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The dust has settled

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-04 12:34

Dead
  • Haskell, Nim, CoffeeScript, Perl
  • Scala, Groovy, Clojure
  • Emacs
  • Internet Explorer
  • Linux on the desktop


Alive
  • Go
  • JVM/CLR
  • VS Code
  • Web Apps
  • Cloud
  • SaaS


Are you happy how it turned out?

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-04 12:52

Where's ou're are maido to clean up all the dust?

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-04 13:31

>>2
Drinking tea with me, OP.

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-04 20:24

Emacs
Is not dead. It will still be around for decades after VS Code falls out of fashion.
Web Apps
These are actually dead. Mobile apps won.

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-04 20:37

Makes me wish I was dead too

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-05 7:13

>>4
Emacs is 100% dead. Underground radical unix communities don't count.

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-05 7:20

Scala and Clojure are pretty big on the JVM though, I think clj actually has more users than meme languages like Kotlin or Groovy

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-05 7:37

If a language/framework/software was dead it wouldn't appear in a list, since it would be forgotten and too obscure. Being in a "dead language" list is just the author hostility to software paradigms he doesn't understand.

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-05 7:42

>>8
CoffeeScript is more or less dead (but that's nothing special in case of languages that target JS and JS frameworks, life expectancy in that space is short because lol ADHD soyboy webshits) and IE is dead outside of the occasional internal corporate systems that were built on ActiveX (I used one in $CURRENT_YEAR; don't ask)

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-05 9:16

>>4
Emacs isn't dead
Emacs has been superseded by VSCode and IDEs.
IDEs have gotten good and we're now at a point where it's objectively a bad choice not to use Jetbrains/Visual Studio/XCode/RStudio.
As a driver of innovation Emacs is replaced by VSCode.
The support for avant garde languages such as D or Rust is better in VSCode.
New ideas get tried out in VSCode.

Web Apps are actually dead. Mobile apps won.
You don't notice, but many Mobile Apps are built with a web browser.
Aside from that Mobile Apps are done. People just use the 15 most popular ones.
Web Apps on the other hand are certainly not dead.
You're posting on one. Nobody uses BBSes anymore, textboards are way more convenient.

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-05 9:20

>>8
If a language/framework/software was dead it wouldn't appear in a list, since it would be forgotten and too obscure
Napolean is dead, but not obscure or forgotten.
Being in a "dead language" list is just the author hostility to software paradigms he doesn't understand.
Ad hominem.

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-05 9:22

>>10
advanced IDEs are good when they exist. functional languages have best support in Emacs. check my dubs

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-05 9:22

>>11
your're are an anus

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-05 9:28

>>7
Scala and Clojure are pretty big on the JVM though, I think clj actually has more users than meme languages like Kotlin or Groovy
My impression was people were moving away from Scala, because they've realized that long compile-times aren't productive and because the compiler is buggy.
As for Clojure dynamic programming languages are very much out of style.

I'd like to add these to the list:

Dead
  • Dynamic PLs

Alive
  • Static PLs

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-05 9:29

>>13
no u

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-05 9:30

>>14
given that javashit is (sadly) getting more popular and python is big in scientific computing, pronoucing death of dynamic langs is premature

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-05 9:36

>>16
Yeah. You're right.
They're getting less popular with professional programmers though.
Didn't Guido play with the idea to add proper static typing? Edited on 05/04/2019 09:40.

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-05 9:50

>>12
advanced IDEs are good when they exist. functional languages have best support in Emacs.
F# and Racket have their own IDEs. Ocaml isn't the only FPL. Also FPLs aren't really relevant.

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-05 9:56

>>18
Racket's IDE isn't really any better than Emacs. it has cool features like macro stepper, but it really sucks for multi-file projects. and similar problems are true for all the proprietary Common Lisp IDEs. they were ground-breaking 20 years ago and ahead of the curve 10 years ago, but they stopped evolving and now feel old and clunky when compared to VS or JetBrains stuff

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-05 10:48

Reddit is playing dead lately with random logoffs and "Service unavailable". Alexa says they're losing audience, these tards can't manage a site.

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-05 11:16

>>19
Racket's purpose is education. The IDE is better for that.

I'll agree on the CL IDEs but CL was dead long before there was any dust.

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-05 11:25

Linux driver model and mentality killed the desktop.

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-05 11:26

>>21
Racket is used for so much more now, it's more like a language design sandbox nowadays. also, check'em

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-06 3:09

As long as I'm alive, emacs lives.

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-06 4:34

[click] Try again

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-06 10:21

>>22
Systemd did.

Name: Anonymous 2019-04-06 14:55

>>26
systemd is the best thing to happen to Linux. systemd lets me do more in less time. I don't want to maintain a bunch of boomer init scripts and remember arcane syscalls just to feel l33t when I could just learn one standard interface and be done with it.
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