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Halting Problem and Psychiatry

Name: Sad Cow 2019-11-02 13:31

http://lj.rossia.org/users/sadkov/534132.html

How can psychiatry even claim to treat thinking disorders, given the halting problem and Godel Incompleteness theorem? These are provably unsolvable problems of AI, and they also apply to human brain. They are the reason mind control would generally be never possible.

It is indeed possible to completely scan the brain (already done for small animal's brains, like the fruit fly), and it is possible to run brain in neural simulator (also done for a few very simple animals). Yet animal brain cannot be studied disconnected from the real world. So how could it ever be possible to predict what the brain will do, without ever running it in the real world? With the number of neurons the complexity raises exponentially, to it would never be possible to enumerate all states, let alone studying brain in lab (psychiatric ward), which would be a very limited part of the world.

The problem becomes even more complex, given the hormones, aging, bacteria and various instincts, like hunger and sex drive. So even given the complete brain structure, it impossible to infer what could trigger say the next schizophrenia event. Haloperidol wont help there, beside acting a tranquilizer and marginally reducing the chances agitation happening, also preventing the patient from doing any constructive activity, which actually induces the chances of something bad happening to the patient and people around.

Given that we can conclude that psychiatry is just a pseudoscience, which over-promises and contemplates over a system, which is mathematically proven to be impossible to analyze.

Name: Anonymous 2019-11-13 4:06

>>11
Yes
Say that you have a program f(x), and you want to find if for a specific x said function returns dubs. This is undecidable because of the halting problem.

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