysis codes:

HEXAGON at Raytheon

OPTIMA at Lockheed

PRG at Nothrop Grumman

ASAP at Breault Research Org.

ODP at West Coast Engineering.

CODE-V at Optical Research Associates

==
the back end of
http://www.usgs.gov/water/
is in fortran.

4tran isn't obsolete, it's obso1337.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-23 15:55

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Just whom are you idiots trying to troll? I know full well that obsolete languages are still being used in some places, mostly due to large amounts of stable legacy code (banks) and low programmer skill (science). But just because you can name a couple examples out of 7 billion doesn't mean that the language isn't obsolete. I bet there are even several dozens of people still playing Sega gaming consoles somewhere out there, for fuck's sake.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-23 16:06

>>31
Optimize your quotes, ください

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-23 16:15

>>31

I bet there are even several dozens of people still playing Sega gaming consoles somewhere out there, for fuck's sake.

plenty of people

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-23 17:48

Banks are moving towards C# and Scala. Researchers have already moved to C and Python.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-23 18:50

>>31

high programmer skill required

Yes, it's called lisp or perl or haskell or C.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-23 20:12

>>35
Whom are you quoting?

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-23 20:16

>>36

Drop dead, annoying faggot

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-23 20:26

>>37
Give me head, cocksucking faggot.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-23 20:27

>>38
homo

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-23 20:30

>>39
Getting a cock sucked doesn't make one a homo.

uhuhuhuh

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