Why browsers are bloated [Part 2]

Cudder is all talk and no action!

>>39
I didn't.

>>39
Anybody shitting up already shitty boards with dubs shit needs to die.

/kills self

>>42
What's wrong with you dude? Everybody loves checking these dubs.

<----- Check em ^___^

>>28
I don't know. I'm very busy with IRL, and if you're really desperately curious about what I'm doing there, you can get some glimpses from https://bbs.progrider.org/prog/read/1458323194 and https://bbs.progrider.org/prog/read/1465119006 .

CSS selector matching and DOM tree rendering is absolutely trivial compared to what I'm currently working on, but I just don't just have the time for it now.

>>45
Can I get glimpses of your tits?

Cudder, does this work in your browser?

data:text/html;base64,PGhlYWQ+DQogICAgPHN0eWxlPg0KICAgICAgICBib2R5LA0KICAgICAgICBodG1sIHsNCiAgICAgICAgICAgIG92ZXJmbG93LXg6IGhpZGRlbjsNCiAgICAgICAgICAgIG92ZXJmbG93LXk6IGhpZGRlbjsNCiAgICAgICAgICAgIG1hcmdpbjogMDsNCiAgICAgICAgICAgIHBhZGRpbmc6IDA7DQogICAgICAgIH0NCiAgICAgICAgDQogICAgICAgIC5jdW0gew0KICAgICAgICAgICAgZGlzcGxheTogbm9uZTsNCiAgICAgICAgfQ0KICAgICAgICANCiAgICAgICAgLmFudXMgew0KICAgICAgICAgICAgdHJhbnNmb3JtOiBzY2FsZVgoLTEpOw0KICAgICAgICB9DQogICAgPC9zdHlsZT4NCjwvaGVhZD4NCg0KPGJvZHk+DQogICAgPGRpdiBzdHlsZT0iYmFja2dyb3VuZC1pbWFnZTogdXJsKCdodHRwczovL2EucG9tZi5jYXQvbGxqdnR5LmdpZicpOyBiYWNrZ3JvdW5kLXJlcGVhdDogcmVwZWF0OyBoZWlnaHQ6IDEwMCU7IHdpZHRoOiAxMDAlIiBpZD0ibmlnZ2VyIj4NCiAgICAgICAgPGNlbnRlcj4NCiAgICAgICAgICAgIDwhLS0gc2F0b3JpIC0tPg0KICAgICAgICAgICAgPGltZyBzcmM9Imh0dHBzOi8vYS5wb21mLmNhdC9hbm53bncuZ2lmIiBoZWlnaHQ9IjQwMCIgd2lkdGg9IjQwMCIgY2xhc3M9ImFudXMiPg0KICAgICAgICAgICAgPCEtLSBzaGlua3UgLS0+DQogICAgICAgICAgICA8aW1nIHNyYz0iaHR0cHM6Ly9hLnBvbWYuY2F0L3dmd21uai5naWYiIGhlaWdodD0iNDAwIiB3aWR0aD0iNDAwIiBjbGFzcz0iYW51cyI+DQogICAgICAgICAgICA8IS0tIGNpcm5vIC0tPg0KICAgICAgICAgICAgPGltZyBzcmM9Imh0dHBzOi8vYS5wb21mLmNhdC9mcnRndnUuZ2lmIiBoZWlnaHQ9IjQwMCIgd2lkdGg9IjQwMCIgY2xhc3M9ImFudXMiPg0KICAgICAgICAgICAgPCEtLSBzYWt1cmFrbyAtLT4NCiAgICAgICAgICAgIDxpbWcgc3JjPSJodHRwczovL2EucG9tZi5jYXQvZGlkenlnLmdpZiIgaGVpZ2h0PSI0MDAiIHdpZHRoPSI0MDAiIGNsYXNzPSJhbnVzIj4NCiAgICAgICAgICAgIDwhLS0gcmluIC0tPg0KICAgICAgICAgICAgPGltZyBzcmM9Imh0dHBzOi8vYS5wb21mLmNhdC9udHNyZ2YuZ2lmIiBoZWlnaHQ9IjQwMCIgd2lkdGg9IjQwMCIgY2xhc3M9ImFudXMiPg0KICAgICAgICAgICAgPCEtLSByaWthIC0tPg0KICAgICAgICAgICAgPGltZyBzcmM9Imh0dHBzOi8vYS5wb21mLmNhdC9zdmh3eXIuZ2lmIiBoZWlnaHQ9IjQwMCIgd2lkdGg9IjQwMCIgY2xhc3M9ImFudXMiPg0KICAgICAgICAgICAgPCEtLSBnaXJsIGZyb20gdGhhdCBkaXJlY3RvciB0aGF0IGFsc28gZGlkIG1hZG9rYSAtLT4NCiAgICAgICAgICAgIDxpbWcgc3JjPSJodHRwczovL2EucG9tZi5jYXQvamp2cHhqLmdpZiIgaGVpZ2h0PSI0MDAiIHdpZHRoPSI0MDAiIGNsYXNzPSJhbnVzIj4NCiAgICAgICAgICAgIDwhLS0gc3Vpa2EgLS0+DQogICAgICAgICAgICA8aW1nIHNyYz0iaHR0cHM6Ly9hLnBvbWYuY2F0L3JkdG92Yy5naWYiIGhlaWdodD0iNDAwIiB3aWR0aD0iNDAwIiBjbGFzcz0iYW51cyI+DQogICAgICAgIDwvY2VudGVyPg0KICAgIDwvZGl2Pg0KICAgIDxicj4NCiAgICA8ZGl2IGNsYXNzPSJjdW0iPg0KICAgICAgICA8aWZyYW1lIHdpZHRoPSIwIiBoZWlnaHQ9IjAiIHNyYz0iaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cueW91dHViZS5jb20vZW1iZWQvWFA5MFduajBMVG8/YXV0b3BsYXk9MSIgZnJhbWVib3JkZXI9IjAiPjwvaWZyYW1lPg0KICAgIDwvZGl2Pg0KICAgIDxzY3JpcHQ+DQogICAgICAgIGZ1bmN0aW9uIGxlbCgpIHsNCiAgICAgICAgICAgIHNldFRpbWVvdXQobGVsLCAxMDAwKTsNCiAgICAgICAgICAgIGlmIChkb2N1bWVudC5ib2R5LmNsYXNzTGlzdC5jb250YWlucygiYW51cyIpKSBkb2N1bWVudC5ib2R5LmNsYXNzTGlzdC5yZW1vdmUoImFudXMiKTsNCiAgICAgICAgICAgIGVsc2UgZG9jdW1lbnQuYm9keS5jbGFzc0xpc3QuYWRkKCJhbnVzIik7DQogICAgICAgIH0NCiAgICAgICAgc2V0VGltZW91dChsZWwsIDUwMDApOw0KICAgIDwvc2NyaXB0Pg0KPC9ib2R5Pg==

Check em

No CSS yet; just decided to do a quick and horribly noncomformant DOM renderer so I could at least see something.

http://i67.tinypic.com/ezpctv.png

>>49
OMG Cudder delivars!!1!1!!

sage

>>49
You wrote this in FASM, right? Pretty cool.

wisit me shite.

>>55
good dubs

stop being a namefag

>>55
nice dubs

>>52
MASM for HTML tokeniser, everything else still in C. Binary is 28KB.

fibs get

fizzbuzz GET

27.5KB. Still no CSS or any real element support yet. Goal is still 64KB for an Acid2-passing browser.

http://i65.tinypic.com/6iqusp.png

>>60
Why reinvent the wheel, just fork elinks/links and replace critical parts with hard-rolled asm.

>>60
What the fuck, are you using Windows 2000?

>>62
Pretty sure she uses Anondows.

>>62
Actually, WinXP has themes like that.

>>64

WinXP

Nobody uses that anymore.

>>65
Check 'em

>>65
I sure do!

>>61
No CSS support. Text-only. If I was writing yet another text-only browser I wouldn't've bothered with an HTML5 parser.

>>62
WINE

Cudder uses Linux?

>>65
It is the best version of Windows ever and nobody uses it anymore? What a laugh.

>>49,60
Really cool to see you progress, even if the harder work is still to be done. I hope it passes Acid2 soon and you make the public release.
BTW, tinypic wouldn't show me the images until I enabled javascript. You should start using an image hosting site that doesn't need this crap.

wow, Cudder actually delievers. it's a nice surprise, although I'd rather see that decompiler.

hey, is your browser going to be full-featured, with javascript and cookies and other stuff used by THE WEB? and is it going to be open source?

>>72
I only had the time to do this because of the year-end break, but there surprisingly isn't actually that much more left until Acid2. It needs a CSS parser and selector matcher, and the rendering needs to be finished, but passing Acid2 will already put it ahead of Dildlo and NetSurf.

Incidentally, I downloaded NetSurf 3.6 to see if it's improved since the last time I tried it. It's a single binary, but... FOURTEEN bloody megabytes!? That's bigger than Opera 9.x (which includes a JS engine, and passes Acid2...)! I run it and the first thing I see is a "Warning: CSSBase" popup; not a good start. When I try visiting the Acid2 site, I get an assertion and a completely blank page. The Options dialog (there isn't much in there) has one tab named "Apperance". EPIC FAIL.

But then again, looking at the NetSurf code ( https://bbs.progrider.org/prog/read/1406427616/549 ), perhaps I shouldn't have been so optimistic.

I have JS off (obviously...) and the images work fine for me.

>>74
It's not just >>72, I can't see the image without JS too (Firefox, NoScript).

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CHECKEM

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OPTIMIZEM

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konata@kagami:~$ nc i65.tinypic.com 80
GET /6iqusp.png HTTP/1.0
Host: i65.tinypic.com

HTTP/1.0 200 OK
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Cache-Control: max-age=21600
Content-Type: image/png
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2017 01:52:38 GMT
Etag: "641c-5450c49b31834"
Expires: Tue, 03 Jan 2017 07:52:38 GMT
Last-Modified: Sun, 01 Jan 2017 18:06:01 GMT
Server: ECS (pae/377A)
Via: 1.1 varnish
X-Cache: HIT
X-Varnish: 1855206942
X-Varnish-Server: den2tpv65
Content-Length: 25628
Connection: close

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>>60

27.5KB.

Nice job adding more features and managing to go down on size at the same time.
Back in 2014 your binary was closer to 32KB, no? http://bbs.progrider.org/prog/read/1406427616/117

Goal is still 64KB for an Acid2-passing browser.

Why ``still''?
Back then you were aiming for 256KB, no?
http://bbs.progrider.org/prog/read/1406427616/117

It's nice to finally see some progress.
I hope you get to implement css soon and make the first release.
Good luck.