“Computing may someday be organized as a public utility just as the telephone system is a public utility,” Professor John McCarthy said at MIT’s centennial celebration in 1961. “Each subscriber needs to pay only for the capacity he actually uses, but he has access to all programming languages characteristic of a very large system … Certain subscribers might offer service to other subscribers … The computer utility could become the basis of a new and important industry.”
It talks about solving global warming. Take that, COP21! Take that, Al Gore!
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Anonymous2015-12-20 14:37
"He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense." - John McCarthy
another hero for the ages up there with Terry Davis
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Anonymous2015-12-20 14:39
in 2012 I collaborated briefly with the Terry and we got the newline character in Losethos changed ;)
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Anonymous2015-12-20 14:40
I already sent a missive based on the progress page to the local newspapers here in Canada.
``That's business with .NET'', he proclaimed as a matter of prestige.
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Anonymous2015-12-20 18:54
There's nothing wrong with ``cloud computing,'' or HaaS. It's SaaS that's harmful.
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Anonymous2015-12-20 19:02
Haskell as a Service?
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Anonymous2015-12-20 19:11
>>5 ``Cloud computing'', the concept formerly known as ``grid computing'' and prior to that, ``timesharing'', is an enterprise-enabled marketing bullshite buzzword for the ability of a single machine to accomodate an n>1 number of users -- an ability that computers have had almost since Lisp.
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Anonymous2015-12-20 19:12
>>7 I told >>5 but actually I should have told the entire thread.
Purchasing CPU time or HD space is fine with me, at least in principle.
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Anonymous2015-12-20 19:16
>>7 Yes, I know. I hate the phrase as well, but I don't issue with someone with an expensive and powerful computer charging others to run programs on that computer.
>>12 What is it with you and your ancient terminology? Get with the times, gramps!
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Anonymous2015-12-20 21:38
>>10 SaaS and ``cloud'' storage are the only things the general populous understands to be ``The Cloud'', which is why ``The Cloud'' should be considered harmful. HaaS is not de facto ``cloud''.
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Anonymous2015-12-20 21:44
>>14 I elaborate: in the same way that ``beg the question'' has -- for all intents and purposes -- lost its original meaning, so too has ``The Cloud'' no other meaning than the nominal aether whereupon Dropbox and Office 365 exist.
Incorrect use of ``populous,'' use ``population'' instead.
My point was the phenomenon that McCarthy predicted doesn't encompass all of the elements ``cloud computing,'' particularly the elements that make ``cloud computing'' an unappealing phrase to many people on /prog/.
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Anonymous2015-12-20 23:22
aws lambda
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Anonymous2015-12-20 23:51
Cloud computing is simply a networked computer system with servers and clients.
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Anonymous2015-12-21 10:19
>>7 You forgot "utility computing", which I feel is the most accurate.
EVERYBODY predicted "cloud" computing, especially those from the era where machines were room-sized and everybody used fucking terminals to access remote computing resources!
>>19 The less you care about the underlying details, the more 'cloudy' it is. An Amazon® EC2™ instance is cloudy because you don't care about the location or health of the physical machine it is hosted on. AWS™ λ™ and Amazon® RDS™ are more cloudy, because you just get the service you want without worrying about scaling or storage or OS. It is truly a 'cloud' you can draw in your diagrams with no more detail desirable or possible.
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Anonymous2015-12-23 0:54
Third world problems
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Anonymous2015-12-23 5:09
>>24 I go to 1990s era hotmail.com. I don't know or care which server or how many servers are involved with the request. It's a "cloud email" provider for the modern usage of the term, with nothing to do with whether it's individual servers or something AWS SQS-ish or whatever.
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Anonymous2015-12-23 15:05
>>26 Yes, exactly. Google® Gmail™ and the likes are cloud services, one of the first most ordinary people used, as opposed to the manually set up dedicated servers businesses of the time used, where you may even be told `̀we've moved half our users to another server for disk space, please update your mail client configuration´́.
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Anonymous2015-12-23 16:52
What are you talking about? Hotmail was the first "cloud email service" most ordinary people used, and that was at least a decade before the term "cloud" formed in PHB's vacuous heads.
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Anonymous2016-05-07 1:13
The notion of "hardware as a service" was the DEFAULT vision of the future of computing back in those days, based on the mainframe and terminal model then in use, and it's what science fiction authors generally predicted. We actually moved away from that prediction when we started to use personal computers, but now we're returning to it again (though often rather than a single mainframe or server, we have "distributed computing" with multiple computers working together on a single task).
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