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Name: Anonymous 2015-04-02 21:41

Name: hojad !OUKY5mcbp6 2016-01-13 13:10

Unfortunately, the tendency for complex, error-prone and slow software seems to be prevalent in the present-day software industry. We intend to prove the opposite with our software projects.
promotes C

suckless is a NIH meme for people who value premature optimization over correctness

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-13 13:19

Suckless, more like suck this *grabs cock*.

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-13 13:43

>>279
The second one, called ``suckless core - A suckless userspace foundation''
Talk about sbase starts at 11:09

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-13 14:14

>>283
Thanks. Though it really does reinforce /prog/'s view of the project.

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-13 14:54

>>284
Care to explain why?
It convinced me that coreutils/busybox/toybox aren't good enough and why sbase is needed, especially when it comes to international users that have special characters in their mother-language, like ö ü é for example.
Didn't you like the talk? Why not?

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-13 15:06

>>281
don't be a tripfag

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-13 15:08

Only supporting UTF-8 means their 8-bit text files will not be readable. It also means you can't use grep on binary files anymore. The meaning of Unix streams is ambiguous between bytes and text, with binaries often flowing through pipes.

But in general, there's just this sense of "I don't understand why they made these features, so they're wrong", "My preference is like this, so I will present it as the one correct way", "I need a bignum library so I'm going to roll my own even though there are great, mature, focused libs out there for it already", etc. It all smells of hubris, and there's little good reason for it to be such an isolated NIH project.

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-13 16:20

>>286
don't be an imageboard sissy /g/ro

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-14 20:28

>>288
tripfagging is somehow ok because there aren't images in most of the posts
stop trying to force this. everyone can see through it.

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-14 20:33

>>289
I don't know who the fuck you're quoting!

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-14 21:10

>>290
You must be new here. Often people use the quote function to paraphrase, rather than to quote directly. I hope that this newfound knowledge will save you the trouble of going around asking everyone who they're quoting. I'm sure you'll fit in much better now that you understand the culture here a bit more. If there are any other things you don't understand about textboard culture, feel free to ask!

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-14 22:22

>>287
You shouldn't be using grep on binary files in the first place. The proper solution is to write a program to read the binary file and spit out a text file or otherwise modify the program that emits the binary file to emit an associated text file.

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-14 22:28

>>287
idk how you can defend bloat

its fucking crazy..

don't you see the mess we're in?

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-14 22:44

>>293
Your argument sounds religious.

Especially since I don't see anything in >>287 defending bloat.

or Poe's Law is strong here

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-14 22:52

>>291
That kind of culture is plain wrong! The quoting syntax is for quoting, not for paraphrasing or false quoting!

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-14 22:58

>>295
this isn't /jp/ kid

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-15 2:45

>>295
Be descriptive, not prescriptive! There's no cause for you to make value judgements about other people using the quote feature in a way different from how you're expecting. It doesn't hurt you and I'm sure you'll pick up quite quickly when people are using it as a direct quote and when they are (sometimes humorously) paraphrasing after you've been here a while.

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-15 7:55

>>297
People should form new syntax to note different things. Quotes are for quoting. Hashtags are for tagging. Maybe if you want to paraphrase, you can use the non-quote syntax <

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-17 1:00

>>298
Pound signs are for pounding, actually.

Regards,
The Pounder

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-20 0:24

http://suckless.org/rocks

These people seriously think that zlib is a good library, lol!

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-20 0:27

>>300
whats wrong with zlib? I've never used it or studied its code and I beleive you just wondering what's bad about it?

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-20 0:59

>>301
It's a big pile of shit that encourages shitting your code. Similar to libpng, see http://bbs.progrider.org/prog/read/1409183786

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-15 13:35

>>64
ed, getconf, install, od and pathchk are implemented.
The missing tools.

at
awk
bc
diff
patch
stty

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-15 14:23

>>303
don't forget dc. UNIX without dc is just not that good.

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-15 14:37

I can't believe they are rolling their own ``lightweight'' (read: incomplete and untested) bignum lib instead of using libtommath, which is simple enough (considering what a bignum lib entails).
Suckless just makes no sense sometimes.

They use webkit on their web-browser, but can't use libtommath for their dc/bc because it isn't ``lightweight'' enough? Get your shit together and stop the NIH syndrome.

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-15 15:49

What is the point of bio? Why not just use FILE?

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-15 20:03

>>305
source?

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-15 20:28

>>307
his dad works at suckless

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-15 22:21

>>307
http://lists.suckless.org/dev/1512/27874.html
Suckless bignum will be just a toy.
If you want to actually do something useful you'll have to use libtommath anyway.

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-15 22:44

>>309
libtommath
Except that it's shit.

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-16 0:36

>>309
I think you actually mean gmp

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-16 8:00

>>311
Did you need gmp to check your dubs?

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-16 10:28

>>309
<reads linked post>

That dick is a blight on computing and needs to kill himself. Such fuckers enrage me to no end.

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-17 11:10

>>313
You are angry at a man who admits that his design is not intended for perfection?

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-18 0:50

>>314
It has nothing to do with perfection. It has to do with usefulness, especially as he's releasing code under the hubris that his philosophy is better than the others. There's zero point to him writing shit like this, and less than zero point to him claiming that the way he does things is better.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-30 18:06

>>35
*whom

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-31 18:43

316

comes back months later to correct a typo.
bravo.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-31 22:01

suckless
unix
pick one

Name: Anonymous 2016-11-01 4:27

>>318
Explain.

Name: Anonymous 2016-11-01 5:38

>>319
Unix sucks

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