Melcius Moldbug at #lambdaconf, SJWs on suicide watch!

#lambdaconf refused to ban Meldbug for his political views (it's a functional programming conference) and SJWs are assblasted.

Also there's now an SJW list that employers can consult before hiring.

https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/2016/04/10/the-sjw-list/

>>35
There is no such things as bad PR. People will bully them just to add themselves to the database and get attention.

>>1

https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com

Nice shilling of your blog, OP

>>42
Shalom!

Czech 'em!

>>44
shh! Snitches get stitches.

They won. Again.

Yarvin’s selection as a speaker says to marginalized people that their humanity is considered merely another matter for debate. LambdaConf cannot live up to its goal of being a “friendly community of like-minded souls” when it does not protect current and potential members of that community who are vulnerable to those who would deny their humanity.

We believe that functional programming should warmly welcome those who have been systemically excluded from participating in programming communities. We strongly object to LambdaConf’s actions, which are a step backwards as we work together to share functional programming with a wide audience.

Talks and meetups are cancer. They're perpetuated by those that think the Internet should be like IRL. It's always the brogrammers and SJWs. That's why things like this happen. How can they not even talk about programming without PC culture getting in the way? Because they're idiots!

Why do programmers need to have meetings? Programmers don't do things like that. Why do you need to travel just to give a presentation? You can do it over the Internet and it would be a lot better that way. Some people even get plane tickets to do that. It makes no sense. I wouldn't expect this from technologically literate people. Although, as I said, it's not those types that participate in this meetings.

It's the same logic that goes into the scam known as college. Studying something in an ivory tower in a course with a "professor" is supposed to be superior to studying the same subject with the same material in your own environment at your own pace with a mentor that you know. Somehow people are addicted to the notion of seeing each other IRL, thinking that it's making them smarter or something. There's a sense of ego to it. It's not enough to work, you have to be "in", like all the cool kids. You need to be able to say that you didn't do it the easy way. You went and brought yourself to a meeting and got to see all of your favorite appers in person. You maybe even got to *speak* with them. As if nobody has ever communicated over the Internet before. Like you need to visit each other IRL to discuss the Internet and communication software. The irony is baffling and normalfags are so annoying.

It's a cult like persona. It's all about "being in" and being surrounded by people with certain political philosophies to commit nepotism with. They need crybabies to take advantage of. That's why there's so much politics and drama involved with these things. They want control over people. It's much easier to control people IRL than over the Internet. They need to degrade each other and appeal to each others ego. They need to commit the brainwashing and to cull out the ones they don't like. They need the kind of rules and social queues that aren't feasible on the Internet. It's a watering hole for over-socialized liberals.

>>47
The reason people go to conferences is because you get to spend a week with a bunch of people interested in the same shit you are.
You network with them so you can build a network of people you can collaborate with or pull strings with.
That and it's a free overseas holiday, because universities or companies usually pay for their employees to go to these things, it doesn't come out of their pocket.

>>46
So Haskell is officially full of faggotry now? Go thing, I write Pascal.

>>47

It's the same logic that goes into the scam known as college. Studying something in an ivory tower in a course with a "professor" is supposed to be superior to studying the same subject with the same material in your own environment at your own pace with a mentor that you know.

You need a degree to get a job. People even pay for it like $160,000. So college is just a rite of passage to earn money. Nobody cares about it otherwise and can hire and personal professor for the same amount of money.

>>50
Alternatively, you will have to kill your mom or dad, because such is the rite of passage in many crime gangs.

>>50

You need a degree to get a job.

Absurd. There's plenty of high paying jobs that don't require a degree.

People even pay for it like $160,000. So college is just a rite of passage to earn money. Nobody cares about it otherwise and can hire and personal professor for the same amount of money.

Those are the morons that ruin their lives.

>>50
Nowadays most people can't even get a job with a degree, at least not a job their degree is for.

>>50
Which is exactly why we need free college. #FeelTheBern

>>52

Absurd. There's plenty of high paying jobs that don't require a degree.

Ever seen a doctor, an engineer or a lawyer without a degree? Are you ready to hire a person who failed at the law school to defend yourself in a court?

>>55
There's actually a lot of engineers who are self taught or started at a lower level and worked their way up over time.

>>55
Although I disagree with your opinion, I must respect your glorious dubs.

>>56
Maybe in Russia, which has epidemic corruption and phony diplomas. Russian space agency had scandal recently, uncovering a lot of engineers with fake degrees. That is why russian rockets are crashing one after another.

But NASA still functions somehow, guess they hire real scientists.

Can confirm that >>56 is strongly true in the USA. Except for corporate cogs. Tons of those have degrees and tracking along the lifeless and unimaginative path laid before them.

>>59
Actually, in US of A it is felony to work as an engineer without a degree:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_and_licensure_in_engineering#United_States

>>55
A degree does not indicate whether someone has knowledge in a field. I would hire someone based on their experience and track record. I don't respect a degree because college is a scam.

I don't respect someone that spent most of their time doing mandatory gen-eds and barely touching a handful of classes related to what they were studying.
I don't respect someone who spends hundreds of thousands of dollars to learn something they could have learned better by themselves.
I don't respect sports and minority scholarships.

Doctors, lawyers, and engineers should be treated just like any other profession. Go to a trade school, do some hands-on work, get trained on the job or as an apprentice, do an internship. That's all that it should take.

I've seen some complete morons get medical and law degrees. I'm talking Facebook-glued normalfags with no sense of what they are studying. They don't belong in the profession and yet they have a degree. It's not a challenge to get one. All it takes is an absurd amount of money and showing up for daycare for 4 years. A degree says nothing about a person. It's a scam.

>>61

I would hire someone based on their experience and track record.

If you have no experience or track record, then college is the only way to prove oneself. Especially because most colleges have internship opportunities, which you cant get outside of a college. Unless you say practice medicine illegally on the unwilling patients.

>>62
I'm not saying that you can get away with not having a degree. I'm saying that the notion that a degree is necessary is flawed. It's a cultural problem. And college is not a way to prove oneself. The only thing it proves is that you were a neglected kid that got fooled into signing up for being a debt slave. An internship is different. You can get internships outside of college. A college may sponsor you, but it's not always required. I'm not recommending practicing medicine illegally.

We live in a world where children have to endure a 12 year prison sentence for the sake of "education". Then they are expected to go through another 4 years of college. That's 16 years of education just to get started with a career. That's not counting training and internships. What a horrific thing to have to go through just to put some bread on the table.

>>60

Actually, in US of A it is felony to work as an engineer without a degree...

...only for very particular fields of engineering, usually where lives are directly at stake based on the work.

>>63
Consider moving to Africa. Kids ain't enduring anything, they just live their free gang life of sex, drugs and murder.

>>61
>>63
Autodidactism of a full discipline starting from a certain starting point (e.g. a minimum math level and minimum complex comprehension level and problem reasoning level) is good when you have no time limit to do your studies: your time is open ended and your studies can go on indefinitely.

This is not so when you want to achieve a certain level within a defined timeframe. Why is this? You don't know what you don't know. Let's say you get some advice about specific topics to study and perhaps you'll buy the same textbooks that a college degree would prescribe. Now you have to study it. Since you are untrained, you're going to have to pick up EVERY LITTLE DETAIL before you can decide "this bit of knowledge is more important for my progression than this other bit of knowledge". This would take significant time and effort, even more than you'd be doing with a structured education course. You probably don't have peers to discuss your studies with and special purpose Internet forums aren't always the best way to clarify what needs clarification. Even if you finish all the textbooks you've got, how much knowledge do you need before you get to "a good amount of knowledge"? Once again, you don't know what you don't know. This is fine if you've got all the time in the world to build all the knowledge you want.

Structured education is different to this. In all forms of structured education that I've encountered, there have always been unit outlines that describe the learning outcome that one is supposed to achieve for the unit; there are always adequate challenges that further reinforces the theory that's been taught; there are also teaching staff to provide instant feedback and advice about the learning materials. Lecturers will lecture about the absolute basic ideas about the study unit and may also find ways to relate it to reality - progress is well defined and the fundamental knowledge about the subject is defined as well giving students a context about what to study specifically. There are also classmates who would be in a comparable study level to yourself so you can do group study sessions with everyone being on the same page.

Resources like Khan Academy are fantastic because its course structure, education materials and mode of development that is suitable for autodidacts and teachers alike. The thought of completing the level of training in Khan Academy with nothing but a bunch of books and a lot of time is something that the vast majority would not do on their own accord. I guarantee it. You are shitting on people who are capable of learning but don't want to go through the uncertainty of "I don't know what I don't so what should I do".

>>66
Khan Academy is not a substitute for the real college, like say MIT.

In this Aeon, I am euphoric.
Not because of any empty desires of this demiurgic realm.
But because, I am enlightened by Gnosis.
Educators are pawns of Demiurge that will trap you in their ignorance and blind faith in authority.

>>66
Nice dubs

>>68
Better dubs

>>65
Read your post again and consider how stupid it is.

It is worth noting however that Africa the lowest rates of suicide and highest rates of birth in the world.
>>66
If you don't know what you don't know then it's your job to find out. Otherwise you risk being manipulated. A college will have you spend time studying irrelevant things and stretching out relatively simple things for as long as possible for the purpose of harvesting more money. It's unreasonable to wholly trust someone with your education that has a stake in you being uneducated. If there is a certain range of a subject that you need to know, then you can just as easily research that before getting to the subject itself. The belief that every subject can be learned easily or within a certain span of time is awfully idealistic and not something that college can solve. The Internet is yet another thing that makes college obsolete. Of course, if you're not familiar with something, then you still run the risk of being manipulated, but you will succeed as long as you keep learning. That's what real education is about.

I can relate to this personally. I was a kid wanting to learn how to program. I was 14 or so at the time and wouldn't have been able to attend college. I wasn't old enough and I wouldn't have been able to afford it. So I went to the Internet for answers. I got bogged down by both my teenage ignorance and the ignorance of people as a whole. I was told to work with arcane and obscure toy languages. I was taught things that were completely wrong. Eventually I learned to recognize these mistakes. I got to the point where I knew how the ecosystem functioned, which tools were useful and which were toys, and stopped relying on other people. This eventually scored me a job and now college students go to me for advice on how to do their homework.

I find it insane how kids that have spent years in college need help doing basic things. Most college graduates(of computer related fields) can't program their way out of cardboard box. Some examples are being unable to install a Linux distro, write simple shell scripts, host a web page, or even compile a tarball. Of course, many of these kids do have this kind of knowledge. That's because they learned it by themselves, probably through the Internet. A degree was nothing but a formality to them. They just wanted the paper.

To sum this up
- College is not necessary to have a structured course.
- College is not necessary to have peers to communicate with.
- Both options leave a novice with the potential to be manipulated.
- Mastering a tough subject is never going to be easy.
- Not going to college doesn't make you an autodidact.

>>66

In all forms of structured education that I've encountered, there have always been unit outlines

Just ask one of your undergrad friends for the course syllabus.

>>72
Or get a textbook and look at the damn table of contents.

>>73
No, that's what he's arguing against, because undergrad courses rarely study all the contents covered in your typical textbook. You can, however, steal a copy of the syllabus from a clueless freshman to use this ``guidance'' >>66-san insists on. Not being a mental midget also helps.

I don't completely disagree with >>66-san. University comes with its benefits, such as forcing you to communicate with people you don't like, giving you access to material behind paywalls and expensive subscriptions (not always) and giving you a silly certification that shows employers you've spent a fair amount of time working with retards and autistic STEM retards, which is always a nice skill to have in the workplace.

>>74
For undergrad shit, what difference does it make?

>>70
Nah, these dubs are superior, fam.

>>64
In most engineering fields lives and more importantly, money, are at the stake. Be it architecture, aeronautics or just medicine.

>>75

giving you access to material behind paywalls and expensive subscriptions (not always)

College tuition costs a lot more than paywall subscription. So yes, being uneducated nigger is cheaper than being white and nerdy. Then again, niggers lead happy life or sex and drugs, while you waste yours. Who is the slave now?

>>76
Saving some time. You know, undergrads need that precious free time to post their epic memes on Reddit and 4chan.