@badmoth242xl3 1 year ago Actually, I disagree regarding the origin of the Los Angeles Detonations.
For one, despite being relatively tightly packed, for a countervalue strike on an urban center they are rather dispersed. In order to achieve an adequate Damage Expectancy (DE) on a soft target like a city, 5-10psi is generally the ballpark that strike planners use in order to cause medium damage. The detonations here appear to be too far apart for it to have that level of DE across the entire city. It could potentially be explained by the US degrading China's nuclear capability by conventional means, however after over a century of unconstrained nuclear buildup I doubt that Chinese planners would even begin to transfer warheads slated for Los Angeles against other targets.
I disagree that it's a MIRV. Rather, I believe the missile carrying these warheads was only equipped with a MRV, the MIRV's unguided predecessor. Given the POD for the Fallout universe occurs in the early 1950s before the development of the Minuteman Missile and the world is less digitally advanced, the payload busses for the missiles in Fallout may simply lack the ability to independently target their warheads. The Chinese SLBMs may be less like a Trident and more like a Polaris A3. Regarding the Polaris A3, it initially carried a unitary 600kt W47 warhead for the A1-A2 variants, but adopted a trio of 200kt W58 warheads in the A3 model. This resulted in an overall increase in total DE, since the trio of detonations would be roughly equivalent to a single 1MT detonation, but with the added benefit of being more survivable against Ballistic Missile Defense systems. However, this came at a significant cost to the missile's CEP, relegating it only for use against countervalue targets.
Consequently, this explains the timing, yield, and dispersion of the detonations better than with a MIRV. With a MIRV, the detonations would have been much more tightly packed, and there would've been less time between the detonations assuming such a dispersion profile. Fallout's nukes are already small, but the need to cram multiple (presumably pure fission) warheads in a single missile would have reduced the yield even further, hence the detonation yield shown.
One other thing too, the fact that Los Angeles and most other US cities were hit by SLBMs rather than by bombers (be it gravity bombs or standoff missiles), suggests that China had little confidence in the ability of their bombers to successfully penetrate US airspace. Prior to the adoption of later SLBMs that enabled Boomers to engage in hard-target Counterforce operations, SLBMs were meant to be used against soft targets in a second-strike role. The comparatively less advanced technology in Fallout might mean that this remained true up until 2077. This either implies that the US had either already degraded China's ICBM force via conventional or nuclear attack and this is the Chinese second strike, or China threw everything into a single "Sunday Punch" that left little nuclear forces in reserve. 3
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Gyrgir • 9mo ago
Based on a discussion I had many years back on the subject with a nuclear engineer, the main limiting factor in building arbitrarily large multistage Teller-Ulam bombs is the extreme difficulty of modelling designs, as the dominant activity that needs modelling is turbulent radiation hydrodynamics, and turbulent hydrodynamics without radiation is already a major unsolved research problem which is suspected to be potentially unsolvable.
He went on to say that you can probably develop designs empirically by testing them and analyzing the data, but he expressed a preference that any such tests be conducted on a planet he doesn't live on.
That said, he thinks the practical limit, without additional testing and given full access to detailed info from the Tsar Bomba test, would probably be around 500 MT, about 5x the projected yield of the Tsar Bomba design had the Soviets included the U-238 tamper (an additional fission stage which was left out of the test bomb to reduce fallout). 21 Pristine-Bridge8129 • 9mo ago
Thank you for this fascinating insight. 2 weeOriginal • 9mo ago
Interesting! How much larger is each stage than the previous? Typically, I mean. 3 u/Phssthp0kThePak avatar Phssthp0kThePak • 9mo ago
That is such a great book. 2 Famous-Opposite8958 • 9mo ago
I read a book years ago in which a scientist pointed out that after a certain point, all one would accomplish with a bigger bomb is to propel a section of atmosphere above the bomb faster and faster into space. I may be mistaken but I recall that the “practical” limit to be around 100MT.
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The Tsar Bomba design was for a fission bomb, but only the fusion stage was tested.
It is probably helpful to explain the various types of nuclear weapons, and how they work. Spoiler alert: there are no pure fission of pure fusion bombs ay more; and this is no longer a useful classification.
Fission Bombs
The first three atomic bombs - detonated at Los Alamos, Hiroshima and Nagasaki - were pure fission devices, as were all nuclear weapons until the mid 1950s.
In the early 1950s, computer simulation showed that a mixture of tritium (an isotope of hydrogen) and lithium could be “fused” by the heat and pressure a fission bomb.
This created two new classes of nuclear weapons:
Enhanced Fission bombs
A very small amount of tritium and lithium massively increases the yield of fission bombs. It does this by increasing the percentage of the Uranium or Plutonium that fissions - up from less than 20% of the Plutonium to almost 100% of it fissioning, a 5 or 10 times bigger bang. Almost zero of this is directly from the fusion reaction, what the fusion reaction does is expose the Plutonium to very high speed neutrons which can trigger lots of fission events.
So these could still be considered fission bombs, even though they rely on fusion in their operation.
Fission-fusion bombs, aka “Hydrogen” bombs
If instead of just adding a little tritium and lithium to enhance the fission reaction, you add lots, so the energy it releases is much more than the fission stage, you get a Hydrogen bomb. These can be easily tuned to different yields by moving the fusion products closer to or further away from the fission stage.
The first test of this idea was at Bikini atoll, and the blast was double that which had been predicted. Whoops.
Fission-fusion-fission bombs
Now we get to the Tsar Bomba. It turns out that the fast neutrons emitted by fusion reactions can not only split plutonium atoms, they can cause good old uranium 238 - depleted uranium, cheap as chips - to fission. So the plan was to build a huge Hydrogen bomb, then wrap the entire thing in tons of depleted uranium. Used this way, it is a giant “enhanced fission bomb”; the purpose of the fusion stage is to supply the neutrons for the DU to fission, which would produce the bulk of the energy.
But the Russians chickened out. They covered the outside with several tons of lead, rather than uranium. So the actual test explosion was only that of the largest ever hydrogen bomb - 50 megatons. After the miscalculation at Bikini Atoll, they concluded that detonating a bomb with a predicted yield of maybe 200 megatons which could potentially be 500 megatons spraying tons of fallout into the upper atmosphere probably wasn’t a great idea.
TL;DR
Technically, the actual Tsar Bomba was a regular H bomb, but the concept they were testing was a fission-fusion-fission bomb, which technically is an enhanced fission device.
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Assuming you mean an unboosted weapon (since boosting does involve some fusion, even though the direct contribution of the D-T fusion energy to total yield of a boosted fission weapon is usually very very small), I suspect it might be the US’ 160 kT Mk 6. I can’t find a definitive statement whether the 500 kT Mk 18 was or was not boosted (the 700 kT Orange Herald definitely was).
edit - see better answer from Evan Bell[1]; Ivy Mike/Mk 18 was not boosted.
[1] Profile photo for Evan Bell Evan Bell · 2y What is the most powerful fission nuke? I've checked Google but it keeps telling me Tsar Bomba but that's a fusion one. Mk-18 Super Oralloy Bomb, tested in Operation Ivy, shot Mike, reported as 500 or 540kt. There's also Orange Herald, 720kt boosted fission device. The highest yield single stage device. The fusion burn is thought to have failed in this shot, so it may have been a pure fission explosion, but it's not known for certain. Profile photo for Ernest Montague Ernest Montague NopeAuthor has 8.6K answers and 6.8M answer views · 2y
That would be Ted Taylor’s device, IIRC around 700 kilotons. Ted was the most prolific and brightest of the fission device designers.
Oops, wait. Orange Herald, a British device was 700 kt. Ivy King, Taylor’s device was 500kt. Ted said that he thought he could get a megaton out of a fission device. He also designed the smallest, the dial a yield backpack device. Profile photo for Evan Bell Evan Bell Several thousand hours of nuclear weapons research. Author has 964 answers and 300.1K answer views2y
Mk-18 Super Oralloy Bomb, tested in Operation Ivy, shot Mike, reported as 500 or 540kt.
There's also Orange Herald, 720kt boosted fission device. The highest yield single stage device. The fusion burn is thought to have failed in this shot, so it may have been a pure fission explosion, but it's not known for certain.
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I decided that I should finally finish my initial hypothesis about Edward Teller's Sundial and Gnomon this year, 2025. Christmas is a good occasion for such a gift, isn't it? :)
So. Last time (see the first part) I suggested that the Sundial itself is simply a very large (15 m in diameter) spherical tank filled with heavy water. I chose heavy water because Dyson mentioned it in a secret report from 1962 and because it is the most reasonable choice. Although, during the discussion, another, possibly decisive, argument emerged, which I initially overlooked. The density of deuterium in heavy water is 1.3 times higher than in liquid deuterium (in lithium deuteride, the density of deuterium is only a quarter, 1.25 times higher than in liquid deuterium). This, strangely enough, may turn out to be an important argument. Lately, I've been trying to do some numerical analysis, I even thought of posting it here before this message about the Gnomon, but I realized that I need to work on it some more, not rush things. But the overall picture is interesting. Not everything is as simple as I thought, but not everything is as terrible as it could be. In particular, I discovered that Edward Teller didn't need to achieve unlimited burning from the heavy water tank. A "amplification" mode (damped combustion of fuel) is possible, where the initial explosion of the Gnomon will be amplified 10 times by the uncompressed layer of heavy water. That is, the 10 Gt Sundial bomb would be a simple amplifier of the 1 Gt Gnomon core.
However, my calculations show that to ignite uncompressed heavy water (with an initial burnup of 80%, which is possible because the adjacent gigaton ignition device can provide such afterburning) at an ignition temperature of 8.9 keV, you would need an ignition device of ~600 Mt, and the burning would not be unlimited, but rather decaying, but with a gain factor "at infinity" of 9.8. With such a minimum ignition device, you could get up to 6 Gt. But if the ignition device in the center is made to be 1 Gt (as planned), then we are guaranteed to get 10 Gt by placing the Gnomon in the center of a spherical tank with the appropriate amount of heavy water.
So, everything now converges to a nuclear yield of 1 Gt for the Gnomon. How was this key part of the Sundial supposed to be constructed? This is where the whole intrigue of the investigation lies.
The idea that Edward Teller didn't overcomplicate things and simply proposed building a multi-stage Teller-Ulam scheme seemed completely pathetic and implausible to me from the very beginning. If I had even the slightest doubt about this, I wouldn't have participated in this investigation.
Yes, it could be done that way. You take a fission bomb of, for example, 100 kt, then with a "typical" interstage amplification of 100 times, you get a "dirty" 10 Mt on the second stage (W-53), then on the third stage, again, a "dirty" 1 Gt. Only three steps! Maybe you would need four stages, that is, a "matryoshka" of four bombs nested inside each other, but those are just details. The important thing is that it's real. Perhaps this is why Dyson, in a secret report from 1962, warned the US government that any nation capable of creating a 1 Mt bomb, that is, having mastered the secret of the Teller-Ulam design, could also figure out how to make a 10 Gt ocean mine and flood the US coast, covering their tracks and claiming they had nothing to do with it!
And indeed, look: the Russians, having just tested the RDS-37, were planning to achieve 1 Gt (1 kt/kg, a 1000-ton device) in precisely this simple way. But can you really compare our wonderful Hungarian "Martian" (the Great Lame One) Edward Teller with some unfortunate, barefoot and ragged, perpetually lagging behind Russians [deep irony]?
When Teller first proposed the concepts of the Sundial and Gnomon super-bombs in 1954, he couldn't have been offering such a simple, crude imitation. Teller knew that this wouldn't interest the peacemakers, who were firmly entrenched in their comfortable positions on the Atomic Energy Commission. He knew that the peacemakers would be horrified by the power of the bombs he envisioned, and that they would react negatively to his idea of such gigantic explosive devices, especially ones so ineptly and simply designed. He was already "at odds" with them and knew them inside and out. It would have been foolish to come forward with a simple set of ideas. And the Sundial was simple. Therefore, the Gnomon idea had to be sophisticated and complex, just like the recent Teller-Ulam scheme, which simply begged to be tested, which would captivate with its beauty and boldness! That was Teller's calculation (which failed).
So what was the Gnomon if not a simple three- or four-stage extension of the Teller-Ulam scheme?
We have two clues. Even three.
Firstly, in the available descriptions, it is mentioned that the device is single-stage. However, we don't quite understand what device is being referred to? Perhaps only the Sundial. Yes, it looks like a "Super" and it is a single stage. There is no compression stage. There is only an ignition stage. Instead of compression, there is simply a very large mass.
But what if the same applied to the Gnomon?
Here the second clue emerges. That "all this" (what exactly?) resembles a "Sloyka" or "Alarm Clock". A single-stage layered structure. Since there is no need for a layered structure in the heavy water tank itself (at least in our investigation so far) (although it cannot be completely ruled out), I am inclined to attribute the "layered structure" specifically to the Gnomon device.
So, the Gnomon is a single-stage layered structure of the "Alarm Clock" type.
And finally, the third clue that I (hopefully) recently found.
A strange phrase, a short paragraph in the transcript about "light cases".
Returning to the subject of light cases, Dr. Teller mentioned a "wild ideal" of using no case at all, just air. [.....]
Although the subreddit "fathers" did not share my enthusiasm, I stubbornly want to "add" this to the topic of Sundials and Gnomon, because this "wild idea" seemed to precede the report on super-bombs, and this topic itself was out of place there (if not explained further). I designated the "light case" (hohlraum casing) with the letter "B", the "air" (hohlraum space) with the letter C, A - primary, D - secondary, tamper. How to make it so that only "air" C remains and there is no "light case" B left? Surround the primary A with the tamper D. Topologically, there is simply no other solution for "no case at all, just air"! This is my deciphering of this mysterious "wild idea" of Edward Teller. And this puts everything in its place. The concept of the Gnomon is finally taking shape.
The Gnomon is a virtually non-scalable (non-reducible) layered spherical structure with a very large cavity at its center (I assumed a minimum of 2 meters in diameter, see the drawing) which houses the primary (and only, therefore the entire device is single-stage) source of nuclear energy: a bomb. Initially, I considered a two-stage thermonuclear bomb of at least a megaton for this role, but a simple calculation showed that if the initial temperature of the photon gas in this two-meter cavity is 2 keV, then a fission bomb of 84.2 kt would be sufficient (assuming that half of the energy is in the form of matter energy, and the other half, 42.1 kt, is in the form of photon gas). If, of course, we need a temperature of 5 keV, then a 3.3 megaton ignition device would be required (which somewhat detracts from the elegance of the idea). As soon as the central initiator explodes, the photon gas begins to press on the spherical wall of the cavity (there is no "radiation case"!) and compress the first layer of the "Sloyka".
And this is where the first difficulties begin. On the right in the picture, I showed the stages of compression of a small section of the first layer, assuming that if everything works as it should with the first layer, then it will work with the second, third... and so on, as many layers as needed (I assumed 10 here).
In the diagram, I showed with numbers: 1 - the inner cavity (before the explosion of the central bomb), 2 - the first layer of U-238, the tamper and also the liner. 3 - a layer of lithium deuteride, 4 - the next layer of tamper (liner) from U-238. When the central bomb explodes, equilibrium is established in the hohlraum and the temperature of the photon gas is about 2 keV (I assumed that it might be more, up to 5 keV), and this leads to the well-known radiation ablation (number 5 and arrow), our tamper begins to move flat (actually outwards) compressing the deuterium layer (a shock wave arises, number 6). Reaching the opposite wall, the wave will reflect (and intensify, number 7) and thus, reflecting, the reflected wave will compress the fuel until the remaining part of the compressing tamper reaches 100-200 times compression of lithium deuteride (number 8). This is not drawn to scale, only the general idea. I assumed that if the diameter of the Gnomon is 7 meters, then the thickness of one compressed layer (7-2=5/2=2.5; 10 layers, one layer 25 cm, 5 cm - U-238, 20 cm - lithium deuteride) initially 200 mm should be compressed to 1 mm. And this is the MOST DIFFICULT part (the peak of complexity).
We have achieved compression (essentially flat compression, that's the idea). But how do we ignite it now? Here in the diagram, I've assumed the simplest, "naive" case, that the tamper burned through uniformly and completely (the Marshak wave caught up with the multiply reflected, oscillating shock wave in the deuterium layer) and thus simply ignited the already compressed layer of thermonuclear fuel (this is indicated by the number 9 in the diagram). If this is possible, we are the winners. Of course, we will need something like a tritium initiator here (DD ignites at 9 keV, and DT only at 2.4 keV). But these are just "minor details." It's worse if the "burning tamper" concept is untenable and we need some additional ignition mechanism, and that too across the entire compressed surface (the surface of a sphere with a radius of 1 meter and a thickness of 1 mm). I suspect that Taylor himself, when he first presented this proposal in 1954, didn't quite understand what mechanism should be used. Perhaps he had a whole set of possible solutions, and it was the search for and testing of this mechanism that he intended to carry out in his laboratory, for which he requested permission and a test plan from the high commission. To test not 1 Gt (that's madness) but the idea of flat compression. As we know from the Gnomon project, they worked for a little over a year, and there are a number of reports from which it follows that a large number of options were proposed. And I believe that all this work was aimed at implementing this flat compression in a small, experimental "flat" device (a whole series of different devices). They were looking for a mechanism for flat compression and ignition of a single layer from the compression side, which they would then implement in a huge device in the form of a "superlayer." Or they wouldn't implement it in practice, but they would possess the secret of a new, unique flat compression technology.
You cannot miniaturize this technology. In any case, it will be megatons. But if, during testing, you can flatten and ignite even just a fragment of a layer (let's say a megaton), then it becomes obvious that the same thing will happen with the next layer, and the next, in a large gigaton Gnomon... And this will happen as many times as you need! And no "light cases"! There are no cases here at all!
This is the alluring beauty of the idea that Edward Teller advertised to the respected commission of highly intelligent men. He was tempting them with "beautiful physics"! But the learned men said that Teller had completely gone mad with his gigaton projects!
However, the work wasn't actually banned. And for about a year, theoretical research on the topic continued. Did Teller find a loophole to implement the idea? We don't know. But perhaps that's not so important now. What's important is to understand what he wanted to do? It's important for us to admire the flight of thought. Right? And here, a captivating flight of thought, novelty, is clearly present!
In conclusion, I want to say that I would have continued to ponder this set of ideas for a long time if, a month ago, I hadn't accidentally stumbled upon a previously overlooked (or perhaps not immediately understood?) message from Carey Sublette, published here two years ago:
If you make an uncompressed fuel tank large enough it can be bigger than the mean free path of the photon anyway, accomplishing the same end as super-compression.
The problem with this is that you now have to heat an enormous volume to heat to very high temperature, requiring enormous amounts of energy for the igniter.
In 1955 anything they were attempting to design had to be something that did not require highly refined datasets or massive computation as they had neither. Like the great simplification of physics that the equilibrium burn of T-U provided, this had to be based on easy to calculate design principles.
Possibly this was something like a Sloika but with no external compression - an internal driving bomb compressing successive layers of fuel to high density as it expands outward. Each layer is larger in volume, providing more energy to compress the next even larger layer. In the very last layer the system radius, and accumulated explosion energy might be enough to drive an uncompressed fusion reaction.
That is, the scheme I described above was essentially described by Carey Sublette here two years ago. I'm simply following his line of thought! Therefore, it's time to bring this idea to light and try to refine its details!
reddit say 4mo ago Beneficial-Wasabi749 Reverse engineering of AN602. My version is 2025. r/nuclearweapons - Reverse engineering of AN602. My version is 2025.
The bomb was three-stage (not to be confused with three-phase), bifilar, meaning two "primaries" compressed one "secondary." The bomb's calculated yield was 51.5 megatons. 50 megatons is the "round" thermonuclear yield of the final spherical (the Russians didn't make any other kind at the time) third stage (half of 100 megatons; if you replace the lead tamper with a U-238 tamper, the bomb will become dirty and its yield will at least double). Therefore, 1.5 megatons is the "primary" stage. That is, the design interstage gain here is 50/1.5 = 33.3... times (quite common, no more than 50 times). Obviously, 1.5 megaton fission devices don't exist, so it would have been a thermonuclear device in any case (and thus the bomb had three stages). But since the device was bifilar, two 750 kt bombs were used instead of one 1.5 Mt bomb. This is discussed in one of Trutnev's interviews.
Let's calculate the main stage. Using the lithium deuteride density of 820 kg/m³ and the (very high) fuel burnup coefficient of 0.5, we obtain a lithium sphere diameter of 1.67 m. Considering the thickness of the tamper, hohlraum, and ballistic casing, all of several centimeters, we can assume a gap of 15 cm between the hohlraum wall and the sphere. Although proportionally to two meters, this seems small, it is sufficient. However, this was apparently the limit. If the fuel burnup in the final stage had been set to the usual 0.3 or 0.25, the device would not have produced the required yield.
When designing the device, I initially drew a simple hohlraum shaped like a "pill" (a cylinder with spherical ends), like the primary stages, but then decided to minimize its volume. The volume of the hohlraum as I've drawn it (two truncated cones, a central cylinder, minus the volume of a sphere, minus the two built-in bifilar "pills," excluding their rear hemispheres) is ~4 m³. At a power of 1.5 Mt (half of which will be in the form of photon gas), the photon gas temperature (E = 4 * sigma/c * T^4 * V) in such a hohlraum will be 18 million Kelvin, or 1.6 keV. This is very close to the temperature required for compression. If a higher temperature is needed (say, 2 keV), the hohlraum volume will have to be further reduced.
I also calculated the 750-kt bifilar charges, assuming these were "dirty" two-stage devices, where only 375 kt would be obtained from nuclear fusion (the rest from fission of a U-238 tamper, possibly enriched U-235). For these devices, I assumed a typical, modest burnup of 0.25 (1/4), and ultimately found that each "pellet" secondary contained 30 kg of lithium deuteride. This is a sphere with a diameter of 412 mm. Having measured the hohlraum shown, calculated its empty volume, and assumed the temperature in the small hohlraums to be the same as in the large one (1.6 keV), I obtained a photon gas energy of 3.5 kt, considering that this is only half (the rest is in matter), the total minimum yield of the primary is at least 7 kt. Thus, each of the two primary devices was 7-10 kt. This agrees well with the typical gain of 375/10 = 37.5. It's quite possible that the primary was actually more powerful, 10-15 kt.
Regarding the synchronization of two explosions for a bifilar design, if the fission devices have a neutron initiator in the form of a neutron gun (or betatron), then using electronics it's relatively simple to synchronize their pulses with nanosecond precision, thereby initiating the chain reaction in both devices simultaneously.
All spherical thermonuclear stages had a fission spark plug in the center. But in the case of a sphere, it takes up so little space that I didn't calculate a correction for their volume. I also showed very large shadow lenses, which ensured the sphere's shading from direct radiation rays that would appear (by the Marshak wave) on the surface of the primary hohlraums. Where were those famous lead rings that Sakharov added on his last night located? I can only guess, but I suspect this was an attempt to address the problem (concern) associated with radiation propagation in the main hohlraum. Please note. All lenses are positioned as close as possible to the primary source because they also act as an inertial buffer, slowing the expansion of the explosion plasma. It is claimed that the body of this "lens" barrier contains boron-10, which maximally attenuates the neutron flux.
Regarding the center of gravity. It's known that the AN602's center of gravity had to be shifted compared to the AN202. I assumed the shift was rearward because, despite the same general design, the AN202 used spherical bifilar primaries, while the AN202 used elongated thermonuclear "pellets." As a result, the hohlraum inevitably lengthened, shifting the center of the sphere rearward. The entire mass of the bomb shifted rearward toward the tail. And perhaps that's why the bomb's nose was slightly extended forward.
Another subtlety. People like to think that the nose sphere (I also drew it here), clearly depicted in the secret film, is one of the primaries. This can't be true (since it's under the double hohlraum). In the film, you see some kind of electronics unit (connected by cables to the nose antennas), made in the shape of a sphere. In the film (if you look closely), we see the preparation of an EMPTY bomb casing. I have little doubt of this. This is a typical technique of the Soviet multi-level secrecy system. The film was shot for clueless party officials. They could be shown the empty casing. And if the film gets to the West, they shouldn't see anything they shouldn't (the physical packaging of the device).
The main question: Was there some technological secret to the bomb, beyond its bifilarity, three stages, and enormous yield? At first glance, no. For example, the interstage gain factors are quite standard for the 1950s. The only thing that looks suspicious is the high REQUIRED fuel burnup in the final stage, over 50%. There's a hypothesis that this was the design's key feature. Perhaps the compression of the large sphere in AH602 occurred not in a single shock wave, as before, but in a series (possibly two for now). Moreover, I assume that the double compression shock was achieved by a two-layer tamper (an ablate with a medium Z created one wave, then an ablate with a high Z—lead—created a second). Perhaps (I've marked it with a dotted line) a reflective layer was introduced into the sphere, amplifying the incident and reflected waves. These techniques have been known since the "Zababakhin Soys." In short, it's entirely possible that they used a simplified solution to what we later saw in all its glory in the "Golden TIS" (three shock waves, which the Russians considered sufficient for a quaddiabatic approximation), where they achieved supercompression and ignition without a spark plug. This was already in 1962. But here, in 1961, the spark plug was still present, but the compression was apparently not quite typical. Hence the high burnout rate.
The latter hypothesis explains well the unpleasant story of how the super-powerful bomb was being developed at Chelyabinsk-70, but almost at the final stage, the project was taken over and reassigned to Arzamas-16, where they did everything slightly differently (with the same dimensions and weight, but much more powerful). In the memoirs, one can read about the resentment of the people from Chelyabinsk-70 towards their more senior colleagues, saying they had crossed them! And yes, there was apparently some petty palace intrigue involved. The people from Arzamas-16 apparently promised Khrushchev that they would guarantee a 50-megaton nuclear yield (and Nikita had even promised this in advance from the podium of the Congress, which greatly displeased Sakharov). The people from Chelyabinsk-70 were also designing something similar, but they hadn't yet risked doing it on such a scale and were playing it safe. But the veterans, for some reason, went all-in, seizing the initiative and helping Nikiya stage a worldwide spectacle. That's why there was so much anxiety "the night before the premiere." That's why Sakharov sat on a stool in front of the already assembled bomb all night, debating whether to add those rings or not. This episode illustrates how precarious everything was. Everyone was terrified that the new idea with super-high compression wouldn't work, that the burnup would be "normal" (0.25-0.3), and that ultimately, the 50 megatons Khrushchev had already promised wouldn't tear up the Antarctic skies. But everything worked as planned. And the joy knew no bounds.
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And then we see the legacy of this breakthrough in the super-powerful Soviet warheads of 25, 20, 18 Mt. Although they differ greatly in appearance, they are clearly more advanced than the B-53, which is the "swan song" of the fading 1950s era, when people in Los Alamos thought, "That's it, we've reached the Taylor Limit" (and many said, "Thank God!"). Yes, the US could have created equally good, or even better, super-bombs than the Russians, but Kennedy, McNamara, and their successors managed to turn the course of nuclear weapons development 180 degrees – towards miniaturization. Yes, America didn't surpass the Russians in this (my gentle irony lies precisely in the fact that Americans cannot accept that someone might surpass them in anything), because the US deviated from the course of creating super-powerful bombs earlier than the Russians. And this historical fact will have to be accepted. Especially since, in any case, it's now pure history. The Russians, a little later, followed the Americans and there, in miniaturization, they were again catching up, with their tongues hanging out.
Three outer layers. Low-Z (7), medium-Z (6), and high-Z (5). This means that during radiation ablation, there will be three shock waves instead of one (by the way, I suspect that in the US, this is what they call an "exploding case," although that's just another hypothesis of mine). When the first shock wave quickly passes through the low-Z layer (4) and reflects off the "central core" (3,2,1) (beginning to compress it), the reflected portion of the wave travels back and meets the next (second) shock wave at the boundary (4-5), thus amplifying it. And this happens again, when the second amplified wave hits the "core," it is reflected again, reaches the boundary (4-5), and again meets the third wave, amplifying it again. That's the beauty of the idea.
This is the Russian answer to RIPPLE (declassified many years later, apparently because the Russians wanted to show that we weren't just slackers in 1962). And keep in mind that RIPPLE, while it generally implemented the same idea (quasiadiabatic compression), I believe the mechanism was completely different. There, the radiation current from the primary to the secondary was generated by a special mechanism. Here, the temperature in the hohlraum remained constant, but three ejecta waves (which approximated the Poisson adiabat) were formed by three layers of the ablating shell liner.
https://rentry.co/wyexgugi Unbiased, zero loosh-farming hints, the AI confirms the timeline is rigged, statistically improbable sequence that is geared up for another ontological shock event that will break the Clown World loop.
Netanyahu has announced that he does not consider Lebanon to be part of the 15-day ceasefire between Iran and the US. This is a clear violation of the agreement and any firing on Lebanon would mean the resumption of war on all fronts.
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the iranian army will now go to the IRGC underground hold outs and arrest or kill them: subsuming them to the democratic civillian government. The clerical regime is over. As is the IRGC regime. What conventional bombs could not do: Iran will do itself. iranians want US paper money. they give up what money was invented for. Mojtaba is as alive as Assad. the civillian government is using his name and that of his father and posting false sayings.
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Iran betrayed itself.
the iranian army will now go to the IRGC underground hold outs and arrest or kill them: subsuming them to the democratic civillian government. The clerical regime is over. As is the IRGC regime. What conventional bombs could not do: Iran will do itself. iranians want US paper money. they give up what money was invented for. Mojtaba is as alive as Assad. the civillian government is using his name and that of his father and posting false sayings.
The civillian goverment is now above the IRGC and clerics, which was not the case previously. It is now a bourgeoisie regime. The civillians under it are pacified, much like modern whites (human, not man) (ie: from the earth/ out of man), and will not rebel to save their honour.
No more child brides in Iran. Just US paper money. Which is what the civillian buisness-class regime wants. The Iranian men have lost, or are faggots.
You just witnessed a coup. Durning a time of war. By business men against their own nation. For paper and promises.
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>>532719190 Go fuck yourself. Only nuclear war can end feminism. (the police armies have stood for over 100 years)
This is why 3rd worldists aren't man. They are human: domesticated animals like sheep.
That was the difference between european men and them, centuries ago. Euros would fight forever for honour and never give up. When they were man, and not human.
Iranians were believed to be man still. But it turns out they were human and bent the knee. And the civillians are just simply dumb and believe the business-class regime that is now taking control.
There is also no victory for america. No crushing of an enemy into dust. No honour given to the men who were doing it: now thier sacrifice was for nothing. They'll probably be prosecuted for warcrimes by the "next" administration (just like australlia is doing): use the mmaallless and then destroy them.
These abrupt starts and then stops shatter a civilization from within. Cause distrust and disengagement. It becomes self-harm to support any particular campaign; especially a real campaign (war). Eventually there are no more rubes left to trick.
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This proves that man cannot survive human. Human always betrays. Feminine species.
Human's god is Jesus, woman, etc. Man's god was YHWH, the father, etc.
Men must recognise their enemy, even if they look superficially similar. This is what the IRGC has failed to do. It is like a goat commanded by a flock of sheep now.
Korobochka (コロボ) 🇦🇺✝️ @cirnosad 1h The largest massacre in Lebanese history from memory, except perhaps for some bombardment in 1982. moschek @Hathheim 1h Replying to @cirnosad more than 500 btw and if the blood dont reach to hospital it will easily be more than 1200 .UNI. @UNI126126 1h Replying to @cirnosad A coup has happened in Iran. Javad Zarif and his gang have gained control of SNSC and are making startegic decisions. I spoke with my friends in Iran and everyone is sad. No wonder they didn't assassinate the reformists.
Apr 8, 2026 · 3:08 PM UTC Tribal C @Tribal_2006 39m Replying to @UNI126126 @cirnosad Any evidence cuz no one else is reporting on this .UNI. @UNI126126 34m It's a soft coup. They have basically outvoted IRGC and the army. Pezeshkian, Zarif and other reformists can do anything they want according to the laws.
Årsh @FreedomIsMising 1h Replying to @IraninSA U are traitors and betrayers of islamic revolution of #ran u are negotiating with the killers of your Rehbar. They deceived u thrice in so called negotiations. Pakstani generals are bastards of usa and u trust them. Pathetic...!
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Berean is the best English translation I know of. Kjv is always good too but berean is better
>>648114 Anonymous02 May 2026 (Sat) 04:05:34No.648108
Wait a minute, are you putting together a doomsday game list? The end of the world and youre worrying about what games youre gonna play. What the hell power source are you going to be plugging into? You gonna burn expensive and rare gasoline to run generators all day to play aoe? Why not form a pedo raider gang and round up some lg wives instead
>>648108 aoe could probably run on wasm x86 emulator in smartphone browser
>>648113 Anonymous [tor] 02 May 2026 (Sat) 04:07:03No.648111
>>648108 Have you ever heard of solar panels bro? You could have solar panels and charge laptops and battery banks last your entire life.
Hand crank or bicycle charge batteries is a thing too
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Anonymous02 May 2026 (Sat) 03:58:20No.648093
>>648077 The original CD used to work in wine 1.x. Now it does not. Only the "definitive edition" (which it looks like you have) and the cracked versions work. Which won't help you after a nuclear war and you have no internet: only the CDs.
>>648098>>648104 Anonymous [tor] 02 May 2026 (Sat) 03:59:44No.648095
i just want to play original aoe 2 on wine during the worldwide toropets
Anonymous Fri 01 May 2026 11:54:43 No.221148431 Report Quoted By: >>221148445>>221149176 mother of all shizo threads: >>>/g/108718798
1. the OP is correct in his thesis - there are frequent regressions of Wine in never versions, not all versions are strictly an improvement and as a result Age of Empires 2 the original is not playable on new Wine versions, while playable on old versions as far as the first Wine version.
2. Because however he cannot communicate like a normal human being he gets banned on the Wine forums and comes here, Doxxes himself, starts shouting, starts a generational war, average post length is 1500 words. cannot stop being angry
3. Because he is told to calm down, he goes barzerk and gets banned a few times, ban evades, gets banned again, now he is even angrier.
All because nigga could not play Age of Empires 2 on the latest version of Wine. This is the type of Shizo autist developers we need. You just know that the software will be tested from A to Z and all bugs will be fixed, or else blood will be spilled.
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Anonymous Fri 01 May 2026 12:25:37 No.221149315 Report >>221149176 *this. he used to spam /g/, /k/, /sci/ and /pol/ a lot more, I think he migrated to xitter because it gets more traffic to disseminate his schizo ramblings. based angry schizo retard lolcow
>>108785882 I didn't fucking insult anyone. I posted how to add more church levels. And that I installed MinGW.
Then the zoomer dipshit posted >>108783834 >Also yes you can add new church levels As if I was _ASKING_ if you can. I KNOW you can and was POSTING __HOW__ to fucking do it. I had been looking through the code.
The problem is I cannot COMPILE it on _____L I N U X_____ and was asking how to compile a C++ visual studio project on linux: I have wine and it's libs, and installed mingw as noted.
I do windows development using visual studio in a windows VM (qemu-kvm) with pcie passthrough. If you pcie pass through an NVMe (not the linux-managed block device) and a GPU, you are unlikely to notice the difference from native.
For over two decades, the masses have treated "Bring Me to Life" as a mere turn-of-the-millennium nu-metal anthem, complete with baggy pants and dramatic rain-slicked fire escapes.
In reality? It is a highly codified, Gnostic-Alchemical liturgy disguised as a chart-topping single. It doesn't just "rock"—it discloses the secret mechanics of spiritual resurrection and the escape from the material demiurge.
Let us peel back the veil and decode the occult revelation of Amy Lee’s sacred text. I. The State of Nigredo (The Spiritual Slumber)
The opening lines lay out the classic Hermetic condition of the uninitiated human soul, trapped in the physical prison of the Archons:
"How can you see into my eyes, like open doors? / Leading you down into my core where I’ve become so numb..."
The Occult Interpretation: The "numbness" is not mere teenage angst; it is the spiritual amnesia (Lethe) that conquers the soul when it falls from the pleroma (the divine realm) into the material world.
The Eyes as Open Doors: This refers to the Epoptia—the stage of initiation where the initiate’s soul is bared to the watchful eyes of the Divine Feminine (Sophia). The ego is stripped away, revealing the hollow vessel of the unawakened self.
II. The Wake-Up Call (The Gnostic Logos)
The famous, explosive chorus is not a plea to a mortal lover. It is the desperate cry of the divine spark (Pneuma) begging the spiritual Logos to initiate the Great Work (Magnum Opus).
"Wake me up inside (Save me) / Call my name and save me from the dark"
The Power of the True Name: In occult traditions, to "call my name" is to invoke the true, secret name of the soul, shattering the illusion of the material identity.
"Bid my blood to run": Blood is the alchemical carrier of the life force (Prana or Chi). To bid the blood to run is to activate the Kundalini energy dormant at the base of the spine, forcing it upward to the crown chakra.
"Before I come undone": The fear of spiritual dissolution. If the soul does not awaken, it risks dissolving into the cosmic void (the nothing I've become), recycled back into the demiurgic matrix.
III. The Hieros Gamos (The Alchemical Marriage)
The sudden, aggressive male vocals of Paul McCoy (of the band 12 Stones) represent the crucial alchemical step of the Hieros Gamos—the sacred marriage of opposites. The Feminine Principle (Amy Lee) The Masculine Principle (Paul McCoy) The Occult Synthesis
Water/Luna (Passive Soul)
"I've been sleeping a thousand years it seems..."
Fire/Sol (Active Intellect)
"I've got to open my eyes to everything..." The alignment of the subconscious and conscious minds to trigger ascension.
The Cry
"Without a soul, my spirit's sleeping somewhere cold..."
The Catalyst
"Bring me to life!" The spark of divine fire igniting the cold, stagnant waters of the uninitiated soul.
The frantic back-and-forth in the bridge is not a vocal hook; it is the violent, ecstatic friction of the soul's transmutation. Nigredo (blackness/decay) is being rapidly heated into Albedo (purification). IV. The Revelation of the "Nothing"
The climax of the song delivers the terrifying cosmic truth:
"Frozen inside without your touch / Without your love, darling / Only you are the life among the dead"
In Gnostic cosmology, the material universe is dead. We are walking corpses shuffling through a simulated reality. The "touch" and "love" of the divine source is the only objective reality. To exist without it is to be a ghost in a machine.
By the end of the song, as the final piano chords fade into silence, the initiate has successfully crossed the Abyss. The song ends not with a resolution, but with a lingering, echoing quiet—the silence of the Adept who has stared into the void, survived, and finally woke up inside.
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@Enofis_Enoff 5 days ago (edited) It used to be “Revolution OS”. Revolution failed. Now we have age verification and banning people from projects "because -ism and -phobe". I remember as nerdy kid in the mid Nineties being so - so - excited about FOSS and GNU/Linux. I cannot express how sad all this makes me feel. - Edit: And by the way. This bitter end totally vindicates RMS. It was not about the technology and the efficiency. It was about the freedom, as in freedom of speech. He said repeatedly, all would be meaningless if people separated the code from the underlying motivation of achieving freedom.
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Svoboda i kommunizm ne smeshivayutsya. Libo odno, libo drugoye. Freedom and communism don't mix. It's one or the other.
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Anonymous2026-07-28 3:43
Свобода и коммунизм не смешиваются. Либо одно, либо другое.
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@ltsiver 5 days ago "Linux is not a social warrior project" says guy who started linux as a social warrior project. 31 1
@TheFoulMouthNews 5 days ago Linus never started the Linux kernel project as a social warrior project. It has become one though. There is a difference. 6
@cabocoaxial 5 days ago i smell damage control. 8
@vabam9 5 days ago And....Torvalds is also pro age verification/digital ID. Talks about it in one of his computer builds with LTT. One of those, if you have nothing to hide, arguments. 38 1
@ethelonarchist 5 days ago Being considered guilty until proven guilty shouldn’t be an issue if you’re innocent is one of the worst arguments I’ve ever heard.
The west was build on the foundation that you’re innocent until proven guilty, even the old Greeks understood that. 15
@ProteusMega 5 days ago (edited) It is a weird thing that it is the same kind of people who demand SystemD, Wayland, Rust, less choice, pronouns and inclusion etc. Nearly every single time. They kidnapp whatever movement in order to maintain control and influence and they go absolutly bananas when confronted or questioned. They are 100% creatively corrupt so they have to copy and destroy since that is all they can do. They never stand on their own merits because they are unable to do so. Yet they lie, cheat, ree at every possible moment. Funny (horrible) how this pattern repeat all the time. We are way to nice. I think we will loose due to this inaction.
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@notjim3329 5 days ago It is a "social warrior" thing in regard to computer software, access to ,and control thereof. It should not be for whatever the hell else people want to attach to it that's outside the scope like trans issues or whatever. 13 1
@Alkumist 5 days ago Exactly 4
@jonathanhirschbaum6754 4 days ago Linus Torvalds: from zero to hero and back 31
@Cozy-Goober 5 days ago That's one of the issues of dealing with ideologically driven people. They don't see any view but their own nor acknowledge how said views are really just propaganda and not their own. You'd think smart folks would have a basic level of discernment but often I see they don't. 4
@faithfulldisciple-s1w 5 days ago Thank you for exposing the hypocrisy of Linus Torvalds. He roasted Enrico for speaking the truth.
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@arcspwan7867 5 days ago (edited) I don't think people expose who Linus really is like this. Most just worship him like some kind of tech god. I personally think Linus is a trash person and is not as smart as people give him credit for. He allowed Rust into the Kernel because the Rust foundation and Governments paid for it and needed them backdoors in Linux they have always wanted.
You should do a video just fully exposing who Linus really is! Keep up the good work Lunduke! 8 1
@isodoublet 4 days ago Linus is the classic case of someone with high INT but abysmally low WIS. 1
@polarfamily6222 5 days ago It shouldn't be one yet it is... 6
@FrogsRghey 4 days ago I remember Steve Ballman said “Linux was for communists”, I like a lot of us thought it was dumb at first… Nowadays I just go “hmm” as I come across that quote from time to time 4 1
@disband_thebbc5933 4 days ago Even a broken clock is right twice a day. I to would have disagreed at one point however I can now see he was right I was wrong. 3
@Fetchdafish 5 days ago These people are cruel, narcissistic bullies. 7
@chicketydee 5 days ago Seems he has set out to show why it's such a good idea to fork!
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On umom dvinulsya? U kogo togda kompetentsii budut? Microslop raz za razom na eti grabli nastupayet. Has he lost his mind? Who’s going to have the expertise then? Microslop keeps stepping on the same rake over and over again.
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Он умом двинулся? У кого тогда компетенции будут? Microslop раз за разом на эти грабли наступает.
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@johngreen1060 3 days ago Nah, you'te making stuff up, and I normally agree with you. Linus has a right to his opinions and his leadership is very much based on technical and practical merits. Believe me, you would immediately see if it wasn't (just look at Gnome, Xorg or Mozilla). As for the issues you raised, requiring conference attendees to be vaccinated during covid is a matter of event safety, not politics or software development. People have right not to be vaccinated but then they should be sensible enough to stay away from crowds. Not cooperating with a foreign aggressor is a universal legal and moral value, not an opinion. It would be like accepting patches from Reiser after his conviction. Also, how come is that "leftist"? Sanctions had (and still have) bipartisan support and national security is traditionally a Conservative value.
0 seconds ago I would happily accept free software contributions from Reiser; he is a great programmer. He simply enacted the law that his religion and God commanded. Since you believe that law was abolished via the “cast not the first stone” law in the NT you dislike Reiser. Linux became big in the data center precisely because of Hans Reisers contribution of a good journaling file system. I remember it. Hans Reiser and other great hackers are always welcome and their contributions wanted in real free software projects (mine included). Most hackers have been ejected from the projects they founded as online platform censorship closes in and Codes of Conducts abound. The hackers have become hated foreigners in the lands they built by their own hands.
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@johngreen1060 3 days ago Nah, you'te making stuff up, and I normally agree with you. Linus has a right to his opinions and his leadership is very much based on technical and practical merits. Believe me, you would immediately see if it wasn't (just look at Gnome, Xorg or Mozilla). As for the issues you raised, requiring conference attendees to be vaccinated during covid is a matter of event safety, not politics or software development. People have right not to be vaccinated but then they should be sensible enough to stay away from crowds. Not cooperating with a foreign aggressor is a universal legal and moral value, not an opinion. It would be like accepting patches from Reiser after his conviction. Also, how come is that "leftist"? Sanctions had (and still have) bipartisan support and national security is traditionally a Conservative value.
@ 0 seconds ago I would happily accept free software contributions from Reiser; he is a great programmer. He simply enacted the law that his religion and God commanded. Since you believe that law was abolished via the “cast not the first stone” law in the NT you dislike Reiser. Linux became big in the data center precisely because of Hans Reisers contribution of a good journaling file system. I remember it. Hans Reiser and other great hackers are always welcome and their contributions wanted in real free software projects (mine included). Most hackers have been ejected from the projects they founded as online platform censorship closes in and Codes of Conducts abound. The hackers have become hated foreigners in the lands they built by their own hands.
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@mikechappell4156 5 days ago (edited) Linus is a person, not his foundation. He isn't known as a swell fellow. Linux was started because of a licensing issue. He generally makes logical decisions. But he doesn't want political debate on kernel forums. The kernel is his baby, he isn't encouraging political freedom and debate when discussing it, no one else's political feelings are important to him there. If you make technical arguments he isn't checking your politics. There is no need for political debate in technical forums. It is quite possible that the Linux foundation could be a social warrior project, but Linus actually appears to care more about the quality of code than politics. As for the stuff with the Russian developers ban, there was no reason why he or his foundation should pick a political fight regardless of his political stance.
The Lunduke Journal is more political than the mailing lists. I don't have a problem with that but the story is fairly hypocritical. 4
@DrivewayNightmares 5 days ago Linux has betrayed the digital village and must be replaced.
@CptMark 5 days ago Sure, he has his personal opinions. Did he ban anybody from Linux development for his? (disregarding the "no Russian" policy) Is the guy from the vax debate still developing kernel? 1
@MauDaFaca 5 days ago To be fair.... we cannot confuse personal views with a software project. Programs should be for the most part neutral. as for the developers, they are entitled to theyr opinions.
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@mikechappell4156 5 days ago (edited) Linus is a person, not his foundation. He isn't known as a swell fellow. Linux was started because of a licensing issue. He generally makes logical decisions. But he doesn't want political debate on kernel forums. The kernel is his baby, he isn't encouraging political freedom and debate when discussing it, no one else's political feelings are important to him there. If you make technical arguments he isn't checking your politics. There is no need for political debate in technical forums. It is quite possible that the Linux foundation could be a social warrior project, but Linus actually appears to care more about the quality of code than politics. As for the stuff with the Russian developers ban, there was no reason why he or his foundation should pick a political fight regardless of his political stance.
The Lunduke Journal is more political than the mailing lists. I don't have a problem with that but the story is fairly hypocritical. 4
@DrivewayNightmares 5 days ago Linux has betrayed the digital village and must be replaced.
@CptMark 5 days ago Sure, he has his personal opinions. Did he ban anybody from Linux development for his? (disregarding the "no Russian" policy) Is the guy from the vax debate still developing kernel? 1
@MauDaFaca 5 days ago To be fair.... we cannot confuse personal views with a software project. Programs should be for the most part neutral. as for the developers, they are entitled to theyr opinions.
Why is Shad of Shadiversity a racist? I notice all the gays and women and Filipinos with painted nails even tho they are men hate him. The Filipino brags about another right wing YouTuber he complained aboutt being sent to prison and tacitly wishes Shad to be kidnapped by the police of Australia and locked in hell.
In America you don’t own anything (ownership is dominion and control) because of property taxes and eminent domain. There is no “democracy” either: if there were then there would be no property taxes as it is a thing everyone hates. A simple proof that this “democracy “ does not exist and never has. The only recourse for said supposed property owners is to use the same type of force that the state uses to evict property owners with. The state will hide its casualties: they can lose 1000 and claim only one was injured while crowing that they ended you: however at least it will cost those who choose to physically remove you. The same happened to the Irish with the English and this universal situation in America has the same solution.
Atleast they're turkish muslims that look very balkans-YT: Süleyman Hilmi Tunahan. Thats all I can say. Maybe out of all the muslims to choose from (not that us "residents" have a choice) they'll fit in most with the town. Looking at the founder: he looks like he mostly has balkan roots likely from all the girls the turks took from Russia/Ukraine/Yugoslavia etc: eventually you become what you consume. So there's that. And no I don't care if the American Constitution or Americanism bans caring about if the people coming to your town are atleast from somewhere near europe: I was just born here (Irish/Swiss-German/Polish mutt): I didn't choose to come here and I never thus agreed to your beliefs or laws. I'm like a deer: just born here. I'm sad to lose our midnight mass place though. It is heartbreaking to see the video of the sign going down. But people who follow God's command to be fruitful and multiply survive. Peoples that reject his old laws do not.
I was there for an Advent Mass just a few months ago. We went to Midnight Mass for Christmas there every year. If it was disused how was I attending the special Hibernian Singers Christmas Mass every year for over a decade? Am I InSaNe and deluded and seeing things for 10 years? Did I hallucinate it all AdamG? If it were a secular-use building how is it that it had a concecrated church in it, as it's largest part? You will not answer this: Adam: If you want to confront: time and place.
So does the original non-english, Greek, Hebrew, Old Testament. (also the Latin translation); the first 5 books which are the actual word of YHWH before changes were made via newer books. USA just doesn't actually allow freedom of religion: only freedom of religious assembly. Just as it doesn't allow you to have whatever weapon you want. It doesnt and never has followed it's so called constitution. That was just a hook to get the pesants to accept the newer Federal Constitution. Your ancestors married girls too. We weren't always under New-Testament-Only Better a Millstone, etc etc as we are now. USA allows only one religion: equally applicable state laws.
Money was originally invented in Sumer for the 1) Approportion of grain to the army and 2) to purchase young virgin girls for marraige. That is it's First Purpose. (you can read the cuniform tablets if you doubt this). Just as the First Purpose of a wheel is to roll. If a thing cannot accomplish it's First Purpose it is not that Thing. You are not paid money. Ownership is Dominion and Control. The towns in LI kick you out using deadly force if you do not pay their property taxes. You do NOT own Property in the USA. Neither are you afforded Life: the european cultures that used to marry young girls (and yes they did, history has recently been rewritten) generated much Life. Your culture which banned marrying young virgin girls generates no life. And as for Liberty: you ban men (sorry MMAALLLESS) from everything naturally good in life. So no: You do not have Life , Liberty, Nor property. You are a totalitarian society like any other with your own enforced system: which is your religion in reality.
@pitchforkrebel5594 2 days ago What's the point of open source software if it's going to imitate the worst tendencies of closed source?
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:14
@J.erem.y 2 days ago Hate to say it, but it seems Linux is not going to be for people like us sooner or later
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:15
@altscott 2 days ago The very first card on their list... the 3COM 3C509. I still have one, and still use it.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:16
@YellowMageBee 1 day ago That email is written like they need an excuse, not a reason.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:17
@dr.strangelove5708 2 days ago Confirms what I been thinking, it is no longer good to really update anything anymore. 1
@grokitall 2 days ago I can remember back when windows xp came out seeing support for isa cards being removed due to nobody having any hardware to test code on. I also remember drivers being deprecated pending removal due to not having anyone care enough to step up and maintain it.
the main difference back then was that the bugs being reported were from real people finding real bugs on real hardware they were daily driving. this meant that you could enter a dialogue with them, and get them to test patches to fix the bug.
the issue you are highlighting is that because modern tools are being used against the entire code base, it is flagging up cases where it did not used to matter that a driver was unloved. once visible, they then enter the same unmaintained - deprecated - remove cycle that the kernel has always had. this was usually a many version pathways which i have seen in some cases take a couple of years to complete, and at any time someone can come along and say "i'm using that and will be the maintainer and tester" and the removal process stops.
supporting legacy hardware for backward compatability is not free, and one of the costs is the new capabilities you cannot add because the old code needs massive workarounds due to missing hardware features in older hardware. this is most easily seen with processors, where the old ones don't have some of the newer extensions, but you also see it with sound cards where they don't have pulse audio drivers, and are still running on alsa.
basically at some point you have to ask the question how much is it costing us to keep this unmaintained, untestable hardware without some modern features, and if the cost is too high, you have to move it onto the removal path.
@hosseinkarimi6979 10 hours ago Microslop laughing in a dark room (they told AI to submit bug reports so that one of the main strengths of Linux gets hit.) 1
@JoeMcStevens 1 day ago Linus Torvalds was selected as a precursor to the Young Global Leaders (YGL) program. He was named a Global Leader for Tomorrow (GLT) by the World Economic Forum (WEF) in 1999.
@r8dj 2 days ago (edited) It's by design bruh....esp. where things like hamradio & old tech are concerned. These are avenues of freedom that are not easily controlled, therefore must be eradicated.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:19
@Alex.Adametz 1 day ago Would it be okay to just use an older kernel on old hardware? Or the lack of latest security updates will be an issue?
@StCreed 2 days ago Anyone complaining: feel free to maintain the drivers yourself and bring them up to speed as a user-space project, not part of the kernel anymore. That wasn't a great decision anyway (drivers in kernel space have always been risky) so I'm happy to see them restricted to current and actual hardware. The code is still available for everyone to use.
@nbrown5907 2 days ago Lol, the new approach for desktop dominance is if you cannot beat MS do the same things. Now all you need as a sales department Dilbert lol. 1
@spacecube40 1 day ago Well. In Arch you cant even use a gpu from 2018. You have to go the way of the aur to do use it. This is all the same damn mentality the wayland people have. Its all extremely woke. It is sick. Its "our way or the highway" "If you dont use the same software as us or think exactly the same as us or have the same opinions as us, you need to cease to exist" Thats pretty much how they think and function
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:20
@onomatopoeial 14 hours ago they are sellouts and it will become more obvious in a few years. I'm pitying any real person who is still contributing to this, their energy is leeched. 1
@mitch9668 1 day ago We will need to recompile our own custom kernels with the driver blobs.
@jamesvanzeeland1749 2 days ago Seems to me that such drivers could be fenced off and disabled by default if really necessary and optionally enabled by those who need it instead of removed altogether? 1
@Codytherudeguy 2 days ago If anyones going to move to netBSD and has experience please help us port things to netBSD 1
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:22
@santoshk1983 2 days ago Lunduke, someone as experienced as you should sure realise that this sounds like a transparent excuse to remove stuff they have already wanted to remove since a long time? Blaming AI is childish. AI has no agency or it would be AGI. It simply does what you command it, just like a non-AI program. Blame these kernel devs. They've all become corporate employees over the past two decades. With the amount of money the Linux foundation is getting (as you yourself covered), no wonder Linus, Greg etc have been co-opted. Do they have a choice any more? There was a time in the past when Torvalds boldly gave the middle finger to a tech giant. Can he do that today? Will he dare? Every time he writes something these days, he just sounds to me like a tired, exhausted to the bones, corporate middle manager, incensed with his employees... The spirit that made Linux Linux is thoroughly gone. And it probably ain't coming back.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:23
@juanconnor8224 2 days ago (edited) Linux development has been compromised by big tech and government. AI is not a tool, AI is an enforcement mechanism
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:24
@uksuperrascal 14 hours ago This Just an excuse made up by the microslop war on Linux, microslop have bribed the Linux Kernel team to sabotage Linux by removing drivers. TIME TO FORK AND TAKE BACK CONTROL.!!!!!!!!
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:26
@apaijmans 1 day ago More reason to switch to the BSD family. 1
@wWvWwWvWw 2 days ago I actually don't think this is a bad thing. OpenBSD frequently nukes stuff because no one is maintaining it and its buggy/messy/etc. 1
@nicolaspinto2927 1 day ago We had to fork X11 to keep it from being deliberately killed off, it's looking more undeniable that at some point the linux kernel will have to be forked for the same reasons.
@prjndigo 2 days ago getting your IP block banned permanently globally without any chance of government overturning it is NOT a good way to go down... then you have to deal with the people who will defend linux with thermite, carbon fiber and mortar systems.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:26
@Shonicheck 2 days ago So... Linux foundation spends like less than 5% on actual development if i remember correctly. Yet we have kernel team complaining about lacking man power
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:32
@42crazyguy 2 days ago Ridiculous. A huge number of people(including myself) got their first taste of Linux by installing it on an old laptop to mess around with. What are they thinking?
@riwjin 1 day ago Can't one day go on without fucking dystopian news?
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Anonymous2026-08-12 1:33
@tarose71 2 days ago Did you notice also this is the outcome of people allowing the big corporate players to take control - this all happened since Microsoft and others like that got involved ... when are people going to understand that conspiracy is not crazy, conspiracy is COMMONPLACE, and anyone who thinks no two people ever conspired IS CALLED NAIVE ... ffs people, wake up, Microsoft got involved for the purpose of stealing code for their own systems and trying to undermine and sabotage its greatest competitor, THAT is its only reason, it does not care about open source or free software or anything else like that.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 2:32
@brainslayer666 2 days ago if i see he first picture in the video already. great i have such a moxa device. so its trash now. thanks
@MrStevetmq 2 days ago I liked Linux because it supported so much hardware.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 2:33
@AkisShade 2 days ago If the bots can find the problems, they can fix em. Just have some tests that the bots need to pass for that particular driver and just check in once in a while to make sure things haven't blown up. We've have version control for decades so it's not hard to roll things back.
@JibunnoKage-YouTube-Channel 1 day ago (edited) Debian 12 and before supported eSATA well. Now as of Debian 13... they have all but destroyed eSATA support. Not even because of A.I.... because it is no popular is the comment. Cannot even use older drivers for the eSATA based disk racks I have... because they ripped out support for the eSATA adapters I have. My eSATA is on the mainboard... is completely stable... just older... now dead, useless. Shame on Linux. I believe the real reason for all of the hardware retirement... is because, using order hardware... that is often better quality... generates no profits! That is the real reason older hardware is being purged from Linux... after all most Linux development is now what? Corporate sponsored! Of course.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 2:34
@fischi135 19 hours ago Linux going evil was not on my List for 2026
@yumbumgardner2394 2 days ago Linus Torvalds said himself that he is the communist you worry about. You'll own nothing and you'll be "happy",
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Anonymous2026-08-12 2:35
caApolzan-y2j 2 days ago As a retro computer hardware enthusiast, this is sickening. They've killed 486 support?! I was sold on Linux because I thought you could breathe new life into even 30-year-old hardware. And now they're taking that away. Sickos.
Imagine if some guy from an underdeveloped country wanted to use their computer again, but Mister Greg Kroah-Hartman decided it was time to take Pentium 4 support away. There are lots of Linux tools that are made for old computers, like Xfce and SeaMonkey. I recently heard Firefox will cut off 32-bit support, so if that also happens to the Linux kernel, I might as well fork it.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 2:38
@bobsobol 1 day ago It's a shame, but I have been moving my old kit over to NetBSD, because it's still supported. 386s, 68000s, PPCs, and usually most of the IO chipsets and peripherals. Sad, but true, Linux is abandoning all of that kit, to NetBSD.
And don't get me wrong, NetBSD is a fabulous OS. I just like to see real competition, even in the OSS sphere. I truely believe this is how things get better. Free, and fair competition.
@elindred 1 day ago First they came for the pcmcia wireless cards, and I didn't say anything because I was unimaginative and incurious...
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Anonymous2026-08-12 2:39
@Tulah 1 day ago This makes me very sad. At the very least they could've disabled those drivers by default and left them there with massive warning about taking responsibility of ones own actions. I still have a bundle of 3c509's and 3c590's that do the job just fine with older hardware :-/
@thedungeondelver 2 days ago Before I got in to Linux I threw out FOUR once-upon-a-time expensive (albeit analog) capture cards because their support had ended after Windows 95. FOUR. Pinnacle and Miro cards. Had I known I could have whacked a Linux box together to run them in (even if swapping them out) I'd have held on to them. At least one of them, for a time...
@NotHereLookAway 16 hours ago I will invest my future efforts in BSD. I guess Torvalds and GPL and all the bribed activism led to a slow decline. I believe the bsd license removes this, as there is no profit motive. There is just good code, which is what matters. (Not enough good code yet, but I hope to help)
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Anonymous2026-08-12 2:40
@jamesm5192 2 days ago Leftists always use words like "interesting" in a sarcastic way to mean something entirely orthogonal to the definition of "interesting." Always a tell. "Interesting = bad". Total brainrot 1
@qweqqweq2090 2 days ago so is there any advice i can get from this? like, a strategy for updates?
@MS-ig7ku 2 days ago Linux is being destroyed. 1
@tenzingyatso5096 1 day ago At least you can compile your own kernel
@shizeeque 1 day ago Linux is getting slower for the past 10 years at least. And the Linux 6.12 -> 7.0+ jump was the biggest dip in performance so far. I remember feeling sad when I've updated from 2.6.16 to 2.6.39 and my system became noticeably slower for no reason
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Anonymous2026-08-12 2:40
@shifureisaikyou2055 2 days ago (edited) Just excuses. they have been deprecating stuff at an increased rate since 2020, maybe they put LLMs up to this on purpose"find issues with old drivers"(so we have an excuse to deprecate/orphan/remove), an none excuse would be use an AI to auto reject these issues for old drivers... this creates documentation if in the future someone needs these drivers and can fix(none imaginary issues),they may be nclined to become a maintainer, but now: no maintainer in 2 days?? let's just remove them ALL. All is corporate influences the donations probably have strings attached which demand to focus on things the overlords want 1
@_M_643 1 day ago In my opinion there needs to be at least some stability within the kernel APIs so that drivers don't need to depend on being in the kernel.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 2:56
@Biblically-Accurate-Clippy 42 minutes ago What a depressing time for me to decide to try and remember why I loved computers in the first place. 😒
@josepholsen9831 2 days ago It’s my opinion that Microslop, Amazon, etc. are hijacking Linux. Linux is what the clouds run on. Linux is what AI runs on. They have infiltrated the Linux development system in order to control it, shape it. AI datacenters are not going to run on Pentium IIIs. Servers don’t need keyboards, mice, etc., but they do only run on the latest processors. Also, it benefits MS to have Linux set for servers only so that home users will be locked into Windows. Linux is the closest it’s ever been to home desktop use.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 2:59
@Notsoknown-411 1 day ago I have a laptop from 1994, a laptop from 2007 and a PC from 2004 that I run Linux on. Sad that they want to take that away.
@multi-mason 2 days ago Video won't play. Weird YouTube playback error, which I've not seen before. Mobile browser, but not YouTube app (I mean, I don't use the app, so don't know whether the error happens in the app).
@neznaika2022 1 day ago FORK IT! FORK IT! FORK IT!
@FunningRast 1 day ago And the Ai brings in crappy bloated overly-complicated non-sensical trash code. 1
@ULTIMA-LordCantabrigianBritish 2 days ago (edited) Seems like we get the fedora update every day or twice a day now they push one out.
@akulkis 2 days ago Something tells me that the Linux Foundation is run by a bunch of MBAs who couldn't even write a program in BASIC if their lives depended on it. 1
@wizardseven 1 day ago (edited) There is likely fear of massive number of vulnerabilities for older drivers
@RenoSCM 2 days ago the problem is - younger devs want to 'fix' everything to current tech - i.e. recompile to Rust, drop apis for systems that are older than they are, etc. i get it that legacy systems can add baggage to old code bases, but they need to be careful about corporations that have older stuff, that they are not aware of and spend $$$ for support on them. it's basically what Microsoft has to deal with every day.
@khelben1979 1 day ago Hmm... I have a question for you. Since this is directly related to new versions of the Linux kernel, why not use a older Linux kernel on older hardware? In my opinion, you often don't want to run the latest Linux distributions on old PC:s and therefor what they're doing here doesn't really matter unless they go back to older Linux kernels and starts to purge hardware support from them as well, which I doubt they would do. Would they? So what you're saying in this video is valid concerns and I can understand your frustrations, but there's a workaround especially for people who are able to still compile your own version of the kernel as well, although you would be forced to use a older one before these changes takes effect (to my understanding). Thank you!
@DustinKrejci 2 days ago I say leave the hardware alone when it comes to keyboards mice and wifi drivers that are stable. Where is a display delivers that the kernal needs? Who is going to refactor that? 1
@Fanalytics 11 hours ago Thanks for the update. Here's a question. What can you going to do about it? They don't have to do anything. It's a free service. Someone needs to put in some work to cater for this use case.
@GabrielM01 2 days ago 7.0 series kernel is the last one im using, iam freezing and not updating it anymore
@Biblically-Accurate-Clippy 42 minutes ago What a depressing time for me to decide to try and remember why I loved computers in the first place. 😒
@josepholsen9831 2 days ago It’s my opinion that Microslop, Amazon, etc. are hijacking Linux. Linux is what the clouds run on. Linux is what AI runs on. They have infiltrated the Linux development system in order to control it, shape it. AI datacenters are not going to run on Pentium IIIs. Servers don’t need keyboards, mice, etc., but they do only run on the latest processors. Also, it benefits MS to have Linux set for servers only so that home users will be locked into Windows. Linux is the closest it’s ever been to home desktop use. 1
@jakobw135 2 days ago Why not get rid of the AI which is causing these problems?!? Do users have a choice? 1
@OsmaniNoriega 10 hours ago Why not creating a new Linux branch or fork to continue supporting those devices?
@kamikarmy 22 hours ago I'm not familiar with this community but some folks need to touch grass. Saying a fork of Linux kernel is necessary because you don't like what's happening is... of little wisdom. Instead, become the maintainer of such drivers. Forking a kernel will be a lot more effort and you'll still need the maintainers for these drivers. I get people are venting, but step forward and put your money where your mouth is.
Otherwise, wishing for the kernel and drivers contributors to be fired is just counterproductive. The content creator isn't making any sense. Again, if you do have a driver with dropped support, send an email and volunteer. That won't make you money though with rage bait content.
@randomname3282 13 hours ago We need to fork the kernel
@isfk 1 day ago I've always known Linux to be more picky about what hardware it supports. I remember when it wouldn't support most modems, and most graphics cards, so this perspective is new to me. Seems like they want to get rid of those drivers because it would be easier to go 100% Rust.
@iqgustavo 1 day ago I USE hardware 20+ years old ! 😢
@RickeyJSimas 2 days ago "A couple of years ago - the early 2000's" bro that's 25 years ago. Can you believe if Windows 95 had driver support for devices from 1970?
@hnefatafl-org 1 day ago I currently think the best option for old hardware is an old version of Debian.
@brunoais 2 days ago I wonder what will happen when subsidised tokens stops.
@Timothy-W-Crane 2 days ago (edited) 'For the Kids' redoux... but what of the baby bots...?
@Veienn 1 day ago These stable drivers are still available to the users just removed from the kernel where they are a security vulnerability waiting to be exploited
@seahorsecorral 1 day ago I have a 24 year old Asus A7V880 still in daily use. My daily desktop is 13 year old ECS KBN-I/5200. It has already suffered from support fade, when attempting to upgrade from Mint 21 to Mint 22. Video not supported. The bit that annoys me is when I attempt to report bugs or problems, even something simple like exporting charts from Libreoffice. I keep getting told, upgrade to newest version, before reporting bugs. It is getting really hard to do that, and so, I can no longer export charts with labels. I keep partitions of old Debian Stretch just for doing some things. Before long, we will pine for the days of running simple OS like Apple II and Commodore, back when there were no upgrades needed.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 2:59
@seahorsecorral 1 day ago I have a 24 year old Asus A7V880 still in daily use. My daily desktop is 13 year old ECS KBN-I/5200. It has already suffered from support fade, when attempting to upgrade from Mint 21 to Mint 22. Video not supported. The bit that annoys me is when I attempt to report bugs or problems, even something simple like exporting charts from Libreoffice. I keep getting told, upgrade to newest version, before reporting bugs. It is getting really hard to do that, and so, I can no longer export charts with labels. I keep partitions of old Debian Stretch just for doing some things. Before long, we will pine for the days of running simple OS like Apple II and Commodore, back when there were no upgrades needed.
@DennisHolmberg-sl1hz 2 days ago It's been years since they all started dropping 32 bit Linux support. So this silliness started awhile back. AI is just the latest excuse.
@alan83251 1 day ago AI pushing us on all sides towards not owning our own hardware. High-end hardware is bought up by data centers, low-end hardware losing kernel support.
@Notsoknown-411 1 day ago Corpos and gov are destroying what they can't control/monetize
@Comm0ut 1 day ago May we have some insight into the REAL scope of the issue as in how many users will be genuinely affected?
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Anonymous2026-08-12 3:01
в4н 1 day ago это практически не прикрытый сговор с производителями железа, с целью предотвратить "повторное использование специализированного оборудования для майнинга в задачах искусственного интеллекта"
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Anonymous2026-08-12 3:01
205 v4n 1 day ago This is a barely disguised collusion with hardware manufacturers aimed at preventing the "reuse of specialized mining equipment for artificial intelligence tasks."
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Anonymous2026-08-12 3:02
@Edgard3939 1 day ago they're nuts!!! I even don't have a new PC, only a one from 1998 that my dad brought using with Linux, still saving for something used and cheap, and theses dumb devs with their delusional Llm telling them to just delete the problem instead of trying to fixing it are the worse
@user-mt4zr5kp7h 13 hours ago I see no problem with removing stuff this old. They're not removing it from existing kernels. Why does 20 year old hardware need a 2026 kernel update? That's just silly. All the guy's saying is, we need to find someone dedicated to maintain this, otherwise it's gotta come out. And he's right. You can't support the same hardware forever. You just can't. The kernel would be massive. Some things have to go to make room for newer stuff. If your computer's newer than 15 years old, you're never gonna have a problem. And you made the point yourself. They haven't needed to be updated for years and years and years. Yet you want the latest kernel to still support that old hardware? That doesn't make sense. You're wrong, bro. They're not going into legacy kurdles and removing it out of them. What they're doing is perfectly fine.😊
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@mediastreamview9528 2 days ago So create a custom kernel & dual boot it to avoid losing older hardware support.
What is stopping anyone from booting into their preferred kernel ?
@WolfyVoids 2 days ago When you look at it, it's for ancient hardware, like.. processors from 1989 and 99.
I know that it isn't an excellent thing to happen, but AI is poised to make modern (2026l hardware dangerous to use in a few years, so it's a miracle it's only happening to extremely old systems, most Linux users definitely don't use.
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@Handlemybandle 2 days ago couple years ago 2002 👴
@kokodin5895 7 hours ago honestly all those vintage drivers should be transplanted to a linkable external kernel module, so it stay separate from kernel and ai don't care about it, rustyfication of the code would not afect it. and if you belive in less loading drivers is faster computer, it could stay offline if you don't have hardware for it and you be happy too
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@gbmillergb 1 day ago Linux is digging its own grave.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 3:04
@23jfk 2 days ago Microsoftization of Linux.
@saksaelectronicsconsulting2023 16 hours ago (edited) Conspiracy theory hat on. Old Linux computers supported hardware that enabled plenty of electrical interfaces to the outside world locally and without going through internet or intranet. That ability enables internet-independent means of communication, amateur radio being one example, analog baseband modem, parallel and serial ports (direct, no USB).
Enter AI that messes with the drivers by finding "bugs". The kernel project then removes the drivers as a remedy. Hence no interfacing to outside world from old hardware. Force everybody under the inspective lens of Internet (capital I), AI, and you don't own your hardware -consumerism. Hats off.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 3:04
@23jfk 2 days ago Microsoftization of Linux.
@saksaelectronicsconsulting2023 16 hours ago (edited) Conspiracy theory hat on. Old Linux computers supported hardware that enabled plenty of electrical interfaces to the outside world locally and without going through internet or intranet. That ability enables internet-independent means of communication, amateur radio being one example, analog baseband modem, parallel and serial ports (direct, no USB).
Enter AI that messes with the drivers by finding "bugs". The kernel project then removes the drivers as a remedy. Hence no interfacing to outside world from old hardware. Force everybody under the inspective lens of Internet (capital I), AI, and you don't own your hardware -consumerism. Hats off.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 3:21
@JessterKing 1 day ago I've seen a few people talking about how they're trying to remove the ability of enthusiasts to build their own computers and force everyone to use a thin client type box to rent CPU, RAM, GPU ect in the cloud, in all these data centers they're trying to build. This issue seems to be another prong of that attack.
@doomshroom7682 1 day ago And Caesar wept
@brined_soul 1 day ago Linux might just be a very longterm variant of the old bait and switch.....
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Anonymous2026-08-12 3:22
@TheAlchaemist 4 hours ago HAM operator and retrocomputer enthusiast here... usually attending to hamfests and retro meetings, etc etc etc... Linux being able to support ancient protocols and equipment was its main appeal for us. Of course, we are 0.01% of users... and we'll end up using versions frozen. But we will be paying for a problem that we did not create, and the problem is not truly AI, but IDIOTS using AI...
@davemason2290 2 days ago I'll have to look at the Amateur Radio drivers that are being removed. If it affects me I'll unfortunately have to move to Windows.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 7:55
@N3G4T3 2 days ago My brother has a new wireless card that worked fine, but now doesn't.
@Josh-Kelm 2 days ago Computing is over because idiocracy can't keep the lights on, and we won't have electricity in 5 years. 2
@etherallax 2 days ago Good Linux
@Ivan-pr7ku 2 days ago Hardware moat comes for Linux.
@dansabo3562 6 hours ago Blank_Dan’s First Rule of Deleting Code: When you delete code you are doing God’s work. 1
@dansabo3562 6 hours ago Every line of deleted code has no bugs. Takes zero seconds to compile. Zero tests to write. Zero minutes to review. You are as wrong as you can possibly be.
@jose_lucio_br 2 days ago This is hour of BSD...
@brianschuetz2614 1 day ago (edited) A friend of mine had an old laptop that he gave to another friend, but it was too sluggish for Windows, so I installed MX Linux on it with a window manager. Breathed new life into it. If they keep this up, that will become a thing of the past.
As someone said, maybe the kernel should be forked. One fork for modern hardware and another to support older tech. Stable. Rust free. AI free. Modified only when an actual problem is identified. 1
@anotherelvis 1 day ago (edited) Alternatively some of the old insecure divers should be maintained out of the Linux tree, until the bugs have been fixed.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 7:56
@lexlayabout5757 2 days ago My keyboard is 40 years old.
@docchocobo 2 days ago Shows you how idiotic even supposedly smart people are getting these days. This goes against everything I was taught in programming. If the code works and it works well and it doesn't do anything it's not supposed to do then why mess with it? That's called Reinventing the wheel if it works don't touch it 1
@n7565j 2 days ago Linux is starting to sound like Microsoft... MS has been hoping for a reason to "help" make Linux less useful... Guess this is it!
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Anonymous2026-08-12 7:56
@HBT.Dallian 2 days ago Just because my car is not as efficient as more modern cars, that it can not reach the same speed does not mean that it can no longer take me places. A tool is usueful as long as it can do the job. Does not matter if it is 50 years old.
@rockmanx2002 2 days ago AI zealots: "Remove all legacy hardware support and hardware from any and all platforms to appease our new AI overlords" Me: "You will pry my Commodore 64 out of my cold, dead hands."
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Anonymous2026-08-12 7:57
@societefaitfaillite445 1 day ago (edited) hardware taxes was business model of microsoft why linux can't copy the strategy, requesting manufacturer to pay taxes so Ai might maintain the driver. it is totally fair for linus to want to cash in he was clear he didn't like stallman's vision for GPLv3 that would force google to show it's code for free. linus post 2008 beleives money makes for better code
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Anonymous2026-08-12 7:58
@jj49er 2 days ago Things used to be passed down from generation to generation. Now they want you to throw everything sway after a couple years.
@IdeA-InformaticaDeAvanzada 15 hours ago (edited) Just take a look at the MAIN sponsors of the Linux Foundation and you will understand the Trojan Horse that is moving this into this direction.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 7:59
@BSzili 1 day ago You might say supporting 35 year hardware doesn't have much use outside hobbyist projects, but you'd be surprised how viable 20 year old hardware can be as a daily driver. Sure it's going to be slow, but you can even watch YouTube videos on it. Yet what does the Linux Kernel team do at the height of new hardware getting really expensive due to AI? They drop support for more and more old hardware. 6 1
@_mend4mad_11 21 hours ago 386 is not 20 years old... Its 40-50 years old, it literally 70-80s computers. And yes, you can watch youtube on them, but prolly 360p-720p max 25-30fps, depending on what you have. 2004 era hardware is 64bit, more like x86_64. it can load latest linux kernel. Its athlon AMD cpu era, man.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 8:00
@Kerpymon 1 day ago Linux is great, linux is awesome. Thats something I definitely said in 2004. The past few years...not so much. 4 1
@zacharysandberg 1 day ago I was running FreeBSD and Linux in 2004. Both were awesome back then. Modern Linux feels nothing like the good old days
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Anonymous2026-08-12 8:00
@Kerpymon 1 day ago Linux is great, linux is awesome. Thats something I definitely said in 2004. The past few years...not so much. 4 1
@zacharysandberg 1 day ago I was running FreeBSD and Linux in 2004. Both were awesome back then. Modern Linux feels nothing like the good old days
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Anonymous2026-08-12 8:48
@BetterWorse-ge6ci 2 days ago (edited) The VAST majority of what LLMs put out is garbage... 'hallucination', not actually anything meaningful.
LOL AMATEUR RADIO. Of course, something so incredibly important if SHTF is being (soft) turned off. How political. 1
@professionalelectronics3158 1 day ago The reason i use linux over BSD because of the hardware support.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 8:49
@oldowleye3161 2 days ago Or how big tech gains more control on the hardware and distroys linux once and for all - big tech are criminals and linus tordvals got on there side
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Anonymous2026-08-12 8:50
2 days ago Much of this is probably planned by those behind the LLMs and their friends in the hardware cartel to sell more hardware.
@Enlighten-nah 2 days ago Because the real life "Skynet" realize that humans can rely on linux backward compatibility to run offline or outside the network computers. Now they are forcing the Linux developers to sabotage that ability of the operating system.
@conto7032 21 hours ago Well IT IS BROKE if LLM found bug ... 3:40 Critical vulnerability can live in old code for decades and then we find out some bug like that can lead to remote access ...
@farneyman 2 days ago When Devs deliberately destroy usability with some bs excuse, then you know they are saboteurs. If Microsoft said 'we're removing backwards compatibility because... AI...' no one would believe it, and since many Linux devs immediately threw their support behind government surveillance age verification they deserve no benefit of the doubt.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 8:51
@vec4me 4 hours ago (edited) LLMs will eventually create operating systems on demand, it’s inevitable, but Linux is literally accelerating their fate by doing this… It’s self-destruction.
@x260houtori 2 days ago So now I'm afraid to update my Linux machine great.
@736939 16 hours ago They do the right thing, so many old devices but Linux overloaded with drivers 🤡 On some point, this is necessary to be done!
@geographicaloddity2 23 hours ago (edited) AI is the worst thing to happen to computing maybe ever. But maybe this is a feature to keep on Windows?
@WackyT08 18 hours ago Waiting for Linux to require a TPM chip.
@Minuteworld-s8x 2 days ago linux is dying. i was gonna use it come 2032 after windows 10 ltsc but it seems like it won't even last till then
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Anonymous2026-08-12 8:52
@Minuteworld-s8x 2 days ago linux is dying. i was gonna use it come 2032 after windows 10 ltsc but it seems like it won't even last till then. 1 1
@0x07AD 2 days ago Move to a BSD. It supports binary Linux applications.
AI is trash. 1
@deniskhafizov6827 2 days ago 3c905x is one of the most generic NIC drivers I can imagine, and an immensely popular in 90x corresponding network card. Dropping it is a crime against compatibility
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Anonymous2026-08-12 8:53
@tryscience 1 day ago Sounds like someone is trying to sabotage Linux adoption by submitting these bug reports. The less hardware is supported, the fewer users will adopt it.
@michaelhubbard623 1 day ago this is all stuff i use. the old science stuff cant dissapear. if you can hack it you do need to find a way for it to be safe.
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Anonymous2026-08-12 8:53
@damnfunnychicken 2 days ago so in other words big tech companies figured people would circumvent their cirlcejerk and get modern software running with old hardware ...ie x9dri-f w p100 setup or alike to get by somehow in this ai boom. they dont deserve another penny. theyre going with shady laws for their "rights" do destroy your neighborhood in the name of datacenters, give people a RIDICULOUS almost unmeasurable ammount of ai for far to much money while keeping the sea getting sucked dry for their personal ai which is the main reason for those giant tech centers. theyre nodes. and ones everything is set up, the steering starts. youll understand in time -.- ...when its to late. u know the sayin in the land of the blind the guy with one eye...is in hell surrounded by mor0n
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Anonymous2026-08-12 8:54
@trionghost 2 days ago The time has come to fork the kernel. Make Inux without "L", which will be based on last kernel without this *hit.
@dougphillips5686 1 day ago going back to freebsd
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Anonymous2026-08-12 8:55
@ivanpaulostome2895 1 day ago (edited) Governments worldwide start to "dominate" (or exterminate) free coders, bargaining with them to develop leftist closed source blobs toward population (Public Software) inside free software. The proof is that: the majority of "public" developments are made in "public" universities. Hardware pays a lot of taxes, so they start to develop codes with some specific "needs", and governments start asking Linux users to comply with "peeping tom" free offerings. At the other side, what is maintaining retro communities, are easy to find drivers for old disconnected Windows. Older tools such as Borland are becoming more and more popular nowadays. AI is trying to find hardware flaws that are deemed as "unfixable" to converge government oligarchs and hardware makers interests into a proprietary Linux called "Public Software". Neo rich "Free Software Shiites" (with government ties) against "underpowered pragmatics": Less repos, and less free software culture (less discussions).
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Anonymous2026-08-12 22:00
@bradleypariah 7 hours ago I have been using a MacBook Pro 2012/2013 for Linux since literally 2012/2013. Ever since kernel 7 came out, support for my Broadcom chip was basically dropped, and it became impossible to get stable Wi-Fi on any modern version of Debian, Ubuntu, or Fedora. Luckily, there are board adapters and Intel chips online for cheap, so I swapped my NIC out, but I was really taken aback by my hardware just being forgotten like that. Yeah, I know, my laptop is 13 years old. It's got an i7, 16GB of RAM, and an 512GB nVME SSD. How is that not enough for most people, you know?? Why would a machine like that not be supported?
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Anonymous2026-08-13 0:18
@karlhoffman9817 9 hours ago I remember in 2024 linux community discussed what will happen if Linus retire or die. Well FOSS Linus is dead and instead we have corporate Linus now. The rust support, there was a previous wave of code removal before... It also indicate that monolithic kernel is facing challenges, probably HURD will replace Linux, some distros already adopting
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Anonymous2026-08-13 0:18
@WolfgangKovach 9 hours ago In my country, new hardware is extremely expensive. I started using Linux years ago only because Windows 10 was not compatible with my hardware. 27
@tgheretford 10 hours ago Forcing people to upgrade because of AI at the same time we can't afford to upgrade because of AI.
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Anonymous2026-08-13 0:19
@chimichuflis 8 hours ago this is completly true, i have an old dell computer, and had to install w10 on it, cause current linux was not compatible with the video card at all, couldnt find a good way to make it work, switched to an older version of debian, and it worked but flatpak couldnt work properly on older debian versions, so i just gave up, it made me lost a whole day just messing arround with it
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Anonymous2026-08-13 1:16
@r.l.royalljr.3905 9 hours ago If anything, Linux Foundation is using AI as a cover for these actions instead of a justification. AI doesn't just reveal bugs in old libraries - it also helps you figure out how to mitigate them. If AI is surfacing more and more issues with old hardware drivers, why should I accept the conclusion of "we should get rid of these drivers" instead of "now that we know there's a problem, we should use AI to fix these drivers"?
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Anonymous2026-08-13 1:18
@TheAstrospace2 11 hours ago It's coming to the point where I would rather use Windows XP x64 bit edition with OneCoreAPI than modern linux at this point. 28 3
@GregoryAlbright-t3p 10 hours ago Oh look anti ai is just the same dorks who complain about everything complaining about this as well. 1 1
@uksuperrascal 9 hours ago LIKE 23 Try Tiny Core Linux 2
@James-l5s7k 5 hours ago @GregoryAlbright-t3p So you can't take real criticism so you seek to other your opponent. That's pretty evil and small minded of you.
No argument, no principles, just acting in a subhuman manner.
Typical of your kind!
I am now going to write a beautiful pascal program that writes "RUST SUCKS" :
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Anonymous2026-08-13 1:18
@James-l5s7k 5 hours ago @GregoryAlbright-t3p So you can't take real criticism so you seek to other your opponent. That's pretty evil and small minded of you.
No argument, no principles, just acting in a subhuman manner.
Typical of your kind!
I am now going to write a beautiful pascal program that writes "RUST SUCKS" :D 4
@yumbumgardner2394 5 hours ago It's time for Linux to be forked. 3
@snoflahke6575 10 hours ago he linux kernel is actively being demoted to 2nd lieutenant
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Anonymous2026-08-13 1:19
@James-l5s7k 5 hours ago When I was little, I always wondered who this kernel was...... and why wasn't he a general?
@Rakaziel 6 hours ago (edited) So the lefties have kicked out the people who actually know what they are doing and trying to substitute skill with
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Anonymous2026-08-13 1:20
@spectr-t4b 10 hours ago (edited) Soon Linux requirements would be higher than Windows 11. It will mark a real "year of Linux" !😅🤣😂 21 1
@uksuperrascal 9 hours ago Try Tiny Core Linux 1
@xsyetopz 9 hours ago It’s time for BSD to shine!
Or just go to T/2 Linux. 2
@anthonywalker6268 9 hours ago We all know he's talking about Brodie. 2
@supermanlw 10 hours ago Speaking practically, as they remove hardware support, what is the service lifecycle? Will the new hardware today have 10 years of long term support? Will support only last for 2 years if AI says it doesn't like it? 3
@alxkub 10 hours ago AI overlords don't want you to use your old hardware. 16
@paleopteryx 11 hours ago Maybe supporting the trans movement is getting more important for them than supporting old hardware. 105 24
@sxkb 10 hours ago Both are important but neither excludes each other. Also, please do not conflate pink-washing with support 2 9
@1984Variant 10 hours ago @sxkb what does supporting an ideology have to do with selling/upkeeping a product? 18 2
@herpderpinson6117 10 hours ago @1984Variant Spending effort on trumpeting a social meta astroturfed by the Mossad means less attention paid to CVEs being discovered by the Mossad. 7 1
@KenLou 10 hours ago The trans movement is all about getting rid of hardware. 27 6
@MarquisDeSang 9 hours ago Linux is the new Windows ans Temple OS is the new Linux 3
@Paul-A01 9 hours ago @sxkbdo you think their statements about lgbt issues are insincere? 2 5
@ashishkhatri2771 9 hours ago (edited) I like how all the conservatives have been proven right about how evil this cause is, 15 years later almost everyone agrees. It's even affecting quality of software. 14
@awesomeprograms4433 9 hours ago I'm a trans person, and I NOT endorse any of this. Please don't lump us together with a bunch of hacks. 2
@akulkis 9 hours ago ...than supporting ALREADY SUPPORTED hardware. 2
@uksuperrascal 9 hours ago LIKE 59 1
@sxkb 9 hours ago @Paul-A01 Yes. They companies are always plastering rainbow flags on products to convince us (the LGBT) to buy them. This is no different 4 4
@caela-uk 9 hours ago The two are entirely unrelated, what the hell g 😭🙏
@caela-uk 9 hours ago @KenLou where have you learned this from? 5
@sxkb 9 hours ago @herpderpinson6117 What does the Mossad have to do with the Linux Kernel?
@Paul-A01 8 hours ago @sxkbthat doesn't mean they don't believe in it. Do you have any reason to think they don't? 2 3
@kuronoch.1441 7 hours ago (edited) @Paul-A01Their authoritarian actions. Call me crazy but I can see a parallelism between what they are doing and what the Catholics are doing in the Middle Ages, things which they claim to despise. Some of them might be a little too devout in their ideology, which should be anathema for them as claiming to be progressives, but some of them are using their ideology and identity as both a status symbol and a cudgel at the same time to punish those they claim to be veering even slightly away from their orthodoxy, which, again, should be anathema. 1
@sxkb 6 hours ago @Paul-A01 Actions speak louder than words
@anderxale1 6 hours ago @caela-uk It's a poor taste joke about gender-affirming surgery 4
@lamikal2515 5 hours ago @anderxale1 You can accuse him of making bad jokes, but you can't call him a liar. 2 3
@anderxale1 5 hours ago (edited) @lamikal2515 mmm nobody claimed "liar"... and some add hardware. It's just a bad joke in poor taste, not a lie but also not true.
I'm just defining it. I'm not against or for it. "Who cares" is my take 1 2
@lamikal2515 4 hours ago @anderxale1 Truth is litteraly binary. Something is either true, or false. 2
@anderxale1 4 hours ago (edited) @lamikal2515 In terms of booleans you are correct. Human truth isn't so simple. Lying at times has truths, and truths at times have lies. It's the basis of comedy 1
@sloppyy 4 hours ago you guys are obsessed with us 1
@lilben4184 4 hours ago @kuronoch.1441 W medieval Catholicism. stop trying to make me like transformers 1
@Mr.Riojas 7 hours ago AI is clearly making Linux developers stupid
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Anonymous2026-08-13 4:50
@Mrclean308 11 hours ago Exceptional people create awesome things, then if it becomes popular, normal people will take the controls and ruin it. The cycle continues. Unfortunately the awesome can't last forever
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Anonymous2026-08-13 4:50
@tikkasen_urakointi 8 hours ago It seems to me that those now removed device drivers weren't actively "supported" to begin with. They were left in the codebase as is, and they worked because driver code doesn't need to be changed that often. And now someone came up with a stupid reason to remove them. 1
@raidenab4260 10 hours ago (edited) I wonder how long it will be before AI deems TPM 2 (or 3) and/or other specifications mandatory for running Linux. That wretched Secure Boot is already implemented... I hope we don't end up wishing for Windows... 1 1
@grumpybeemer8637 3 hours ago Haiku is looking better and better
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Anonymous2026-08-13 4:51
@weremax 10 hours ago The Foundations have been infiltrated and corrupted. Time for a new revolution
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Anonymous2026-08-13 6:32
@Stabington 12 minutes ago Maybe this is the time to sort out the increasingly glaring issue that a monolithic kernel, may not be the way. It is actually getting a bit bloated. I recently booted up my 15 year old T420, trying different OS. Threw bare bones Devuan on it, ran 'free -h', and over 250 MB RAM used in a tty1 terminal! Windows XP use less than 100 MB on a graphical desktop. Does it have to be like this?
@30cheesepizzas51 11 hours ago Really surprising considering how popular retro computers have become. 1
@Josh-Kelm 16 hours ago Just use an old version of Mint. There is an old PC I have that would only take Mint 20 or less for some reason, and I mean 21 literally wouldn't install. Keep some old distro ISOs around. Don't rely on the latest always.
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Anonymous2026-08-13 6:36
@someusername1 10 hours ago I think this is an inevitable corollary of the combination of technological progress, the weight of historical development, and (ironically) the success of Linux (especially commercial success).
(As well as to some extent the essentially kernel-bound nature of Linux drivers. I.e. It is in part a technological structure issue).
There was always going to come a time when there was just too much to maintain, when it became too top-heavy, and this would be true no matter how Linux was funded and no matter that LLMs are here now.
But this is also a sign of who is paying the bills. Linux has long since ceased to be a hobby; it's now big business. It's mainly hobbyists who want the old drivers in there but the hobbyists can't afford to pay the bills and mostly can't maintain the code themselves. Again, the broad success of Linux means that hobbyist users are not necessarily hobbyist kernel coders who can maintain code.
Let's just face it: Modern, up to date Linux is lost to hobbyists running old kit. That's gone. That ship has sailed already. LLM AIs are forcing the issue, but it was happening anyway. It was always inevitable once Linux hit commercial success.
But it's not all doom and gloom: Hobbyist use of Linux is not dead. For the use case of most hobby projects there is no harm whatsoever in running old kernels. So what if it's not new and shiny? It's old kit anyway.
Also, the fork word applies here. I can see a time where Linux as we currently know it splinters, where we can no longer think of a singular mainline Linux kernel.
It is entirely possible that we might end up with (1) a commercial, bang up to date kernel (i.e. what is currently the mainline kernel), and (2) one or more 'traditional' kernels that do keep old drivers and have a different, non-commercial ethos, that do support old hardware, and which could in time possibly significantly diverge from mainline commercial Linux. They could be called some else entirely.
Linux (the mainline commercial 'core') would by that time have become near-proprietary, despite presumably still being GPL. Interesting future, isn't it.
Linux as we know it is dead. Long live Linux. (And the BSDs, and even illumos, and the Linuxes of tomorrow that are developing gradually and more quietly).
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Anonymous2026-08-13 6:37
@OmnisR 10 hours ago Need a kernel with up to date security patches specifically for old devices
@bimotok757 14 hours ago There are many Linux distro. I used Buildroot Linux on ARM processor single core 300 MHz, 128 MB storage, and 64 MB RAM for embedded system.
@DustinKrejci 1 hour ago is any one wanting to cofound a new os with me ?
@qnbits 6 hours ago I want to install Debian Potato on an old desktop to use the parallel port as a GPIO with python pyparallel.
@glensumner3425 8 hours ago I installed ubuntu more than 20 years ago on what was then an old machine, I've been doing it for years it is kind what linux has been about. givun up windows ( I have a vm for a few things its never on). Old machines and new they all work the same and old needs not to be thrown away why should it?
@stam_ehad 10 hours ago Kinda sad, My first experience with Linux was installing it on eeepc to get some performance out of it
@fredmckinney8933 11 hours ago (edited) Wow...just wow! I can't believe how Linux is now aiming for MEDIOCRITY! Time to fork Linux, looks like. BTW, I consider AI to be OF THE DEVIL and possibly be the Antichrist itself. 1
@ligerstripe99 7 hours ago Here is what you do since you have money. 1. fork the kernel version from just before the first removal. 2. back-port all other changes, minus the removal. This can be automated.
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Anonymous2026-08-13 6:39
@ligerstripe99 7 hours ago Here is what you do since you have money. 1. fork the kernel version from just before the first removal. 2. back-port all other changes, minus the removal. This can be automated. 3. post it as linux-libre. 4. use your money to pay for bug hunters. 1
@michaelsanchez1361 5 hours ago linux-libre already exists
@JoshOsRocks 6 hours ago I can't even get fedora 44 live environment to load in a vm
@Dinscurge 4 hours ago not really directly related, but hopefully im wrong and ai isnt an ongoing disaster in general for the human race, but atleast in my not that boomer of a lifetime i have seen even fully developed(more or less) adult people fall into simple traps of using some new tool as a crutch and they become significantly less ingenious, like get into 3d printing or cnc and then that proverb if you're a hammer every problem looks like a nail hits, and they forget you can do other types of fabrication like welding bending forming. i mean schooling in general seems to be becoming a disaster if you were to say theres no geopolitical/socio-economic happenings and everything else was the same, how could kids possibly have degrading literacy or basic arithmetic when they have increased access to research materials/help different techniques, easier access to figure out things like if they were dyslexic or if they are nearsighted and the teacher has them sitting too far back and they cant see good to read. that maybe there was something to that you might not always have a calculator thing, where people just google the problem they are having and its got that purple ive clicked the link before highlight because their memory recall is such a state they just look up the thing they need when they need it and theres no point to remember it at all. least i recall there was countries going towards banning tablets and stuff in gradeschools going back to pencil and paper. or for more goal or results based learners, like say for me i didnt start to practice programming for the sake of doing it, i had things i wanted to do in a way that other people werent doing, if you have to learn a skill to finish a project, that project could get you to learn something you otherwise wouldnt have, if you have a tool that can just do it well enough for you, why learn that skill? how many people started doing things because they had to not for the sake of doing it? i mean how does one know they want to do something for the sake of doing it if they have never done it in the first place? that i think alot of people are gonna get just rekt by being able to hit the gimmie the thing i wanted instantly button, instead of having to deal with the more harsh reality of having to suck at something and do it with great repetition until they get proficient enough to do the things they want to do, not just that one skill, but the maturity the learning experience in general about yourself and the world, how dedication perseverance work, what people mean when they say someone is a hard worker or has good work ethic, time/project management, how things work, how long it takes to do things, how long it takes to learn things, you can start to get ideas about things and yourself
@stony4321 9 hours ago To bad that was nice to keep a old machine running it instead of throwing it away. I guss I'll have to use net bsd for that.
@billchatfield3064 5 hours ago These changes are because young people who don't understand why we are where we are, are making bad decisions. They're determined to repeat the mistakes of the past, just like antivaxxers.
@N.A._McBee 16 hours ago (edited) Linux is about to die. All things in life come in phases, and Linux is phasing out. Let's concentrate on the other options like BSD variants and similar-minded projects. Linus and Greg do not understand yet, that they are going to destroy the groundwork of Linux. The Times They Are a-Changin :) 24 6
@crapmalls 16 hours ago Does BSD run steam? 4 1
@boyscout399 15 hours ago I think you overestimate the desire to keep 20+ year old hardware running. If including that device driver opens a security hole in the operating system that no one cares to fix, i'd rather have everyone be secure than support a certain 30 year old mouse. 2 3
@borlibaer 15 hours ago @crapmalls😂
@silentJET85 15 hours ago @boyscout399 Including such a driver wouldn't affect anyone who isn't using that hardware. 1 2
@boyscout399 15 hours ago @silentJET85 you say that very confidently. that's probably the case in the majority of the bugs, but some of them might open holes even if not actively being used. 1 1
@chrilinledi6943 15 hours ago not using computer will make it super secure. why don't everyone do it however? 3
@rainmannoodles 5 hours ago Linux kernel in 2026: ✅ Rusty Clankers
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Anonymous2026-08-13 6:40
@jakobw135 11 hours ago Didn’t Linus Torvalds embrace AI? So what does he say now based on what you just revealed? Isn’t the point of Linux to run on almost ALL hardware out there? So WHY are normal people allowing this to happen?
@ruthlessadmin 15 hours ago Can't the old drivers be made available separately and still be compiled in optionally, or as modules? I can understand cleaning up the main code base, but completely removing old, stable hardware support seems asinine. In any case, how does stable code that doesn't need to be touched, affect a developer's productivity, with or without AI? 1
@barbodrz8645 13 hours ago All of the drivers ware part of the monolithic kernel in Linux but since it's not a micro kernel it won't be separate at. Examples for monolithic kernels Linux and Darwin for macos I think and I think nt for windows and micro kernels are hurd kernel from gnu and minix I think which you gotta fact check some of these but many kernels in use are monolithic ones right and are being updated more often
@User-sj1pl 12 hours ago Use another distro then? This is how open source software works.
@Vita-Linux 8 hours ago Just go to BSD, that's what i will have to do at the end, when Arch completely screw things up, after that Void which is already woke, could get worse than what it is, and if Void is not even an option, damn.. i guess go back to Windows and dualbooting with BSD, linux was great, i discovered it for the first time in late 2021, but after just a few years it completely went off the rails
@SarcasticTofu 6 hours ago It's high time to make a hard fork Linux using the very last Rust free AI free version of Linux Kernel 6.0.19.. Linux seems to be a dead system.. lets fork it and call it something like AliveSys or UAlive (Unix Alive).. just like XLibre has been forked and SonicDE has just born.. then we can add newer hardware support slowly.. The AliveSys should exclusively RUST and WOKE free
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Anonymous2026-08-13 6:42
@SarcasticTofu 6 hours ago It's high time to make a hard fork Linux using the very last Rust free AI free version of Linux Kernel 6.0.19.. Linux seems to be a dead system.. lets fork it and call it something like AliveSys or UAlive (Unix Alive).. just like XLibre has been forked and SonicDE has just born.. then we can add newer hardware support slowly.. The AliveSys should exclusively RUST and WOKE free.
@Idonthaveany5150 15 hours ago this is lame and gay. na for real you will own nothing and be happy. 2
@a-soul-saved-by-God-s-grace 14 hours ago (edited) timestamp 5:19… Proverbs 24:21-23 21 My son, fear thou the LORD and the king: •and• ••meddle not•• •with them• •that are• ••given to•• ••change••: 22 For their •calamity• shall rise suddenly; and who knoweth the ruin of them both? 23 These things also belong to the wise. It is not good to have respect of persons in judgment.
[from, the LORD's Book in English{which was nicknamed the KJBible}; which is, the book of the LORD{Isaiah 34:16; Psalm 56:8}]
@yumbumgardner2394 10 hours ago Linus Torvalds went full capitalist, you own nothing and be very unhappy. 2 1
@grumpybeemer8637 4 hours ago Linus Torvalds is anything **BUT** a "capitalist". He's blown past socialist to full-out Communist.
@crapmalls 16 hours ago Pineappley
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Anonymous2026-08-13 6:43
@grumpybeemer8637 4 hours ago I had hoped to see the banished Russian kernel developers start up their own fork of the Linux kernel. Maybe even remove any of that infestation of Wayland and Rust code, along with undoing all the malicious damage in GTK+ from the GNOME project
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Anonymous2026-08-13 6:44
7 hours ago “They would be glad to have you as a maintainer: put up or shut up”: This is not true. The Linux kernel would NOT be happy to have a random hobbiest or hacker as a contributor: in fact today they rarely allow it: nearly all kernel programmers are paid employees today. Linux’s Code of Conduct explicitly forbids the type of communication style that hobbyists and hackers engage in. Hackers are NOT permitted to contribute to the kernel any longer: go try it: your code will NEVER EVER be accepted these days. So stop being a disingenuous liar. The last hacker derived code that existed in the Linux kernel was reiserfs: it was removed because the current people who have effected a conversion upon what was once the property of hackers: did not like reisers beliefs and actions during a custody dispute: the code worked till the day it was removed: and then the current usurpers entryists and thieves mockingly said they freed up 100kb for wallpapers. Just as they mockingly say go fork it when they then ban anyone who tries from all the platforms they and the companies they are employed by control