Actual Electron criticism?

>it's bloated
Nobody cares that they're downloading a 200MiB exe instead of 35MiB if it works
>but it's slow
People have overpowered computers anyway, they are fit to run Witcher XIX on max settings, it's more than enough to run an extra instance of Chrome
>it's nonnative
Html elements _are_ native in 2019
>it's google surveillance
The os is full of spyware out of the box already and you can configure the telemetry if you're autistic enough to care

Electron has great docuimentation and it very portable, is there an actual reason not to use it?

Nobody cares that they're downloading a 200MiB exe instead of 35MiB if it works

I do. I don't have infinite space.

People have overpowered computers anyway, they are fit to run Witcher XIX on max settings, it's more than enough to run an extra instance of Chrome

And yet it is still slow and overheats my thinkpad.

The os is full of spyware out of the box already

I use debian.

How about the fact that it uses a gorillion of ram?

Heh, I read this a few hours ago:
https://github.com/nlesc/guide
Bloat is growing because academia is being recommended to create bloat

Does it work offline?

>>4
people make desktop """apps""" with it
what do you think?

200MiB executables are a valid complaint, autist.
My other complaint with it, is that it uses a shit-ton of ram. But that's expected when you're using Chromium for rendering.

Now that .NET Core works on Linux and Mac, there's no reason to use gimped alternatives to good GUIs.

>>1
you're retarded

>>8
Thank you, that's very constructive criticism that's representative of Electron sceptics.

>>3

https://github.com/nlesc/guide

What an autistic pile of shit! In real world there are two kinds of software: the one having value to users, and the one being useless. Users don't care what comment style you're using or if you're commenting your code at all.

>>10
And the fact your Electron software loads in 30 seconds, while C++ loads in 1 seconds makes you software lose value in the eyes of the users.

>>11

Electron software loads in 30 seconds,

Proof? It's slow, but it's 3 seconds instead of instantly.

Just use VS code already, geez what's wrong with you people.

>>10
Guess you didn't read. Academics: biology, chemistry, astrophysics, etc., are being taught to use this guide to make responsible peer review/replic-able code. The infamous black hole render used this guide:
https://github.com/achael/eht-imaging
>>12
On a single core processor? Edited on 10/07/2019 14:49.

>>9
>>10
Guess you didn't read. Academics: biology, chemistry, astrophysics, etc., are being taught to use this guide to make responsible peer review/replic-able code. The infamous black hole render used this guide:
https://github.com/achael/eht-imaging
>>12
On a single core processor?

People have overpowered computers anyway, they are fit to run Witcher XIX on max settings, it's more than enough to run an extra instance of Chrome

Yeah, they don't. Chrome is famously memory hungry and even on my dev computer where I have 32G of RAM running more than a few Chrome instances is slow as fuck. Spotify for example has worse response times than applications I've been using back in time on windows 95.

Html elements _are_ native in 2019

You missed the point entirely. Native -> it looks like the rest of your system, and it also works as expected.

Using HTML elements is retarded, because it trows out something like 50 years of user experience and design. Even in most simple apps used by millions of people, like the already mentioned Spotify, I sometimes struggle to understand how it works. And discoverability is shit, you have to use google because retarded spotify devs still didn't reinvented basics of natural discoverability. For example what is the shortcut for banning recommended song? Is there even such? There is a tooltip over the icon, but it shows something like "don't like?" instead of "Press CTRL+b to ban this shit".

The os is full of spyware out of the box already and you can configure the telemetry if you're autistic enough to care

Not my OS.

>>12

Depends on your PC configuration. If you're using SSD, then loading will be faster than with magnetic head storage device.

>>14

Academics don't write any code used by common users. The fact they go autistic about it, would only delay new scientific discoveries, because it is hard to maintain bloated codebase, let alone adapting it for your project's needs.

>>17
Yeah, that's what I said in >>3, the reason we have bloated software is because they are being taught wrong.
I'm not so sure how, if we should even fix the current dilemma. “Users” don't even write code to begin with. I'm not so sure what's your point. Edited on 10/07/2019 17:48.

>>17
Yeah, that's what I said in >>4, the reason we have bloated software is because they are being taught wrong.
Yeah, that's what I said in >>3, the reason we have bloated software is because they are being taught wrong.
I'm not so sure how, if we should even fix the current dilemma. “Users” don't even write code to begin with. I'm not so sure what's your point.

Qt uses JavaShit now (QML).


There is no avoiding the JavaShit bugchasing in 2019. You might as well get pozzed and install Electron.

>>19
Curses still doesn't use Javascript.

>>18
They were taught to use Java for fuck's sake! Currently the only good scientific language is Mathematica. Long ago it was Lisp.

>>20
I remember when I started programming in 2008, I created a visual interface for rsync in curses and was so proud that I showed it to my father. He called me a faggot and told me to do something useful instead.

>>1
malloc(10000000000000L)
here bro just put this in all your programs why do you even care are you poor or something?

>>23
That will have no effect on any OS with MMU, unless you actually try to access that memory.

>>23
This is pretty much what ghc(i) does. It allocates 1TiB of memory at startup.

>>25
Why? Is it necessary to store the model of the world, so you can immutably interact with it to performpurely functional I/O?

>>24
void *a = malloc(10000000000000L);
*(a + 100000000) = 0xFF;
here bro just put this in all your programs why do you even care are you poor or something?

>>25
So this is the pinnacle of smart garbage collection.
https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/issues/14193
https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/issues/14192
https://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/6y7d1n/a_little_debugging_help_for_our_haskell_backend/dmlf9aq/ 1TB core dumps aren't normal, but on Haskell it is.
https://mail.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-cafe/2016-October/125252.html Can't even run without swap

>>27
That would still allocate only a single 4kb page.