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Flash isn't dead

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-22 17:04

To view this page ensure that Adobe Flash Player version 16.0.0 or greater is installed.
The absolute state of the 200m webpages that need flash.
I can't play web games, gnash can't support it.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-22 17:47

>>1
more like
To view this ransomware ensure that Adobe Flash Player version 16.0.0 or greater is installed.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-22 20:04

>>2
b-b-but my touhou flashes man
this is cudder's fault for not working on xir flash alternative

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-22 20:28

>>3
xir
is cudder trans or are you just joking?

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-22 21:55

Just install the local ''flash player'' off their site, development on lightspark (or gnash if you really want out of date GNU shitware) will continue once the necessity arises.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-22 22:51

We should have used sand-boxed machine code on the Web all along instead of crap like Flash or JavaScript. Smartphones did not exist back then and realistically we could have just had machine code transpilers or universal binaries for other platforms. It's really telling that running old console or arcade games on emulators works more reliably, more portably and is more secure than Flash. Java is not so horrendous, but it was just not the right tool for the job and the VM was not tuned at all for interactive multimedia entertainment.
In hindsight, it's obvious that ActiveX was utter crap but the idea of distributing native code on the web was the right thing. This is because CPU vendors are apparently the only people willing to create and manage super long-lasting interfaces that multiple parties can implement without creating an incompatibility hell. Microsoft's Win32 is not a good counter-example because it is way too huge and complex for competitors to implement (witness wine). It would have been great to have something like D3D9 or OpenGL in the browser though.
What a shitload of missed opportunities!

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-22 23:42

>>6
browsers are sandboxes though
machine code is silly, it's not portable so there's no point
the idea of distributing native code on the web was the right thing
what about webassembly?
Win32
your age is showing, it's called the Windows API now, they dropped the 32 because it's not just 32-bit
D3D9
what year is it?
OpenGL in the browser though.
ever heard of webGL?

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-23 0:21

>>6
"sandboxed machine code" is basically a VM at the end of the day. so why not use a proper VM?
Java is not so horrendous, but it was just not the right tool for the job and the VM was not tuned at all for interactive multimedia entertainment
It's far more performant than Flash and Javascript. Also Java has come a long way. Reminder that Minecraft is 100% Java.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-23 1:39

>>8
minecraft is not a good example of an average java project

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-23 2:26

>>4
biological female

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-23 2:31

>>3
all talk no action!

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-23 4:11

>>5
I won't install anything, besides WebExtensions and lightspark claims it supports 60% of flash.
I'm thinking of running WinXP+Old Firefox+Flash in qemu.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-23 11:32

>>12
some ransomware is wormable, just keep that in mind

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-23 17:04

>>13
is it the flash kind?

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-23 18:39

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Name: Anonymous 2018-09-23 18:40

>>14
There are two main parts to malware:
1. how do you get someone to run it?
2. what does the malware do once it can run on a machine?

There are things on the dark web called exploit kits, or EKs. Most are Flash-based. You use an EK (#1) combined with your ransomware payload (#2) and then you have a full picture. One without the other is useless. It's Flash embedded on a web page. But ransomware is often associated with Flash because it's easier to get someone to click on a link to go to a website than it is to get someone to run an executable file.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-24 3:28

>>16
I never understood why flash is so vulnerable. I thought browsers sandbox it?
Are most exploits related to escaping the sandbox?

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-24 3:42

>>17
Pretty much.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-24 5:14

>>16
Most users don't have flash now, with recent browsers.

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