@mikechappell4156 5 days ago (edited) Linus is a person, not his foundation. He isn't known as a swell fellow. Linux was started because of a licensing issue. He generally makes logical decisions. But he doesn't want political debate on kernel forums. The kernel is his baby, he isn't encouraging political freedom and debate when discussing it, no one else's political feelings are important to him there. If you make technical arguments he isn't checking your politics. There is no need for political debate in technical forums. It is quite possible that the Linux foundation could be a social warrior project, but Linus actually appears to care more about the quality of code than politics. As for the stuff with the Russian developers ban, there was no reason why he or his foundation should pick a political fight regardless of his political stance.
The Lunduke Journal is more political than the mailing lists. I don't have a problem with that but the story is fairly hypocritical. 4
@DrivewayNightmares 5 days ago Linux has betrayed the digital village and must be replaced.
@CptMark 5 days ago Sure, he has his personal opinions. Did he ban anybody from Linux development for his? (disregarding the "no Russian" policy) Is the guy from the vax debate still developing kernel? 1
@MauDaFaca 5 days ago To be fair.... we cannot confuse personal views with a software project. Programs should be for the most part neutral. as for the developers, they are entitled to theyr opinions.
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@mikechappell4156 5 days ago (edited) Linus is a person, not his foundation. He isn't known as a swell fellow. Linux was started because of a licensing issue. He generally makes logical decisions. But he doesn't want political debate on kernel forums. The kernel is his baby, he isn't encouraging political freedom and debate when discussing it, no one else's political feelings are important to him there. If you make technical arguments he isn't checking your politics. There is no need for political debate in technical forums. It is quite possible that the Linux foundation could be a social warrior project, but Linus actually appears to care more about the quality of code than politics. As for the stuff with the Russian developers ban, there was no reason why he or his foundation should pick a political fight regardless of his political stance.
The Lunduke Journal is more political than the mailing lists. I don't have a problem with that but the story is fairly hypocritical. 4
@DrivewayNightmares 5 days ago Linux has betrayed the digital village and must be replaced.
@CptMark 5 days ago Sure, he has his personal opinions. Did he ban anybody from Linux development for his? (disregarding the "no Russian" policy) Is the guy from the vax debate still developing kernel? 1
@MauDaFaca 5 days ago To be fair.... we cannot confuse personal views with a software project. Programs should be for the most part neutral. as for the developers, they are entitled to theyr opinions.
Why is Shad of Shadiversity a racist? I notice all the gays and women and Filipinos with painted nails even tho they are men hate him. The Filipino brags about another right wing YouTuber he complained aboutt being sent to prison and tacitly wishes Shad to be kidnapped by the police of Australia and locked in hell.
In America you don’t own anything (ownership is dominion and control) because of property taxes and eminent domain. There is no “democracy” either: if there were then there would be no property taxes as it is a thing everyone hates. A simple proof that this “democracy “ does not exist and never has. The only recourse for said supposed property owners is to use the same type of force that the state uses to evict property owners with. The state will hide its casualties: they can lose 1000 and claim only one was injured while crowing that they ended you: however at least it will cost those who choose to physically remove you. The same happened to the Irish with the English and this universal situation in America has the same solution.
Atleast they're turkish muslims that look very balkans-YT: Süleyman Hilmi Tunahan. Thats all I can say. Maybe out of all the muslims to choose from (not that us "residents" have a choice) they'll fit in most with the town. Looking at the founder: he looks like he mostly has balkan roots likely from all the girls the turks took from Russia/Ukraine/Yugoslavia etc: eventually you become what you consume. So there's that. And no I don't care if the American Constitution or Americanism bans caring about if the people coming to your town are atleast from somewhere near europe: I was just born here (Irish/Swiss-German/Polish mutt): I didn't choose to come here and I never thus agreed to your beliefs or laws. I'm like a deer: just born here. I'm sad to lose our midnight mass place though. It is heartbreaking to see the video of the sign going down. But people who follow God's command to be fruitful and multiply survive. Peoples that reject his old laws do not.
I was there for an Advent Mass just a few months ago. We went to Midnight Mass for Christmas there every year. If it was disused how was I attending the special Hibernian Singers Christmas Mass every year for over a decade? Am I InSaNe and deluded and seeing things for 10 years? Did I hallucinate it all AdamG? If it were a secular-use building how is it that it had a concecrated church in it, as it's largest part? You will not answer this: Adam: If you want to confront: time and place.
So does the original non-english, Greek, Hebrew, Old Testament. (also the Latin translation); the first 5 books which are the actual word of YHWH before changes were made via newer books. USA just doesn't actually allow freedom of religion: only freedom of religious assembly. Just as it doesn't allow you to have whatever weapon you want. It doesnt and never has followed it's so called constitution. That was just a hook to get the pesants to accept the newer Federal Constitution. Your ancestors married girls too. We weren't always under New-Testament-Only Better a Millstone, etc etc as we are now. USA allows only one religion: equally applicable state laws.
Money was originally invented in Sumer for the 1) Approportion of grain to the army and 2) to purchase young virgin girls for marraige. That is it's First Purpose. (you can read the cuniform tablets if you doubt this). Just as the First Purpose of a wheel is to roll. If a thing cannot accomplish it's First Purpose it is not that Thing. You are not paid money. Ownership is Dominion and Control. The towns in LI kick you out using deadly force if you do not pay their property taxes. You do NOT own Property in the USA. Neither are you afforded Life: the european cultures that used to marry young girls (and yes they did, history has recently been rewritten) generated much Life. Your culture which banned marrying young virgin girls generates no life. And as for Liberty: you ban men (sorry MMAALLLESS) from everything naturally good in life. So no: You do not have Life , Liberty, Nor property. You are a totalitarian society like any other with your own enforced system: which is your religion in reality.
@pitchforkrebel5594 2 days ago What's the point of open source software if it's going to imitate the worst tendencies of closed source?
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:14
@J.erem.y 2 days ago Hate to say it, but it seems Linux is not going to be for people like us sooner or later
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:15
@altscott 2 days ago The very first card on their list... the 3COM 3C509. I still have one, and still use it.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:16
@YellowMageBee 1 day ago That email is written like they need an excuse, not a reason.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:17
@dr.strangelove5708 2 days ago Confirms what I been thinking, it is no longer good to really update anything anymore. 1
@grokitall 2 days ago I can remember back when windows xp came out seeing support for isa cards being removed due to nobody having any hardware to test code on. I also remember drivers being deprecated pending removal due to not having anyone care enough to step up and maintain it.
the main difference back then was that the bugs being reported were from real people finding real bugs on real hardware they were daily driving. this meant that you could enter a dialogue with them, and get them to test patches to fix the bug.
the issue you are highlighting is that because modern tools are being used against the entire code base, it is flagging up cases where it did not used to matter that a driver was unloved. once visible, they then enter the same unmaintained - deprecated - remove cycle that the kernel has always had. this was usually a many version pathways which i have seen in some cases take a couple of years to complete, and at any time someone can come along and say "i'm using that and will be the maintainer and tester" and the removal process stops.
supporting legacy hardware for backward compatability is not free, and one of the costs is the new capabilities you cannot add because the old code needs massive workarounds due to missing hardware features in older hardware. this is most easily seen with processors, where the old ones don't have some of the newer extensions, but you also see it with sound cards where they don't have pulse audio drivers, and are still running on alsa.
basically at some point you have to ask the question how much is it costing us to keep this unmaintained, untestable hardware without some modern features, and if the cost is too high, you have to move it onto the removal path.
@hosseinkarimi6979 10 hours ago Microslop laughing in a dark room (they told AI to submit bug reports so that one of the main strengths of Linux gets hit.) 1
@JoeMcStevens 1 day ago Linus Torvalds was selected as a precursor to the Young Global Leaders (YGL) program. He was named a Global Leader for Tomorrow (GLT) by the World Economic Forum (WEF) in 1999.
@r8dj 2 days ago (edited) It's by design bruh....esp. where things like hamradio & old tech are concerned. These are avenues of freedom that are not easily controlled, therefore must be eradicated.
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@Alex.Adametz 1 day ago Would it be okay to just use an older kernel on old hardware? Or the lack of latest security updates will be an issue?
@StCreed 2 days ago Anyone complaining: feel free to maintain the drivers yourself and bring them up to speed as a user-space project, not part of the kernel anymore. That wasn't a great decision anyway (drivers in kernel space have always been risky) so I'm happy to see them restricted to current and actual hardware. The code is still available for everyone to use.
@nbrown5907 2 days ago Lol, the new approach for desktop dominance is if you cannot beat MS do the same things. Now all you need as a sales department Dilbert lol. 1
@spacecube40 1 day ago Well. In Arch you cant even use a gpu from 2018. You have to go the way of the aur to do use it. This is all the same damn mentality the wayland people have. Its all extremely woke. It is sick. Its "our way or the highway" "If you dont use the same software as us or think exactly the same as us or have the same opinions as us, you need to cease to exist" Thats pretty much how they think and function
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@onomatopoeial 14 hours ago they are sellouts and it will become more obvious in a few years. I'm pitying any real person who is still contributing to this, their energy is leeched. 1
@mitch9668 1 day ago We will need to recompile our own custom kernels with the driver blobs.
@jamesvanzeeland1749 2 days ago Seems to me that such drivers could be fenced off and disabled by default if really necessary and optionally enabled by those who need it instead of removed altogether? 1
@Codytherudeguy 2 days ago If anyones going to move to netBSD and has experience please help us port things to netBSD 1
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@santoshk1983 2 days ago Lunduke, someone as experienced as you should sure realise that this sounds like a transparent excuse to remove stuff they have already wanted to remove since a long time? Blaming AI is childish. AI has no agency or it would be AGI. It simply does what you command it, just like a non-AI program. Blame these kernel devs. They've all become corporate employees over the past two decades. With the amount of money the Linux foundation is getting (as you yourself covered), no wonder Linus, Greg etc have been co-opted. Do they have a choice any more? There was a time in the past when Torvalds boldly gave the middle finger to a tech giant. Can he do that today? Will he dare? Every time he writes something these days, he just sounds to me like a tired, exhausted to the bones, corporate middle manager, incensed with his employees... The spirit that made Linux Linux is thoroughly gone. And it probably ain't coming back.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:23
@juanconnor8224 2 days ago (edited) Linux development has been compromised by big tech and government. AI is not a tool, AI is an enforcement mechanism
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:24
@uksuperrascal 14 hours ago This Just an excuse made up by the microslop war on Linux, microslop have bribed the Linux Kernel team to sabotage Linux by removing drivers. TIME TO FORK AND TAKE BACK CONTROL.!!!!!!!!
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:26
@apaijmans 1 day ago More reason to switch to the BSD family. 1
@wWvWwWvWw 2 days ago I actually don't think this is a bad thing. OpenBSD frequently nukes stuff because no one is maintaining it and its buggy/messy/etc. 1
@nicolaspinto2927 1 day ago We had to fork X11 to keep it from being deliberately killed off, it's looking more undeniable that at some point the linux kernel will have to be forked for the same reasons.
@prjndigo 2 days ago getting your IP block banned permanently globally without any chance of government overturning it is NOT a good way to go down... then you have to deal with the people who will defend linux with thermite, carbon fiber and mortar systems.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:26
@Shonicheck 2 days ago So... Linux foundation spends like less than 5% on actual development if i remember correctly. Yet we have kernel team complaining about lacking man power
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:32
@42crazyguy 2 days ago Ridiculous. A huge number of people(including myself) got their first taste of Linux by installing it on an old laptop to mess around with. What are they thinking?
@riwjin 1 day ago Can't one day go on without fucking dystopian news?
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:33
@tarose71 2 days ago Did you notice also this is the outcome of people allowing the big corporate players to take control - this all happened since Microsoft and others like that got involved ... when are people going to understand that conspiracy is not crazy, conspiracy is COMMONPLACE, and anyone who thinks no two people ever conspired IS CALLED NAIVE ... ffs people, wake up, Microsoft got involved for the purpose of stealing code for their own systems and trying to undermine and sabotage its greatest competitor, THAT is its only reason, it does not care about open source or free software or anything else like that.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 2:32
@brainslayer666 2 days ago if i see he first picture in the video already. great i have such a moxa device. so its trash now. thanks
@MrStevetmq 2 days ago I liked Linux because it supported so much hardware.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 2:33
@AkisShade 2 days ago If the bots can find the problems, they can fix em. Just have some tests that the bots need to pass for that particular driver and just check in once in a while to make sure things haven't blown up. We've have version control for decades so it's not hard to roll things back.
@JibunnoKage-YouTube-Channel 1 day ago (edited) Debian 12 and before supported eSATA well. Now as of Debian 13... they have all but destroyed eSATA support. Not even because of A.I.... because it is no popular is the comment. Cannot even use older drivers for the eSATA based disk racks I have... because they ripped out support for the eSATA adapters I have. My eSATA is on the mainboard... is completely stable... just older... now dead, useless. Shame on Linux. I believe the real reason for all of the hardware retirement... is because, using order hardware... that is often better quality... generates no profits! That is the real reason older hardware is being purged from Linux... after all most Linux development is now what? Corporate sponsored! Of course.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 2:34
@fischi135 19 hours ago Linux going evil was not on my List for 2026
@yumbumgardner2394 2 days ago Linus Torvalds said himself that he is the communist you worry about. You'll own nothing and you'll be "happy",
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Anonymous2026-08-12 2:35
caApolzan-y2j 2 days ago As a retro computer hardware enthusiast, this is sickening. They've killed 486 support?! I was sold on Linux because I thought you could breathe new life into even 30-year-old hardware. And now they're taking that away. Sickos.
Imagine if some guy from an underdeveloped country wanted to use their computer again, but Mister Greg Kroah-Hartman decided it was time to take Pentium 4 support away. There are lots of Linux tools that are made for old computers, like Xfce and SeaMonkey. I recently heard Firefox will cut off 32-bit support, so if that also happens to the Linux kernel, I might as well fork it.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 2:38
@bobsobol 1 day ago It's a shame, but I have been moving my old kit over to NetBSD, because it's still supported. 386s, 68000s, PPCs, and usually most of the IO chipsets and peripherals. Sad, but true, Linux is abandoning all of that kit, to NetBSD.
And don't get me wrong, NetBSD is a fabulous OS. I just like to see real competition, even in the OSS sphere. I truely believe this is how things get better. Free, and fair competition.
@elindred 1 day ago First they came for the pcmcia wireless cards, and I didn't say anything because I was unimaginative and incurious...
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@Tulah 1 day ago This makes me very sad. At the very least they could've disabled those drivers by default and left them there with massive warning about taking responsibility of ones own actions. I still have a bundle of 3c509's and 3c590's that do the job just fine with older hardware :-/
@thedungeondelver 2 days ago Before I got in to Linux I threw out FOUR once-upon-a-time expensive (albeit analog) capture cards because their support had ended after Windows 95. FOUR. Pinnacle and Miro cards. Had I known I could have whacked a Linux box together to run them in (even if swapping them out) I'd have held on to them. At least one of them, for a time...
@NotHereLookAway 16 hours ago I will invest my future efforts in BSD. I guess Torvalds and GPL and all the bribed activism led to a slow decline. I believe the bsd license removes this, as there is no profit motive. There is just good code, which is what matters. (Not enough good code yet, but I hope to help)
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Anonymous2026-08-12 2:40
@jamesm5192 2 days ago Leftists always use words like "interesting" in a sarcastic way to mean something entirely orthogonal to the definition of "interesting." Always a tell. "Interesting = bad". Total brainrot 1
@qweqqweq2090 2 days ago so is there any advice i can get from this? like, a strategy for updates?
@MS-ig7ku 2 days ago Linux is being destroyed. 1
@tenzingyatso5096 1 day ago At least you can compile your own kernel
@shizeeque 1 day ago Linux is getting slower for the past 10 years at least. And the Linux 6.12 -> 7.0+ jump was the biggest dip in performance so far. I remember feeling sad when I've updated from 2.6.16 to 2.6.39 and my system became noticeably slower for no reason
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Anonymous2026-08-12 2:40
@shifureisaikyou2055 2 days ago (edited) Just excuses. they have been deprecating stuff at an increased rate since 2020, maybe they put LLMs up to this on purpose"find issues with old drivers"(so we have an excuse to deprecate/orphan/remove), an none excuse would be use an AI to auto reject these issues for old drivers... this creates documentation if in the future someone needs these drivers and can fix(none imaginary issues),they may be nclined to become a maintainer, but now: no maintainer in 2 days?? let's just remove them ALL. All is corporate influences the donations probably have strings attached which demand to focus on things the overlords want 1
@_M_643 1 day ago In my opinion there needs to be at least some stability within the kernel APIs so that drivers don't need to depend on being in the kernel.
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@Biblically-Accurate-Clippy 42 minutes ago What a depressing time for me to decide to try and remember why I loved computers in the first place. 😒
@josepholsen9831 2 days ago It’s my opinion that Microslop, Amazon, etc. are hijacking Linux. Linux is what the clouds run on. Linux is what AI runs on. They have infiltrated the Linux development system in order to control it, shape it. AI datacenters are not going to run on Pentium IIIs. Servers don’t need keyboards, mice, etc., but they do only run on the latest processors. Also, it benefits MS to have Linux set for servers only so that home users will be locked into Windows. Linux is the closest it’s ever been to home desktop use.
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@Notsoknown-411 1 day ago I have a laptop from 1994, a laptop from 2007 and a PC from 2004 that I run Linux on. Sad that they want to take that away.
@multi-mason 2 days ago Video won't play. Weird YouTube playback error, which I've not seen before. Mobile browser, but not YouTube app (I mean, I don't use the app, so don't know whether the error happens in the app).
@neznaika2022 1 day ago FORK IT! FORK IT! FORK IT!
@FunningRast 1 day ago And the Ai brings in crappy bloated overly-complicated non-sensical trash code. 1
@ULTIMA-LordCantabrigianBritish 2 days ago (edited) Seems like we get the fedora update every day or twice a day now they push one out.
@akulkis 2 days ago Something tells me that the Linux Foundation is run by a bunch of MBAs who couldn't even write a program in BASIC if their lives depended on it. 1
@wizardseven 1 day ago (edited) There is likely fear of massive number of vulnerabilities for older drivers
@RenoSCM 2 days ago the problem is - younger devs want to 'fix' everything to current tech - i.e. recompile to Rust, drop apis for systems that are older than they are, etc. i get it that legacy systems can add baggage to old code bases, but they need to be careful about corporations that have older stuff, that they are not aware of and spend $$$ for support on them. it's basically what Microsoft has to deal with every day.
@khelben1979 1 day ago Hmm... I have a question for you. Since this is directly related to new versions of the Linux kernel, why not use a older Linux kernel on older hardware? In my opinion, you often don't want to run the latest Linux distributions on old PC:s and therefor what they're doing here doesn't really matter unless they go back to older Linux kernels and starts to purge hardware support from them as well, which I doubt they would do. Would they? So what you're saying in this video is valid concerns and I can understand your frustrations, but there's a workaround especially for people who are able to still compile your own version of the kernel as well, although you would be forced to use a older one before these changes takes effect (to my understanding). Thank you!
@DustinKrejci 2 days ago I say leave the hardware alone when it comes to keyboards mice and wifi drivers that are stable. Where is a display delivers that the kernal needs? Who is going to refactor that? 1
@Fanalytics 11 hours ago Thanks for the update. Here's a question. What can you going to do about it? They don't have to do anything. It's a free service. Someone needs to put in some work to cater for this use case.
@GabrielM01 2 days ago 7.0 series kernel is the last one im using, iam freezing and not updating it anymore
@Biblically-Accurate-Clippy 42 minutes ago What a depressing time for me to decide to try and remember why I loved computers in the first place. 😒
@josepholsen9831 2 days ago It’s my opinion that Microslop, Amazon, etc. are hijacking Linux. Linux is what the clouds run on. Linux is what AI runs on. They have infiltrated the Linux development system in order to control it, shape it. AI datacenters are not going to run on Pentium IIIs. Servers don’t need keyboards, mice, etc., but they do only run on the latest processors. Also, it benefits MS to have Linux set for servers only so that home users will be locked into Windows. Linux is the closest it’s ever been to home desktop use. 1
@jakobw135 2 days ago Why not get rid of the AI which is causing these problems?!? Do users have a choice? 1
@OsmaniNoriega 10 hours ago Why not creating a new Linux branch or fork to continue supporting those devices?
@kamikarmy 22 hours ago I'm not familiar with this community but some folks need to touch grass. Saying a fork of Linux kernel is necessary because you don't like what's happening is... of little wisdom. Instead, become the maintainer of such drivers. Forking a kernel will be a lot more effort and you'll still need the maintainers for these drivers. I get people are venting, but step forward and put your money where your mouth is.
Otherwise, wishing for the kernel and drivers contributors to be fired is just counterproductive. The content creator isn't making any sense. Again, if you do have a driver with dropped support, send an email and volunteer. That won't make you money though with rage bait content.
@randomname3282 13 hours ago We need to fork the kernel
@isfk 1 day ago I've always known Linux to be more picky about what hardware it supports. I remember when it wouldn't support most modems, and most graphics cards, so this perspective is new to me. Seems like they want to get rid of those drivers because it would be easier to go 100% Rust.
@iqgustavo 1 day ago I USE hardware 20+ years old ! 😢
@RickeyJSimas 2 days ago "A couple of years ago - the early 2000's" bro that's 25 years ago. Can you believe if Windows 95 had driver support for devices from 1970?
@hnefatafl-org 1 day ago I currently think the best option for old hardware is an old version of Debian.
@brunoais 2 days ago I wonder what will happen when subsidised tokens stops.
@Timothy-W-Crane 2 days ago (edited) 'For the Kids' redoux... but what of the baby bots...?
@Veienn 1 day ago These stable drivers are still available to the users just removed from the kernel where they are a security vulnerability waiting to be exploited
@seahorsecorral 1 day ago I have a 24 year old Asus A7V880 still in daily use. My daily desktop is 13 year old ECS KBN-I/5200. It has already suffered from support fade, when attempting to upgrade from Mint 21 to Mint 22. Video not supported. The bit that annoys me is when I attempt to report bugs or problems, even something simple like exporting charts from Libreoffice. I keep getting told, upgrade to newest version, before reporting bugs. It is getting really hard to do that, and so, I can no longer export charts with labels. I keep partitions of old Debian Stretch just for doing some things. Before long, we will pine for the days of running simple OS like Apple II and Commodore, back when there were no upgrades needed.
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@seahorsecorral 1 day ago I have a 24 year old Asus A7V880 still in daily use. My daily desktop is 13 year old ECS KBN-I/5200. It has already suffered from support fade, when attempting to upgrade from Mint 21 to Mint 22. Video not supported. The bit that annoys me is when I attempt to report bugs or problems, even something simple like exporting charts from Libreoffice. I keep getting told, upgrade to newest version, before reporting bugs. It is getting really hard to do that, and so, I can no longer export charts with labels. I keep partitions of old Debian Stretch just for doing some things. Before long, we will pine for the days of running simple OS like Apple II and Commodore, back when there were no upgrades needed.
@DennisHolmberg-sl1hz 2 days ago It's been years since they all started dropping 32 bit Linux support. So this silliness started awhile back. AI is just the latest excuse.
@alan83251 1 day ago AI pushing us on all sides towards not owning our own hardware. High-end hardware is bought up by data centers, low-end hardware losing kernel support.
@Notsoknown-411 1 day ago Corpos and gov are destroying what they can't control/monetize
@Comm0ut 1 day ago May we have some insight into the REAL scope of the issue as in how many users will be genuinely affected?
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Anonymous2026-08-12 3:01
в4н 1 day ago это практически не прикрытый сговор с производителями железа, с целью предотвратить "повторное использование специализированного оборудования для майнинга в задачах искусственного интеллекта"
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Anonymous2026-08-12 3:01
205 v4n 1 day ago This is a barely disguised collusion with hardware manufacturers aimed at preventing the "reuse of specialized mining equipment for artificial intelligence tasks."
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Anonymous2026-08-12 3:02
@Edgard3939 1 day ago they're nuts!!! I even don't have a new PC, only a one from 1998 that my dad brought using with Linux, still saving for something used and cheap, and theses dumb devs with their delusional Llm telling them to just delete the problem instead of trying to fixing it are the worse
@user-mt4zr5kp7h 13 hours ago I see no problem with removing stuff this old. They're not removing it from existing kernels. Why does 20 year old hardware need a 2026 kernel update? That's just silly. All the guy's saying is, we need to find someone dedicated to maintain this, otherwise it's gotta come out. And he's right. You can't support the same hardware forever. You just can't. The kernel would be massive. Some things have to go to make room for newer stuff. If your computer's newer than 15 years old, you're never gonna have a problem. And you made the point yourself. They haven't needed to be updated for years and years and years. Yet you want the latest kernel to still support that old hardware? That doesn't make sense. You're wrong, bro. They're not going into legacy kurdles and removing it out of them. What they're doing is perfectly fine.😊
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@mediastreamview9528 2 days ago So create a custom kernel & dual boot it to avoid losing older hardware support.
What is stopping anyone from booting into their preferred kernel ?
@WolfyVoids 2 days ago When you look at it, it's for ancient hardware, like.. processors from 1989 and 99.
I know that it isn't an excellent thing to happen, but AI is poised to make modern (2026l hardware dangerous to use in a few years, so it's a miracle it's only happening to extremely old systems, most Linux users definitely don't use.
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@Handlemybandle 2 days ago couple years ago 2002 👴
@kokodin5895 7 hours ago honestly all those vintage drivers should be transplanted to a linkable external kernel module, so it stay separate from kernel and ai don't care about it, rustyfication of the code would not afect it. and if you belive in less loading drivers is faster computer, it could stay offline if you don't have hardware for it and you be happy too
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@gbmillergb 1 day ago Linux is digging its own grave.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 3:04
@23jfk 2 days ago Microsoftization of Linux.
@saksaelectronicsconsulting2023 16 hours ago (edited) Conspiracy theory hat on. Old Linux computers supported hardware that enabled plenty of electrical interfaces to the outside world locally and without going through internet or intranet. That ability enables internet-independent means of communication, amateur radio being one example, analog baseband modem, parallel and serial ports (direct, no USB).
Enter AI that messes with the drivers by finding "bugs". The kernel project then removes the drivers as a remedy. Hence no interfacing to outside world from old hardware. Force everybody under the inspective lens of Internet (capital I), AI, and you don't own your hardware -consumerism. Hats off.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 3:04
@23jfk 2 days ago Microsoftization of Linux.
@saksaelectronicsconsulting2023 16 hours ago (edited) Conspiracy theory hat on. Old Linux computers supported hardware that enabled plenty of electrical interfaces to the outside world locally and without going through internet or intranet. That ability enables internet-independent means of communication, amateur radio being one example, analog baseband modem, parallel and serial ports (direct, no USB).
Enter AI that messes with the drivers by finding "bugs". The kernel project then removes the drivers as a remedy. Hence no interfacing to outside world from old hardware. Force everybody under the inspective lens of Internet (capital I), AI, and you don't own your hardware -consumerism. Hats off.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 3:21
@JessterKing 1 day ago I've seen a few people talking about how they're trying to remove the ability of enthusiasts to build their own computers and force everyone to use a thin client type box to rent CPU, RAM, GPU ect in the cloud, in all these data centers they're trying to build. This issue seems to be another prong of that attack.
@doomshroom7682 1 day ago And Caesar wept
@brined_soul 1 day ago Linux might just be a very longterm variant of the old bait and switch.....
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Anonymous2026-08-12 3:22
@TheAlchaemist 4 hours ago HAM operator and retrocomputer enthusiast here... usually attending to hamfests and retro meetings, etc etc etc... Linux being able to support ancient protocols and equipment was its main appeal for us. Of course, we are 0.01% of users... and we'll end up using versions frozen. But we will be paying for a problem that we did not create, and the problem is not truly AI, but IDIOTS using AI...
@davemason2290 2 days ago I'll have to look at the Amateur Radio drivers that are being removed. If it affects me I'll unfortunately have to move to Windows.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 7:55
@N3G4T3 2 days ago My brother has a new wireless card that worked fine, but now doesn't.
@Josh-Kelm 2 days ago Computing is over because idiocracy can't keep the lights on, and we won't have electricity in 5 years. 2
@etherallax 2 days ago Good Linux
@Ivan-pr7ku 2 days ago Hardware moat comes for Linux.
@dansabo3562 6 hours ago Blank_Dan’s First Rule of Deleting Code: When you delete code you are doing God’s work. 1
@dansabo3562 6 hours ago Every line of deleted code has no bugs. Takes zero seconds to compile. Zero tests to write. Zero minutes to review. You are as wrong as you can possibly be.
@jose_lucio_br 2 days ago This is hour of BSD...
@brianschuetz2614 1 day ago (edited) A friend of mine had an old laptop that he gave to another friend, but it was too sluggish for Windows, so I installed MX Linux on it with a window manager. Breathed new life into it. If they keep this up, that will become a thing of the past.
As someone said, maybe the kernel should be forked. One fork for modern hardware and another to support older tech. Stable. Rust free. AI free. Modified only when an actual problem is identified. 1
@anotherelvis 1 day ago (edited) Alternatively some of the old insecure divers should be maintained out of the Linux tree, until the bugs have been fixed.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 7:56
@lexlayabout5757 2 days ago My keyboard is 40 years old.
@docchocobo 2 days ago Shows you how idiotic even supposedly smart people are getting these days. This goes against everything I was taught in programming. If the code works and it works well and it doesn't do anything it's not supposed to do then why mess with it? That's called Reinventing the wheel if it works don't touch it 1
@n7565j 2 days ago Linux is starting to sound like Microsoft... MS has been hoping for a reason to "help" make Linux less useful... Guess this is it!
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Anonymous2026-08-12 7:56
@HBT.Dallian 2 days ago Just because my car is not as efficient as more modern cars, that it can not reach the same speed does not mean that it can no longer take me places. A tool is usueful as long as it can do the job. Does not matter if it is 50 years old.
@rockmanx2002 2 days ago AI zealots: "Remove all legacy hardware support and hardware from any and all platforms to appease our new AI overlords" Me: "You will pry my Commodore 64 out of my cold, dead hands."
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Anonymous2026-08-12 7:57
@societefaitfaillite445 1 day ago (edited) hardware taxes was business model of microsoft why linux can't copy the strategy, requesting manufacturer to pay taxes so Ai might maintain the driver. it is totally fair for linus to want to cash in he was clear he didn't like stallman's vision for GPLv3 that would force google to show it's code for free. linus post 2008 beleives money makes for better code
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Anonymous2026-08-12 7:58
@jj49er 2 days ago Things used to be passed down from generation to generation. Now they want you to throw everything sway after a couple years.
@IdeA-InformaticaDeAvanzada 15 hours ago (edited) Just take a look at the MAIN sponsors of the Linux Foundation and you will understand the Trojan Horse that is moving this into this direction.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 7:59
@BSzili 1 day ago You might say supporting 35 year hardware doesn't have much use outside hobbyist projects, but you'd be surprised how viable 20 year old hardware can be as a daily driver. Sure it's going to be slow, but you can even watch YouTube videos on it. Yet what does the Linux Kernel team do at the height of new hardware getting really expensive due to AI? They drop support for more and more old hardware. 6 1
@_mend4mad_11 21 hours ago 386 is not 20 years old... Its 40-50 years old, it literally 70-80s computers. And yes, you can watch youtube on them, but prolly 360p-720p max 25-30fps, depending on what you have. 2004 era hardware is 64bit, more like x86_64. it can load latest linux kernel. Its athlon AMD cpu era, man.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 8:00
@Kerpymon 1 day ago Linux is great, linux is awesome. Thats something I definitely said in 2004. The past few years...not so much. 4 1
@zacharysandberg 1 day ago I was running FreeBSD and Linux in 2004. Both were awesome back then. Modern Linux feels nothing like the good old days
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Anonymous2026-08-12 8:00
@Kerpymon 1 day ago Linux is great, linux is awesome. Thats something I definitely said in 2004. The past few years...not so much. 4 1
@zacharysandberg 1 day ago I was running FreeBSD and Linux in 2004. Both were awesome back then. Modern Linux feels nothing like the good old days
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Anonymous2026-08-12 8:48
@BetterWorse-ge6ci 2 days ago (edited) The VAST majority of what LLMs put out is garbage... 'hallucination', not actually anything meaningful.
LOL AMATEUR RADIO. Of course, something so incredibly important if SHTF is being (soft) turned off. How political. 1
@professionalelectronics3158 1 day ago The reason i use linux over BSD because of the hardware support.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 8:49
@oldowleye3161 2 days ago Or how big tech gains more control on the hardware and distroys linux once and for all - big tech are criminals and linus tordvals got on there side
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Anonymous2026-08-12 8:50
2 days ago Much of this is probably planned by those behind the LLMs and their friends in the hardware cartel to sell more hardware.
@Enlighten-nah 2 days ago Because the real life "Skynet" realize that humans can rely on linux backward compatibility to run offline or outside the network computers. Now they are forcing the Linux developers to sabotage that ability of the operating system.
@conto7032 21 hours ago Well IT IS BROKE if LLM found bug ... 3:40 Critical vulnerability can live in old code for decades and then we find out some bug like that can lead to remote access ...
@farneyman 2 days ago When Devs deliberately destroy usability with some bs excuse, then you know they are saboteurs. If Microsoft said 'we're removing backwards compatibility because... AI...' no one would believe it, and since many Linux devs immediately threw their support behind government surveillance age verification they deserve no benefit of the doubt.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 8:51
@vec4me 4 hours ago (edited) LLMs will eventually create operating systems on demand, it’s inevitable, but Linux is literally accelerating their fate by doing this… It’s self-destruction.
@x260houtori 2 days ago So now I'm afraid to update my Linux machine great.
@736939 16 hours ago They do the right thing, so many old devices but Linux overloaded with drivers 🤡 On some point, this is necessary to be done!
@geographicaloddity2 23 hours ago (edited) AI is the worst thing to happen to computing maybe ever. But maybe this is a feature to keep on Windows?
@WackyT08 18 hours ago Waiting for Linux to require a TPM chip.
@Minuteworld-s8x 2 days ago linux is dying. i was gonna use it come 2032 after windows 10 ltsc but it seems like it won't even last till then
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Anonymous2026-08-12 8:52
@Minuteworld-s8x 2 days ago linux is dying. i was gonna use it come 2032 after windows 10 ltsc but it seems like it won't even last till then. 1 1
@0x07AD 2 days ago Move to a BSD. It supports binary Linux applications.
AI is trash. 1
@deniskhafizov6827 2 days ago 3c905x is one of the most generic NIC drivers I can imagine, and an immensely popular in 90x corresponding network card. Dropping it is a crime against compatibility
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Anonymous2026-08-12 8:53
@tryscience 1 day ago Sounds like someone is trying to sabotage Linux adoption by submitting these bug reports. The less hardware is supported, the fewer users will adopt it.
@michaelhubbard623 1 day ago this is all stuff i use. the old science stuff cant dissapear. if you can hack it you do need to find a way for it to be safe.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 8:53
@damnfunnychicken 2 days ago so in other words big tech companies figured people would circumvent their cirlcejerk and get modern software running with old hardware ...ie x9dri-f w p100 setup or alike to get by somehow in this ai boom. they dont deserve another penny. theyre going with shady laws for their "rights" do destroy your neighborhood in the name of datacenters, give people a RIDICULOUS almost unmeasurable ammount of ai for far to much money while keeping the sea getting sucked dry for their personal ai which is the main reason for those giant tech centers. theyre nodes. and ones everything is set up, the steering starts. youll understand in time -.- ...when its to late. u know the sayin in the land of the blind the guy with one eye...is in hell surrounded by mor0n
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Anonymous2026-08-12 8:54
@trionghost 2 days ago The time has come to fork the kernel. Make Inux without "L", which will be based on last kernel without this *hit.
@dougphillips5686 1 day ago going back to freebsd
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Anonymous2026-08-12 8:55
@ivanpaulostome2895 1 day ago (edited) Governments worldwide start to "dominate" (or exterminate) free coders, bargaining with them to develop leftist closed source blobs toward population (Public Software) inside free software. The proof is that: the majority of "public" developments are made in "public" universities. Hardware pays a lot of taxes, so they start to develop codes with some specific "needs", and governments start asking Linux users to comply with "peeping tom" free offerings. At the other side, what is maintaining retro communities, are easy to find drivers for old disconnected Windows. Older tools such as Borland are becoming more and more popular nowadays. AI is trying to find hardware flaws that are deemed as "unfixable" to converge government oligarchs and hardware makers interests into a proprietary Linux called "Public Software". Neo rich "Free Software Shiites" (with government ties) against "underpowered pragmatics": Less repos, and less free software culture (less discussions).
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Anonymous2026-08-12 22:00
@bradleypariah 7 hours ago I have been using a MacBook Pro 2012/2013 for Linux since literally 2012/2013. Ever since kernel 7 came out, support for my Broadcom chip was basically dropped, and it became impossible to get stable Wi-Fi on any modern version of Debian, Ubuntu, or Fedora. Luckily, there are board adapters and Intel chips online for cheap, so I swapped my NIC out, but I was really taken aback by my hardware just being forgotten like that. Yeah, I know, my laptop is 13 years old. It's got an i7, 16GB of RAM, and an 512GB nVME SSD. How is that not enough for most people, you know?? Why would a machine like that not be supported?
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Anonymous2026-08-13 0:18
@karlhoffman9817 9 hours ago I remember in 2024 linux community discussed what will happen if Linus retire or die. Well FOSS Linus is dead and instead we have corporate Linus now. The rust support, there was a previous wave of code removal before... It also indicate that monolithic kernel is facing challenges, probably HURD will replace Linux, some distros already adopting
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Anonymous2026-08-13 0:18
@WolfgangKovach 9 hours ago In my country, new hardware is extremely expensive. I started using Linux years ago only because Windows 10 was not compatible with my hardware. 27
@tgheretford 10 hours ago Forcing people to upgrade because of AI at the same time we can't afford to upgrade because of AI.
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Anonymous2026-08-13 0:19
@chimichuflis 8 hours ago this is completly true, i have an old dell computer, and had to install w10 on it, cause current linux was not compatible with the video card at all, couldnt find a good way to make it work, switched to an older version of debian, and it worked but flatpak couldnt work properly on older debian versions, so i just gave up, it made me lost a whole day just messing arround with it
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Anonymous2026-08-13 1:16
@r.l.royalljr.3905 9 hours ago If anything, Linux Foundation is using AI as a cover for these actions instead of a justification. AI doesn't just reveal bugs in old libraries - it also helps you figure out how to mitigate them. If AI is surfacing more and more issues with old hardware drivers, why should I accept the conclusion of "we should get rid of these drivers" instead of "now that we know there's a problem, we should use AI to fix these drivers"?
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Anonymous2026-08-13 1:18
@TheAstrospace2 11 hours ago It's coming to the point where I would rather use Windows XP x64 bit edition with OneCoreAPI than modern linux at this point. 28 3
@GregoryAlbright-t3p 10 hours ago Oh look anti ai is just the same dorks who complain about everything complaining about this as well. 1 1
@uksuperrascal 9 hours ago LIKE 23 Try Tiny Core Linux 2
@James-l5s7k 5 hours ago @GregoryAlbright-t3p So you can't take real criticism so you seek to other your opponent. That's pretty evil and small minded of you.
No argument, no principles, just acting in a subhuman manner.
Typical of your kind!
I am now going to write a beautiful pascal program that writes "RUST SUCKS" :
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Anonymous2026-08-13 1:18
@James-l5s7k 5 hours ago @GregoryAlbright-t3p So you can't take real criticism so you seek to other your opponent. That's pretty evil and small minded of you.
No argument, no principles, just acting in a subhuman manner.
Typical of your kind!
I am now going to write a beautiful pascal program that writes "RUST SUCKS" :D 4
@yumbumgardner2394 5 hours ago It's time for Linux to be forked. 3
@snoflahke6575 10 hours ago he linux kernel is actively being demoted to 2nd lieutenant
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Anonymous2026-08-13 1:19
@James-l5s7k 5 hours ago When I was little, I always wondered who this kernel was...... and why wasn't he a general?
@Rakaziel 6 hours ago (edited) So the lefties have kicked out the people who actually know what they are doing and trying to substitute skill with
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Anonymous2026-08-13 1:20
@spectr-t4b 10 hours ago (edited) Soon Linux requirements would be higher than Windows 11. It will mark a real "year of Linux" !😅🤣😂 21 1
@uksuperrascal 9 hours ago Try Tiny Core Linux 1
@xsyetopz 9 hours ago It’s time for BSD to shine!
Or just go to T/2 Linux. 2
@anthonywalker6268 9 hours ago We all know he's talking about Brodie. 2
@supermanlw 10 hours ago Speaking practically, as they remove hardware support, what is the service lifecycle? Will the new hardware today have 10 years of long term support? Will support only last for 2 years if AI says it doesn't like it? 3
@alxkub 10 hours ago AI overlords don't want you to use your old hardware. 16
@paleopteryx 11 hours ago Maybe supporting the trans movement is getting more important for them than supporting old hardware. 105 24
@sxkb 10 hours ago Both are important but neither excludes each other. Also, please do not conflate pink-washing with support 2 9
@1984Variant 10 hours ago @sxkb what does supporting an ideology have to do with selling/upkeeping a product? 18 2
@herpderpinson6117 10 hours ago @1984Variant Spending effort on trumpeting a social meta astroturfed by the Mossad means less attention paid to CVEs being discovered by the Mossad. 7 1
@KenLou 10 hours ago The trans movement is all about getting rid of hardware. 27 6
@MarquisDeSang 9 hours ago Linux is the new Windows ans Temple OS is the new Linux 3
@Paul-A01 9 hours ago @sxkbdo you think their statements about lgbt issues are insincere? 2 5
@ashishkhatri2771 9 hours ago (edited) I like how all the conservatives have been proven right about how evil this cause is, 15 years later almost everyone agrees. It's even affecting quality of software. 14
@awesomeprograms4433 9 hours ago I'm a trans person, and I NOT endorse any of this. Please don't lump us together with a bunch of hacks. 2
@akulkis 9 hours ago ...than supporting ALREADY SUPPORTED hardware. 2
@uksuperrascal 9 hours ago LIKE 59 1
@sxkb 9 hours ago @Paul-A01 Yes. They companies are always plastering rainbow flags on products to convince us (the LGBT) to buy them. This is no different 4 4
@caela-uk 9 hours ago The two are entirely unrelated, what the hell g 😭🙏
@caela-uk 9 hours ago @KenLou where have you learned this from? 5
@sxkb 9 hours ago @herpderpinson6117 What does the Mossad have to do with the Linux Kernel?
@Paul-A01 8 hours ago @sxkbthat doesn't mean they don't believe in it. Do you have any reason to think they don't? 2 3
@kuronoch.1441 7 hours ago (edited) @Paul-A01Their authoritarian actions. Call me crazy but I can see a parallelism between what they are doing and what the Catholics are doing in the Middle Ages, things which they claim to despise. Some of them might be a little too devout in their ideology, which should be anathema for them as claiming to be progressives, but some of them are using their ideology and identity as both a status symbol and a cudgel at the same time to punish those they claim to be veering even slightly away from their orthodoxy, which, again, should be anathema. 1
@sxkb 6 hours ago @Paul-A01 Actions speak louder than words
@anderxale1 6 hours ago @caela-uk It's a poor taste joke about gender-affirming surgery 4
@lamikal2515 5 hours ago @anderxale1 You can accuse him of making bad jokes, but you can't call him a liar. 2 3
@anderxale1 5 hours ago (edited) @lamikal2515 mmm nobody claimed "liar"... and some add hardware. It's just a bad joke in poor taste, not a lie but also not true.
I'm just defining it. I'm not against or for it. "Who cares" is my take 1 2
@lamikal2515 4 hours ago @anderxale1 Truth is litteraly binary. Something is either true, or false. 2
@anderxale1 4 hours ago (edited) @lamikal2515 In terms of booleans you are correct. Human truth isn't so simple. Lying at times has truths, and truths at times have lies. It's the basis of comedy 1
@sloppyy 4 hours ago you guys are obsessed with us 1
@lilben4184 4 hours ago @kuronoch.1441 W medieval Catholicism. stop trying to make me like transformers 1
@Mr.Riojas 7 hours ago AI is clearly making Linux developers stupid
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Anonymous2026-08-13 4:50
@Mrclean308 11 hours ago Exceptional people create awesome things, then if it becomes popular, normal people will take the controls and ruin it. The cycle continues. Unfortunately the awesome can't last forever
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Anonymous2026-08-13 4:50
@tikkasen_urakointi 8 hours ago It seems to me that those now removed device drivers weren't actively "supported" to begin with. They were left in the codebase as is, and they worked because driver code doesn't need to be changed that often. And now someone came up with a stupid reason to remove them. 1
@raidenab4260 10 hours ago (edited) I wonder how long it will be before AI deems TPM 2 (or 3) and/or other specifications mandatory for running Linux. That wretched Secure Boot is already implemented... I hope we don't end up wishing for Windows... 1 1
@grumpybeemer8637 3 hours ago Haiku is looking better and better
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Anonymous2026-08-13 4:51
@weremax 10 hours ago The Foundations have been infiltrated and corrupted. Time for a new revolution
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Anonymous2026-08-13 6:32
@Stabington 12 minutes ago Maybe this is the time to sort out the increasingly glaring issue that a monolithic kernel, may not be the way. It is actually getting a bit bloated. I recently booted up my 15 year old T420, trying different OS. Threw bare bones Devuan on it, ran 'free -h', and over 250 MB RAM used in a tty1 terminal! Windows XP use less than 100 MB on a graphical desktop. Does it have to be like this?
@30cheesepizzas51 11 hours ago Really surprising considering how popular retro computers have become. 1
@Josh-Kelm 16 hours ago Just use an old version of Mint. There is an old PC I have that would only take Mint 20 or less for some reason, and I mean 21 literally wouldn't install. Keep some old distro ISOs around. Don't rely on the latest always.
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Anonymous2026-08-13 6:36
@someusername1 10 hours ago I think this is an inevitable corollary of the combination of technological progress, the weight of historical development, and (ironically) the success of Linux (especially commercial success).
(As well as to some extent the essentially kernel-bound nature of Linux drivers. I.e. It is in part a technological structure issue).
There was always going to come a time when there was just too much to maintain, when it became too top-heavy, and this would be true no matter how Linux was funded and no matter that LLMs are here now.
But this is also a sign of who is paying the bills. Linux has long since ceased to be a hobby; it's now big business. It's mainly hobbyists who want the old drivers in there but the hobbyists can't afford to pay the bills and mostly can't maintain the code themselves. Again, the broad success of Linux means that hobbyist users are not necessarily hobbyist kernel coders who can maintain code.
Let's just face it: Modern, up to date Linux is lost to hobbyists running old kit. That's gone. That ship has sailed already. LLM AIs are forcing the issue, but it was happening anyway. It was always inevitable once Linux hit commercial success.
But it's not all doom and gloom: Hobbyist use of Linux is not dead. For the use case of most hobby projects there is no harm whatsoever in running old kernels. So what if it's not new and shiny? It's old kit anyway.
Also, the fork word applies here. I can see a time where Linux as we currently know it splinters, where we can no longer think of a singular mainline Linux kernel.
It is entirely possible that we might end up with (1) a commercial, bang up to date kernel (i.e. what is currently the mainline kernel), and (2) one or more 'traditional' kernels that do keep old drivers and have a different, non-commercial ethos, that do support old hardware, and which could in time possibly significantly diverge from mainline commercial Linux. They could be called some else entirely.
Linux (the mainline commercial 'core') would by that time have become near-proprietary, despite presumably still being GPL. Interesting future, isn't it.
Linux as we know it is dead. Long live Linux. (And the BSDs, and even illumos, and the Linuxes of tomorrow that are developing gradually and more quietly).
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@OmnisR 10 hours ago Need a kernel with up to date security patches specifically for old devices
@bimotok757 14 hours ago There are many Linux distro. I used Buildroot Linux on ARM processor single core 300 MHz, 128 MB storage, and 64 MB RAM for embedded system.
@DustinKrejci 1 hour ago is any one wanting to cofound a new os with me ?
@qnbits 6 hours ago I want to install Debian Potato on an old desktop to use the parallel port as a GPIO with python pyparallel.
@glensumner3425 8 hours ago I installed ubuntu more than 20 years ago on what was then an old machine, I've been doing it for years it is kind what linux has been about. givun up windows ( I have a vm for a few things its never on). Old machines and new they all work the same and old needs not to be thrown away why should it?
@stam_ehad 10 hours ago Kinda sad, My first experience with Linux was installing it on eeepc to get some performance out of it
@fredmckinney8933 11 hours ago (edited) Wow...just wow! I can't believe how Linux is now aiming for MEDIOCRITY! Time to fork Linux, looks like. BTW, I consider AI to be OF THE DEVIL and possibly be the Antichrist itself. 1
@ligerstripe99 7 hours ago Here is what you do since you have money. 1. fork the kernel version from just before the first removal. 2. back-port all other changes, minus the removal. This can be automated.
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Anonymous2026-08-13 6:39
@ligerstripe99 7 hours ago Here is what you do since you have money. 1. fork the kernel version from just before the first removal. 2. back-port all other changes, minus the removal. This can be automated. 3. post it as linux-libre. 4. use your money to pay for bug hunters. 1
@michaelsanchez1361 5 hours ago linux-libre already exists
@JoshOsRocks 6 hours ago I can't even get fedora 44 live environment to load in a vm
@Dinscurge 4 hours ago not really directly related, but hopefully im wrong and ai isnt an ongoing disaster in general for the human race, but atleast in my not that boomer of a lifetime i have seen even fully developed(more or less) adult people fall into simple traps of using some new tool as a crutch and they become significantly less ingenious, like get into 3d printing or cnc and then that proverb if you're a hammer every problem looks like a nail hits, and they forget you can do other types of fabrication like welding bending forming. i mean schooling in general seems to be becoming a disaster if you were to say theres no geopolitical/socio-economic happenings and everything else was the same, how could kids possibly have degrading literacy or basic arithmetic when they have increased access to research materials/help different techniques, easier access to figure out things like if they were dyslexic or if they are nearsighted and the teacher has them sitting too far back and they cant see good to read. that maybe there was something to that you might not always have a calculator thing, where people just google the problem they are having and its got that purple ive clicked the link before highlight because their memory recall is such a state they just look up the thing they need when they need it and theres no point to remember it at all. least i recall there was countries going towards banning tablets and stuff in gradeschools going back to pencil and paper. or for more goal or results based learners, like say for me i didnt start to practice programming for the sake of doing it, i had things i wanted to do in a way that other people werent doing, if you have to learn a skill to finish a project, that project could get you to learn something you otherwise wouldnt have, if you have a tool that can just do it well enough for you, why learn that skill? how many people started doing things because they had to not for the sake of doing it? i mean how does one know they want to do something for the sake of doing it if they have never done it in the first place? that i think alot of people are gonna get just rekt by being able to hit the gimmie the thing i wanted instantly button, instead of having to deal with the more harsh reality of having to suck at something and do it with great repetition until they get proficient enough to do the things they want to do, not just that one skill, but the maturity the learning experience in general about yourself and the world, how dedication perseverance work, what people mean when they say someone is a hard worker or has good work ethic, time/project management, how things work, how long it takes to do things, how long it takes to learn things, you can start to get ideas about things and yourself
@stony4321 9 hours ago To bad that was nice to keep a old machine running it instead of throwing it away. I guss I'll have to use net bsd for that.
@billchatfield3064 5 hours ago These changes are because young people who don't understand why we are where we are, are making bad decisions. They're determined to repeat the mistakes of the past, just like antivaxxers.
@N.A._McBee 16 hours ago (edited) Linux is about to die. All things in life come in phases, and Linux is phasing out. Let's concentrate on the other options like BSD variants and similar-minded projects. Linus and Greg do not understand yet, that they are going to destroy the groundwork of Linux. The Times They Are a-Changin :) 24 6
@crapmalls 16 hours ago Does BSD run steam? 4 1
@boyscout399 15 hours ago I think you overestimate the desire to keep 20+ year old hardware running. If including that device driver opens a security hole in the operating system that no one cares to fix, i'd rather have everyone be secure than support a certain 30 year old mouse. 2 3
@borlibaer 15 hours ago @crapmalls😂
@silentJET85 15 hours ago @boyscout399 Including such a driver wouldn't affect anyone who isn't using that hardware. 1 2
@boyscout399 15 hours ago @silentJET85 you say that very confidently. that's probably the case in the majority of the bugs, but some of them might open holes even if not actively being used. 1 1
@chrilinledi6943 15 hours ago not using computer will make it super secure. why don't everyone do it however? 3
@rainmannoodles 5 hours ago Linux kernel in 2026: ✅ Rusty Clankers
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Anonymous2026-08-13 6:40
@jakobw135 11 hours ago Didn’t Linus Torvalds embrace AI? So what does he say now based on what you just revealed? Isn’t the point of Linux to run on almost ALL hardware out there? So WHY are normal people allowing this to happen?
@ruthlessadmin 15 hours ago Can't the old drivers be made available separately and still be compiled in optionally, or as modules? I can understand cleaning up the main code base, but completely removing old, stable hardware support seems asinine. In any case, how does stable code that doesn't need to be touched, affect a developer's productivity, with or without AI? 1
@barbodrz8645 13 hours ago All of the drivers ware part of the monolithic kernel in Linux but since it's not a micro kernel it won't be separate at. Examples for monolithic kernels Linux and Darwin for macos I think and I think nt for windows and micro kernels are hurd kernel from gnu and minix I think which you gotta fact check some of these but many kernels in use are monolithic ones right and are being updated more often
@User-sj1pl 12 hours ago Use another distro then? This is how open source software works.
@Vita-Linux 8 hours ago Just go to BSD, that's what i will have to do at the end, when Arch completely screw things up, after that Void which is already woke, could get worse than what it is, and if Void is not even an option, damn.. i guess go back to Windows and dualbooting with BSD, linux was great, i discovered it for the first time in late 2021, but after just a few years it completely went off the rails
@SarcasticTofu 6 hours ago It's high time to make a hard fork Linux using the very last Rust free AI free version of Linux Kernel 6.0.19.. Linux seems to be a dead system.. lets fork it and call it something like AliveSys or UAlive (Unix Alive).. just like XLibre has been forked and SonicDE has just born.. then we can add newer hardware support slowly.. The AliveSys should exclusively RUST and WOKE free
