Name: Anonymous 2020-03-03 23:51
Generally there just two types of crimes:
1. Poverty based: you want to get an iPhone, but your $100/month job would never allow you to buy one.
2. Madness based: you want to get an iPhone no matter what, even taking it from a corpse.
Madness frequently too grows out of necessity and poverty: bad birth conditions. Mother's alcoholism, head injuries, absence of birth defect testing, eugenics ban, irrational environment based of religion, psychological traumas, etc.. -- all affect population's mental health. In other cases people are just crazy from birth, like the individuals with down syndrome.
In both poverty and madness cases criminals are innocent. Even the most violent and damaging ones. People are not guilty of being poor and having no money to satisfy their needs. Mad people are not guilty either: not their fault they a sustained brain injury and lost touch with reality, or got genetic-based chemical imbalance leading to headaches, irritability and aggression, ending in violent crimes.
Our Universe is deterministic. Individual's behavior is completely determined by the environment he lives in and his upbringing. There is no free will, and therefore people are not responsible for their action. So it must already be obvious that using the justice system to punish people is a completely wrong and inhumane idea. We bust abolish the punitive justice system.
Reasoning further, we can argue that prison system is completely deficient. Prison cannot fix poverty and help inmate getting paying job on release, since inmate gets no useful skills in prison, moreover losing whatever skills he already has, but in addition gaining prison records, baptizing in prison culture and finding friends among career criminals. All that while being a handicap for the taxpayers. Prisons are truly universities of crime. In case of non-violent crimes, people propose fines, as alternative for prison. Unfortunately placing fines upon a poor person is inefficient either, since a fine would only make a poor person even poorer and more prone to commit further crimes.
Same way you can't fix a crazy man by isolating him, keeping for a few years in a ward or prison, and then releasing into the wild, hoping he wont have emotional and reasoning problems again. Modern psychiatry is unable to fix anything but the most basic cases, like actual chemical imbalance, which is not the case in most psychiatric patients.
In fact, it is mathematically impossible to fix or even pinpoint brain dysfunction in general case, even in abstract axiomatic setting where everything is well defined and doesn't interact with outside world. That problem has different names, including "halting problem", "godel's incompletness theorem" or the "ai stop button problem", where it was proven that general AI cannot be analyzed and validated it wont do harm. In fact, it cannot be proven such complex system would do or not do anything at all, without actually evaluating it with all possible inputs, which is impossible, even theoretically, when number of inputs is infinite.
Given these facts, we have to admit that imprisoning poor people or putting them into mental ward is inefficient. The only real solution is eliminating poverty. It is provable that poverty can be reduced only by creating new jobs or reducing competition for the existing jobs. That leads us to conclude that poverty problem is itself connected with overpopulation problem and the shortage of high paying jobs, doing which would allow individual to buy very expensive items, like iPhone.
That means reducing poverty requires lowering population until there will be more jobs than there are workers. Mad people on the other hand cannot be fixed at all, no mater the medical progress. So it would be logical to just execute all criminals outright, even those caught for minor theft of say a chocolate bar. That by itself would automatically reduce population and boost wages. Moreover, in case of poverty caused crime explosion, it would make sense to not inflict death penalty upon serial killers, since these criminals by themselves help reducing population down to a manageable level. We must release the likes of Andrei Chikatilo, since Chikatilo is mad and cannot be fixed, but he is not poor. I.e. Andrei Chikatilo is a very good and productive society member, who helps reducing poverty by eliminating superfluous individuals competing for the limited number of jobs.
Yet we must publicly flay alive petty criminals to make a good example for other poor people and scare them into not doing crimes, when they can survive without stealing. It makes some rational sense to do violent public executions, like burning and boiling criminals alive, because that would scare potential criminals from committing crimes, unless they are completely crazy or cannot survive without stealing, in which case they have no place in society either.
1. Poverty based: you want to get an iPhone, but your $100/month job would never allow you to buy one.
2. Madness based: you want to get an iPhone no matter what, even taking it from a corpse.
Madness frequently too grows out of necessity and poverty: bad birth conditions. Mother's alcoholism, head injuries, absence of birth defect testing, eugenics ban, irrational environment based of religion, psychological traumas, etc.. -- all affect population's mental health. In other cases people are just crazy from birth, like the individuals with down syndrome.
In both poverty and madness cases criminals are innocent. Even the most violent and damaging ones. People are not guilty of being poor and having no money to satisfy their needs. Mad people are not guilty either: not their fault they a sustained brain injury and lost touch with reality, or got genetic-based chemical imbalance leading to headaches, irritability and aggression, ending in violent crimes.
Our Universe is deterministic. Individual's behavior is completely determined by the environment he lives in and his upbringing. There is no free will, and therefore people are not responsible for their action. So it must already be obvious that using the justice system to punish people is a completely wrong and inhumane idea. We bust abolish the punitive justice system.
Reasoning further, we can argue that prison system is completely deficient. Prison cannot fix poverty and help inmate getting paying job on release, since inmate gets no useful skills in prison, moreover losing whatever skills he already has, but in addition gaining prison records, baptizing in prison culture and finding friends among career criminals. All that while being a handicap for the taxpayers. Prisons are truly universities of crime. In case of non-violent crimes, people propose fines, as alternative for prison. Unfortunately placing fines upon a poor person is inefficient either, since a fine would only make a poor person even poorer and more prone to commit further crimes.
Same way you can't fix a crazy man by isolating him, keeping for a few years in a ward or prison, and then releasing into the wild, hoping he wont have emotional and reasoning problems again. Modern psychiatry is unable to fix anything but the most basic cases, like actual chemical imbalance, which is not the case in most psychiatric patients.
In fact, it is mathematically impossible to fix or even pinpoint brain dysfunction in general case, even in abstract axiomatic setting where everything is well defined and doesn't interact with outside world. That problem has different names, including "halting problem", "godel's incompletness theorem" or the "ai stop button problem", where it was proven that general AI cannot be analyzed and validated it wont do harm. In fact, it cannot be proven such complex system would do or not do anything at all, without actually evaluating it with all possible inputs, which is impossible, even theoretically, when number of inputs is infinite.
Given these facts, we have to admit that imprisoning poor people or putting them into mental ward is inefficient. The only real solution is eliminating poverty. It is provable that poverty can be reduced only by creating new jobs or reducing competition for the existing jobs. That leads us to conclude that poverty problem is itself connected with overpopulation problem and the shortage of high paying jobs, doing which would allow individual to buy very expensive items, like iPhone.
That means reducing poverty requires lowering population until there will be more jobs than there are workers. Mad people on the other hand cannot be fixed at all, no mater the medical progress. So it would be logical to just execute all criminals outright, even those caught for minor theft of say a chocolate bar. That by itself would automatically reduce population and boost wages. Moreover, in case of poverty caused crime explosion, it would make sense to not inflict death penalty upon serial killers, since these criminals by themselves help reducing population down to a manageable level. We must release the likes of Andrei Chikatilo, since Chikatilo is mad and cannot be fixed, but he is not poor. I.e. Andrei Chikatilo is a very good and productive society member, who helps reducing poverty by eliminating superfluous individuals competing for the limited number of jobs.
Yet we must publicly flay alive petty criminals to make a good example for other poor people and scare them into not doing crimes, when they can survive without stealing. It makes some rational sense to do violent public executions, like burning and boiling criminals alive, because that would scare potential criminals from committing crimes, unless they are completely crazy or cannot survive without stealing, in which case they have no place in society either.