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Did Ward Cunningham lose his mind.. c2 wiki is gone

Name: Anonymous 2015-09-12 23:48

The c2 wiki used to be a great place to find out controversial information on programming. It was like a intelligent bottom up web forum where people created the content without it turning into thread mode discussion - each page was like a wikipedia page that anyone could edit (though this means it had its faults too). Now Ward Cunningham has shut off the edit feature on the c2 wiki and come up with some bizarre crackpot idea of everyone having their own wiki web servers instead of it all being located on the c2 central wiki... is this sort of like free market wiki instead of centralized socialist wiki? His new wiki system seems to fragment the community and demand something virtually impossible: everyone has their own wiki server. What's the point? Don't fix what ain't broke. The c2 wiki worked fine, even with all its flaws...

The new wiki is called federated wiki (strange name for a wiki... sounds like... russian federation...)

http://blog.talles.me/whats-with-the-new-c2-wiki.html

"Leave Cunningham alone"
...
"I'm just another guy on the internet disliking something new (if we had a penny for each one eh). I'm not trying to mindlessly bash the guy work. The idea/implementation is not bad per se, but I felt it didn't play nice with the wiki concept."

Name: Anonymous 2015-09-12 23:52

http://www.wired.com/2012/07/wiki-inventor/

wiki inventor "sticks a fork in his baby"

Name: Anonymous 2015-09-13 0:12

to find out controversial information on programming
Not only controversial but also rare.

Now Ward Cunningham has shut off the edit feature on the c2 wiki
Is there any way to download the database? like with w4ch.

Name: Anonymous 2015-09-13 0:55

Why shouldn't everyone have their own server? The internet wasn't supposed to be centralized.

Name: Anonymous 2015-09-13 1:05

Name: le /g/reentextman 2015-09-13 10:17

mfw i am the one who got it archived
without me it would be just be fucking GONE
feels goodman

Name: Anonymous 2015-09-13 11:00

>>5
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

>>6
If you are responsible, THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

You did a good thing, a thing that has helped, a worthwhile thing - you may achieved a reduction in the entropy of the universe.

Name: Anonymous 2015-09-13 11:09

>>7
a reduction in the entropy of the universe.
epic le science reddit man carl sagan XD for da win

Name: Anonymous 2015-09-13 11:44

>>8
What do you mean? You're not making any sense.

Name: Anonymous 2015-09-13 11:49

>>7
I'm feeling really terrible about not archiving saovq though :( nobody is able to contact the admin

Name: Anonymous 2015-09-13 16:27

This gigantic pile of unfunny Reddit shit lol so dilbert EnterpriseBrogrammer xD got archived and SAoVQ didn't?

Name: Anonymous 2015-09-13 17:32

>>11
that's right, and there is nobody to blame but ourselves. and we can't find any way to contact the site admin. I just never thought of it because I never imagined saovq could go down.

Name: Anonymous 2015-09-13 17:48

>>6-7
Epic upboats for the Reddit overlords who archived the most epicestest meme database on the Internet ;)

You sir are a gentleman and an upboat.

Name: Anonymous 2015-09-13 22:19

>>11
And that makes me very happy. SAoVQ was filled with non-programming japanese cartoon garbage. c2 is actually about programming. It brings me peace to know that this offends you.

Name: Anonymous 2015-09-13 22:21

>>14
How do you know that? Did you go on SAoVQ daily? What are you, some kind of non-programming japanese cartoon garbage?

Name: Anonymous 2015-09-13 22:42

>>15
I visited it no more than 3 times I'm happy to say. That was enough.

Name: Anonymous 2015-09-13 22:45

>>16
Why did you visit it more than once, garbage?

Name: Anonymous 2015-09-14 4:45

only problem with c2 was that they focused on OOP patterns more than anything else... but then the smug lisp weenies and relational weenies tried to take over and spread propaganda about relational and functional being equally as important (or more important) than OOP hype. Then there were the table oriented programming wheenie(s) who failed to understand the relational model but thought people should be using less oop and more tabular data. It started out as an OOP pattern repository for discussing object oriented patterns in smalltalk, java, and similar jokes of languages

Name: STOOGE 2015-09-14 7:35

>>17
I did not wish to make a snap judgment. Three visits may not be enough to justify my harsh criticism. That said, I'm still glad that c2 was archived. C2 being archived does not prevent SAo biscuits being archived also. You would know that if you could think logically. You would know that if you had read your SICP, or at least written a BASIC program on your Commodore 64, you frigging STOOGE.

Name: VIPPER 2015-09-14 7:50

>>19
It's gone though. We've searched high and low. All that remains is an Internet Archive snapshot of the board's recent nadir.

Name: Cudder !cXCudderUE 2015-09-14 14:06

It's still up, unlike /prog/...

>>6
The Internet Archive doesn't need you to tell it to archive webpages, it does it automatically:

http://web.archive.org/http://c2.com/cgi/wiki

It's only in cases where it fails (e.g. /prog/) that you need to be archiving manually.

Name: Anonymous 2015-09-20 5:00

dubs

Name: Non-Getter 2016-02-17 1:33

Re: "2015-09-14 04:45" message about the different "weenies" perspectives. That's the good thing about it: you get different perspectives. How do the FP fans view problem X? How do the table fans view problem X? How do the OOP fans view problem X, etc. (Note that a table-weenie viewed "relational" as optional, a "static" version of tables, kind of. Some chaotic or unsettled domains allegedly need "bags" or "soft" keys.)

That being said, I also don't get the new "distributed wiki" or whatever it's called either. If somebody else "gets it", please explain it to us non-getters. It's kind of, "Sure, you can watch the play, but you have to bring your own stage."

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-17 5:56

>>23
Learn to quote, you failure.

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-17 7:56

>>10,11

SAoVQ was a dump. Total cargo cult mentality over there.
Imagine a bunch of Japanese people posting Cockmongler pictures in 2016 and telling themselves "it's like we're really American."

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