In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6. "What are you doing?", asked Minsky. "I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-tac-toe", Sussman replied. "Why is the net wired randomly?", asked Minsky. "I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play", Sussman said. Minsky then shut his eyes. "Why do you close your eyes?" Sussman asked his teacher. "So that the room will be empty." At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.
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Anonymous2015-05-25 3:28
hahahaha, it's funny because richard stallman was in it
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Anonymous2015-05-25 4:21
>>2 thats not why its funny its not even supposed to be funny
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Anonymous2015-05-25 6:41
>>3 It is supposed to be funny.we laugh at how retarded the Sussman is for not realizing that randomizing the network didn't remove preconceptions, it just made the Sussman unaware of what they were. And also at the fact that he thought that tic-tac-toe was a task for a neural network, a game even chickens can be trained to play.
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Anonymous2015-05-25 8:09
>>4 steven pinkpanda += richy dorkens + nikiti sadz
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Anonymous2015-05-25 13:14
>>2 It's funny because it's re-contextualizing asian mysticism on an entirely different context altogether. As you are aware, koans don't come from nor are inherent to the MIT and are more appropriately found in the context and practice of Buddhism. The dichotomy between a mystical-sounding koan and the AI lab setting is unusual and thus funny.
the fact that he thought that tic-tac-toe was a task for a neural network, a game even chickens can be trained to play.
Are you saying that simulating chicken-level intelligence is easy? You are retarded, my friend :)
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Anonymous2015-05-25 21:11
B-but can chickens really play it?!
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Anonymous2015-05-25 21:52
>>8 Youtube gives a few videos, it's true: they can.
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Anonymous2015-05-25 23:15
This is just stupid, tic-tac is easily solved completely with brute force perfectly. Training dumb nn's helps nobody nothing, it's a dumb pointless activity. It's like being a great architect, but instead of architecting, you spend your time in your room jerking off to some porn and calling that an achievement in architecture. Plain idiotic. Closing his eyes, implying it's zen like, with some deep point to jerking it instead of advancing the science, is again, just dumb and stupid and worthy of dump stupid long fucking rants.
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Anonymous2015-05-25 23:30
tic-tac-toe can be played perfect with alpha-beta pruning which john mccarthy invented.
sussman obviously would have known this, it doesnt mean he wouldnt use tic-tac-toe to experiment with NNs
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Anonymous2015-05-26 3:46
I want to train my chickens to play tic-tac-toe now.
This is just stupid, tic-tac is easily solved completely with brute force perfectly. Training dumb nn's helps nobody nothing, it's a dumb pointless activity. It's like being a great architect, but instead of architecting, you spend your time in your room jerking off to some porn and calling that an achievement in architecture.
No, kiddo, it's like trying your new approach to architecture on a design of a tool shed. The whole point is that you use a problem that has been thoroughly solved in every imaginable way precisely so that you can focus on the strengths and weaknesses of your approach itself instead.
I wouldn't expect an apper to understand that, of course.
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Anonymous2015-05-26 11:31
>>4 But a chicken brain is a primitive neural network.