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Name: Anonymous 2015-01-05 6:17

Hello, /blog/. A thought just popped into my head and you all need to read about it.

What if someone (not me; I have better shit to do), set up a traditional BBS that required users to dial in, but had it used VoIP via google voice or some other free, mostly-anonymous service. Wouldn't that be neato. Further, full dialup internet access could be provided over the link. That would throw the NSA off for a bit maybe.

Well, off to bed.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-08 2:28

>>38
Depends on what you mean by "hardware". RTL design and low level software design mean solving many of the same problems. FPGAs mean hardware is nearly as malleable as software now.

>>39
If you are suggesting to only do what the machine can figure out, you are needlessly restricting yourself.

Every programming language prevents you from doing things the machine doesn't understand.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-08 2:36

>>41
But they let you do things the machine doesn't try to understand.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-08 2:46

>>42
Restrictions can be a useful thing. If they weren't, we'd still be writing all our software in unstructured FORTRAN.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-08 3:54

>>39
C is a practical language. What you describe is impractical, experimental, hypothetical grasps into empty air.

No, what I describe exists and is deployed in industry. You're just too ignorant to think anything you don't already know could possibly be true.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-08 4:45

Lisp too alien for you mortals?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-08 5:21

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-08 6:39

can't wait for all the imgurians to get a load of this one

https://imgur.com/SeGwpHR

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-08 10:53

>>39
A language without generics cannot be practical. C is useless.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-08 10:55

>>46
Nice touch releasing 1.0 on Christmas day.

Name: Cudder !MhMRSATORI 2015-01-08 16:53

>>46
502MB
WTF is in there?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-08 18:57

>>50
My local install is about 160MB with libraries.

They probably have to ship LLVM and so on for Windows.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-08 19:05

>>46
And I though haskal was big.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-08 19:12

>>52
Haskell platform is big only because it includes 4 versions of every library.

- statically linked no profiling version
- statically linked profiling version
- shared no profiling version
- shared profiling version

Every fucking library.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-08 19:13

OK, I screwed up a bit. The 4 versions are:

static
dynamic
profiled
GHCi

The GHCi version is just the static version linked together in a single .o file. The other three versions all have their own set of interface files (.hi files) too. The profiled versions seem to be about twice the size of the unprofiled versions (which is a bit suspicious, I should look into why that is).

Remember that GHC itself is a library, so you're getting 4 copies of GHC. Not only that, but the GHC binary itself is statically linked, so that's 5 copies of GHC.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-08 19:16

Check my repeating digits, friends.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-08 19:17

>>53
Haskell platform is still big if you divide it's size by 4.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-08 19:52

It's half docs:
du -sh /usr/local/share/doc/rust/
254M /usr/local/share/doc/rust/


Most of the libraries have both .so and these huge .rlibs:
1.6M libregex-4e7c5e5c.rlib
312K libregex-4e7c5e5c.so

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-08 19:57

>>57
254M docs? What the fuck? Do they use html or something?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-08 20:27

>>58
yes :(

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-08 20:35

>>58-59
The docs are like this http://doc.rust-lang.org/std/

I wish there was a sensible way to put this into man pages but there isn't. The obvious alternative is infopages but that's about as user-friendly as a chainsaw buttplug.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-09 19:15

>>44
And there is a teapot orbiting the sun.

>>48
A tank without a vacuum cleaner cannot be practical. Vacuumless tanks are useless.

>>53,54
So it's shit. Thanks for informing me.

>>55
checked

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-09 19:35

>>61
Whenever somebody points out that your language has no generics, just pretend that you don't need them. Now where have I seen that before? *cough* Go *cough*

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-09 19:44

>>62
Go where?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-09 21:42

why not just not be autistic and use bbs software and telnet like everyone else?

gopher.su 1234 is high quality

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-09 21:46

>>61
There are very many teapots orbiting the sun.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-10 1:02

>>65
It's true, there are approximately 66 teapots orbiting the sun, the same amount as these dubs.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-10 1:40

>>66
There are many more. I daresay 100% of all teapots known to mankind are in orbit of the sun, and I have seen much more than 66 of them, though I confess I have not destroyed nearly that many.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-10 2:28

>>62
Features have consequences. Look at seeples.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-10 3:51

>>68
Look at Go. Compiles shit code with (enforced!) bad formatting real fast!

Implement generics or this could happen to you too.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-10 4:39

>>69
I prefer to look at C and not deal with your nerd drama.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-10 16:27

>>67
Is a teapot that has been destroyed and scattered with the dust still considered to be be a teapot in orbit?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-10 17:12

Isn't there any sort of IRC-over-Tor kind of thing instead?
Freenet would be a fine BBS too.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-10 18:33

>>71
I don't know, I am merely conceding you don't really know a teapot until you have destroyed it with your teeth.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-10 18:58

>>73
You couldn't destroy me if you tried. lil bitch.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-10 20:24

>>74
Interesting. Are you a teapot?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-10 20:37

>>75
Just wait till ma water boils. I'm a gonna scald the shit outa ya delicate skin. Gonna git it all ova yo hooch so ya can't have kids no mo.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-10 20:46

>>76
That sounds like a teapot, but it also sounds like a McDonalds franchise. I can't decide.

If you are a teapot you should be aware that I do not require the use of my hooch nor the assistance of children to chew your china, and other measures may be needed to prevent your destruction.

For what it is worth, I am not up to the task of destroying a McDonalds franchise with my teeth.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-14 5:09

How would a service where you "fake dialing in" with a VoIP service be any differen than one where you just telnet in, and there are already too many of those, we need to unify as a community not create our own projects when identical projects exist elsewhere.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-14 20:50

>>78
we need to unify as a community
Why?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-15 3:09

Fry?

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