This Site Is Being Used As A Weapon To Proliferate Fake News
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Anonymous2016-12-13 21:10
As someone who genuinely believes in freedom of speech, I will happily sit here and argue with anybody, including those mentally deficient enough to identify with far right hate politics. But what is freedom of speech? Is it sitting alone in a room talking to a wall? When we discuss freedom of speech, I argue that what we actually mean is the freedom for our opinion to reach others. It is extremely difficult for any opinion on progrider to reach others unless it is sanctioned by the far right, and this is because they are using systematic vote manipulation to attack non-conformist posters with massive numbers of downvotes. As users are aware, any comment with a lower rating than minus four is hidden by default, and any thread in the minus figures is unlikely to be seen by anybody not specifically looking for it.
And so we have a curious situation where progrider is designed as a platform for free speech, yet the only political speech we see comes from neo-Nazis and other far right goose-steppers. Hence, I argue that there is a large conflict of interests between admin-baka and the handful of users who are dominating progrider. The simple, irrefutable fact is that, were the far right prepared to accept a free speech environment, we would be seeing speech coming from places other than the far right. We are not seeing this, and hence I argue the presence of the far right is proving to be in conflict with progriders's own anti-censorship philosophy.
Of course, a bigger problem even than the sage attacks and/or flooding of comment chains, are the fake news stories being strategically pushed to the top of the page. I mean, we are just seeing ludicrously stupid narratives being spammed at people through sites which have been thoroughly exposed as completely bunk. A fine example is the latest effort to convince progrider users/visitors that the CIA are enemies of America for publishing a report that Russian hackers tried to influence the election in favour of Donald Trump. We have seen a massive number of threads vote-manipulated to the top of the page which seem to imply that the Russians are American patriots and the CIA are American traitors. Just simply ridiculous angles which are specifically being spammed at people.
I understand that there is an argument to be had in saying people are free to believe what they want. They don't have to be taken in by this wave of bullshit being served up by the "alt" (i.e. far) right. But I also believe this is too simplistic. It doesn't account for the fact that the wingnuts are similarly free to lie their sweet faces off. We can't really blame people for being lied to, but at the same time they may take egregious courses of action while under the influence of those lies. Hence, I believe we all have a collective responsibility to fight this war on truth begun by the right wing.
I have been your resident liberal shitposter. Thanks for listening.
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Anonymous2016-12-13 21:12
JEWS
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Anonymous2016-12-13 21:38
Upvote this to the frontpage. We can stop Drumpf and the facists! P.S.Thanks for the gold stranger
One of those words is redundant. It can't be liberal, because what libtard has ever had a job to be made redundant from in the first place? None. Which means that shitposter is redundant. All liberals are shitposters and when they express their "ideas" it is shitposting. That goes without being said, it is evidenced in the content of their expression.
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Anonymous2016-12-14 12:42
A fine example is the latest effort to convince progrider users/visitors that the CIA are enemies of America for publishing a report that Russian hackers tried to influence the election in favour of Donald Trump. We have seen a massive number of threads vote-manipulated to the top of the page which seem to imply that the Russians are American patriots and the CIA are American traitors. Just simply ridiculous angles which are specifically being spammed at people.
Because, you know, these guys are always publishing their documents... Just wait until the caa/fba/asa assassinates him!
this wave of bullshit being served up by the "alt" (i.e. far) right
Leftist mainstream media are the ones serving up endless bullshit and distorted information. They are so corrupt that even Infowars seems like a trustworthy news source in comparison.
Just simply ridiculous angles which are specifically being spammed at people.
You know what's ridiculous? This "Russia hacked the US elections" bullshit that is spammed without any proof. Besides, the only thing they're claiming is that Russia hacked the DNC servers, not the actual election servers, but the tone these baseless accusations are spewed it implies that Russia is somehow responsible for Trump winning. And brainless leftists like you with no critical thinking abilities are actually believing this Clinton propaganda as fact! This is why freedom of speech is so vitally important. We need to get out the truth which leftist establishment goons are trying to conceal from the people.
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>>34 Even if Russia did indeed hack the DNC servers (I'm doubting this narrative), all they did was leak the truth that the American voters deserve to know. The DNC did real contemptible conspiracies to manipulate the election process. I am completely angry with the DNC and their contempt over the nation of America.
DKIM has the beneficial side-effect of causing messages to become "cryptographically non-repudiable"; that is, after the email has been sent, the sender cannot credibly repudiate the message and say that it is a forgery.
>>45 You may as well just call your dots "whoms" if you're goal is to go all out pretentious.....
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Anonymous2016-12-30 1:06
Neocons multiply by spreading their message early and often to the lowest common denominator groups of people. They cast a wide net, and they target the emotionally vulnerable with reactionary messages. There's no sensible discussion to be had with these folks, their ideology dictates that 'leftists' like us are completely degenerate and cannot be reasoned with. There is no empathy or logic, just more and more spammed propaganda with no thought behind it. Without knowing it, they perpetuate the lie that the upper class have fed to conservatives for years and years, and keep themselves neatly in line and submissive to the authority of real wealth. This type of person is banned everywhere else, either by way of not being able to resist saying Nigger on a public forum, or by eventual vicious/aggressive behavior in arguments or their own spam. They only survive in places like stormfront.org or those places naive enough to believe in the ideal of completely anonymous free speech widening the range of quality in discussion.
That said, it's important to have empathy for people like this. Radical conservatives exist all around you in secret, some may even be your friends. Some are definitely generally good people who give back to their communities and do what is right in their daily lives. You cannot stoop to the level of writing someone off as mentally handicapped or a total asshole because they disagree with you philosophically. It's only American to abide and live alongside all fellow citizens, casting aside class and political differences in the sake of empathy, unity, and the well-being of the common citizens that are your neighbors and countrymen.
signed, a fellow liberal shitposter not wishing to waste time arguing with caricatures of radical right-wing ideologues parroting hateful things in /lounge/
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Anonymous2016-12-30 1:34
>>49 Partisanship is inherently a system to separate the people into divisive groups bound to fight amoungst themselves rather than against those who hold the power.
We should allow both sides to build walls and residential buildings on the others territory!
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Anonymous2017-01-02 2:46
ECAJ’s letter explained that Israeli military law is applied in the West Bank “as a requirement of international law”, that the crimes found to have been committed by Palestinian minors “are usually violent crimes including murder”, and that UNICEF in its latest report has “commended Israel for implementing legislative and procedural changes to address the issues UNICEF had previously flagged regarding Israel’s treatment of Palestinian minors who are charged with such crimes”.
Palestinian Military law for Israel too?
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Anonymous2017-01-02 2:58
Under Israeli military law, CSCs are settlers armed and trained by the military to protect their settlements on behalf of the army. While CSCs are given policing powers and work in coordination with army forces, they are appointed by fellow settlers and directly employed by settlements.
In following the behaviour of the CSC guards over a decade, rights group Yesh Din has come across reports of guards doling out death threats and chasing Palestinian farmers from their fields at gunpoint to prevent them from harvesting, among other violations.
The Ministry of Defence, which gives money to settlements to pay CSC salaries, was not able to provide the current number of CSCs, nor was the Israeli army.
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Anonymous2017-01-02 6:24
With a work for the dole scheme like that, it's a wonder not all of the israelis live on the other side of the wall!