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Visual Studio is the best

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-23 10:11

If you're developing on windows it is objectively the wrong choice to not use Visual Studio.

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-23 10:12

Notepad++ is the better choice.

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-23 10:25

VS is pretty good for C# (and not only because there are no alternatives) and a trainwreck for Sepples.
>>2
V good auxiliary editor.

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-23 11:45

>>2
Wrong. No building, debugger, tests, performance profiler, indexing, worse keybindings and text editing, feature bloat
>>3
No? Vs is universally accepted as the best C++ IDE.

Notepad++ offers nothing over vs. Waste to even have it installed.

Name: Sublime Text 2018-10-23 13:54

Sublime Text

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-23 14:25

>>5
Sublime Text
The only good thing about it is that it's not written in JS.

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-23 15:19

>>5
Only offers building from the things mentioned in >>4.
It's also slower and buggier than Notepad++.

>>6
Sublime is good, but worse than vs.
At least it looks nice.
I also think it pioneered some useful stuff like c-x cutting the whole line when you haven't selected a block.


Editors which don't index everything and where you have to search and manually replace instead of just invoking a rename action are no competition.
The time loss on this is immense and you also have to bend you're mind so you can't name variables short names which are included in other names.
anu = 1
anus = 2
What if you want to rename anu? Hit tons of ani while you manually slave away renaming every single one of them?

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-23 16:00

I use VS daily and I weep when I remember my EMACS days. People criticise VS because it starts up slowly, but if you do it more than once a week, you’re fucked for other reasons anyway. VS is very performant when you disable git integration (which is half-assed and shit anyway, just use a thin wrapper like git extensions).

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-23 20:06

>>8
VS doesn't work on macOS and Linux. Emacs works everywhere. I regularly use the same Emacs config across all 3 major OSes.

You can't write code to customize the behavior of VS. It's closed source. The extent of your tinkering is clicking menus and radio buttons like a caveman.

Also, you don't have to marry the IDE you were forced to use. You can use Visual Studio or XCode when you need it for those projects and then use Emacs for everything else.

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-23 20:22

>>7
I also think it pioneered some useful stuff like c-x cutting the whole line when you haven't selected a block.
Mind = blown, wow such a revolutionary feature. I can't wait for the holy Sublime Text devs to grace me with more brilliant features.

Oh wait, I use Emacs, so I could just add this feature myself and then get back to work.

(local-set-key (kbd "C-x")
#'(lambda ()
(interactive)
(end-of-line)
(set-mark (line-beginning-position))
(kill-region (line-beginning-position) (point))))

Editors which don't index everything and where you have to search and manually replace instead of just invoking a rename action are no competition.

see: clang-rename, works in Emacs
https://clang.llvm.org/extra/clang-rename.html Edited on 23/10/2018 20:26.

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-23 20:28

I also think it pioneered some useful stuff like c-x cutting the whole line when you haven't selected a block.
C-k in nano.

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-23 20:33

>>11
it's also C-S-backspace in emacs

actually the above code could just be (local-set-key (kbd "C-x") #'kill-whole-line)

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-23 22:45

>>9
One uses xcode for development on mac.
Linux is irrelevant.
Many configuration options are a waste of time.
Clang-rename is an unstable third party tool.

>>10-12
This is not the same behavior. C-x in vs either cuts the selected block or the whole line with newline if nothing is selected.

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-24 0:32

>>9
VS doesn't work on macOS and Linux.
yes it does lmao
You can't write code to customize the behavior of VS
JSON templates, settings.json, etc.
closed source
https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode
>The extent of your tinkering is clicking menus and radio buttons like a caveman.
errything is json actually
use Emacs for everything else
gross, I'd rather use vim if I really had to use a caveman editor

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-24 0:33

>>9
VS doesn't work on macOS and Linux.
yes it does lmao
You can't write code to customize the behavior of VS
JSON templates, settings.json, etc.
closed source
https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode
The extent of your tinkering is clicking menus and radio buttons like a caveman.
errything is json actually
use Emacs for everything else
gross, I'd rather use vim if I really had to use a caveman editor

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-24 0:36

Visual 👏 Studio 👏 Code

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-24 2:03

>>16
shit slaps fam

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-24 2:03

>>14
yes it does lmao
No it literally does not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Visual_Studio
Windows 7 or later

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-24 2:09

>>13
C-x in vs either cuts the selected block or the whole line with newline if nothing is selected.
(defun vs-line-cut (point mark)
(interactive "r")
(if (region-active-p)
(kill-region point mark)
(kill-whole-line)))

(local-set-key (kbd "C-x") #'vs-line-cut)

wow so hard

thank you Microsoft Pajeet for giving us this space age feature. I don't know what we'd do without Microsoft Pajeets.

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-24 2:30

>>18
braindead moron
https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/mac/
also, ever heard of WINE or VMs? Virtualbox, VMware Workstation, VMware Workstation Player, QEMU, Virtualbox...

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-24 2:44

ITT professional programmers writing 100,000 lines of code a year in Visual Studio vs anal abstract bullshiter writing 10 LoC/year of (elisp) code in emacs.

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-24 3:20

>>20
Doesn't support C++, useless. It's a rebranding of Xamarin Studio (C# Mono). it's trash so no wonder I haven't heard of it.

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-24 3:25

>>22
I use VS Code for C++ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-24 4:13

>>20
also, ever heard of WINE or VMs? Virtualbox, VMware Workstation, VMware Workstation Player, QEMU, Virtualbox...
Are you for real?
Why would I go over all those hoops just to use a shitty IDE?

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-24 4:33

>>24
I don't, because I use VS Code instead, but what I'm saying is that it's still possible.

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-24 5:55

>>25
First time I've heard about VS Code. I might try it since it runs on Linux.

I've used Visual Studio Express 2005 for a C# job and it was so much better than Eclipse. That was a long time ago, I don't use IDE anymore.

Although I'm not fond of npm and the only supported languages that I use are lua and go.

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-24 6:13

>>26
Written in: JavaScript, Cascading Style Sheets
This tells you all you need to know about it.

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-24 6:24

VS Code isn't even an IDE, it's just Sublime rewritten in Javashit

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-24 6:28

This thread is about visual studio being the best choice for windows development.
>>14
It's not about vs-code.
>>18
It's not about using an editor for multiple platforms.
>>20
It's not about using vs on multiple platforms.

>>19
Of course the implementation is easy. The design is not. Emacs user do not know anything about design. Please look at the criticism at >>4 again, especially the bad keybindings and feature bloat part.

>>21
Loc is a very bad measure of productivity. Less code is always better.

>>23
Objectively worse than vs

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-24 18:55

What's Windows?

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-25 1:51

This thread is now about Visual Studio Code

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-25 2:16

Microsoft Visual Novel .NEET

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-25 2:27

>>30
They let light into your office. Something a basement-dwelling neckbeard is unfamiliar with.

Name: Old Progger Dude 2018-10-25 11:41

>>33
They let light into your office. Something a basement-dwelling neckbeard is unfamiliar with.

LOL -- soul of wit thou art, young comedian!

http://old.reddit.com/r/justneckbeardthings

Name: Anonymous 2018-10-25 11:43

>>34
your're are an anus
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