I'm thinking all this time playing and developing video games is wasted. Video games are catering to the same zombie-TV experience and dopamine addiction roller-coaster of movie industry. Video game skills are shit and people get way unhealthier with them. Like when you game, you don't mind eating shit food and pretend you live in the game. But you can't live in the game or escape from life like that. Escapism is bullshit: the "We reject your reality" cliche is not about freedom, just denial. Videogames are most degenerative brain functionality i've seen, people warp their minds around the game and plan their life towards better playtime, as if the game was really important. All these speedrunners, progamers, elite players are not gaining anything valuable, they just adapt their brains into reflexive "game reality" instead of real life.
One day, video games will be treated like cigarette smoking is today.
It will be considered a very bad habit, only partaked in by the underclass. Governments will pass heavy regulations limiting videogame consumption and advertisement. Gamers will be looked down upon as smokers are today. People of the future will look back and say, "how could those cretins have played so many video games all day? they must have been stupid".
>>11 >it's not time well spent Why? If you enjoyed it, you spent your time doing something enjoyable. When you are at the deathbed, you will be like "at least I enjoyed my time" not "oy I wish I'd spent more of my life experiencing how shitty the world is". Life is pretty much shitty and has no possibility of achievement since you are always saddled with a bone bag that will decay over time, rendering everything you do worthless, so it is a lower quality experience than video games which are built around the possibility of meaningful achievement.
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Anonymous2017-09-12 11:30
>>12 Gaming is one of the most degenerate hobbies known to man. You waste time and money, decay your mind and eyes, all for marginal enjoyment.
I didn't achieve anything positive outside of the games. At best it was a distraction, but it wasn't that effective as escapism. I think the whole idea of escapism in video games doesn't work, because they require too much effort for a very little "escapism": like you play more like working on the game/character/strategy/teamwork and escapism is confined to a vague feeling, the suspension of disbelief and belonging to game community. But that isn't supporting any escapism by default, you have to believe and work toward making yourself an "escapist" by ignoring and devaluing stuff in the real world. Basically "escapism" means your health, finances, social capital and worldview are replaced by the game status. I think of some people who could balance gaming and living, however they have iron discipline and are a tiny minority of gamers. The whole hardcore gaming scene is filled with psychological illness and misanthropic rejects, people who worship their games at expense of everything else. Its as if they were hiding their heads in the sand and don't care about the world around them. This is the meaning of "escapism".
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Anonymous2017-09-13 5:40
>>12 "Time well spent", people vastly underestimate time spent in game. I was spending like 7hours per day on Guild Wars, but it seemed like a few hours per day. I was neglecting showering and ate near the screen.
>>14 Clearly he's talking about in game achievements
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Anonymous2017-09-13 14:07
>>16 Nah that title belong to mobile game developers milking normies by millions. MMORPG require somewhat beefy PC and minimal skill. These games target children and mentally handicapped with only requirement is a phone and ability to tap on screen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la6vK6hI7rM
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Anonymous2017-09-13 14:46
I like MMORPGs with autoplay so I don't have to bother with all the tedious bits of actually having to play the game.
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Anonymous2017-09-13 15:14
>>18 MMOs also milk people. Somehow it's more addictive when there's skill to it.
>>21 Just like MMOs and mobile games, you need to pay a lot of money for it to happen.
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Anonymous2017-09-14 8:37
Imagine we're in the matrix and video games are another layer in the matrix. Instead of escapism, videogames is a path going deeper into the matrix.
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Anonymous2017-09-14 10:19
>>23 videogames is a path going deeper into the grave.
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Anonymous2017-09-14 10:27
playing mmos and mmorpgs..... Is it just living a second life, since you have to eat, make money, [whatever] while playing the mmos and mmorpgs as well as in "real" life? Doesn't this then prove that life is a simulation, an mmos and mmorpgs another being is playing?
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Anonymous2017-09-14 15:30
>>25 A simulation of what? For simulating anything, physical reality is overkill. All these atoms, photons/radiation, quantum mechanics, molecular forces. The computing power to simulate this..with 99.999% of that being wasted on stuff people never see but required to maintain realism.
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Anonymous2017-09-29 2:45
Well said Agreed
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Anonymous2017-09-29 5:31
Everything we do is escapism. Life is harsh and everyday is a struggle to survive and not die by our own hands or nature's. Going to work, advancing human understanding, or serving a peoples, having ideals, doing anything is just an escape from these harsh realities. Like drugs and video games and media. The world cannot be changed and anyone who tries is also escaping this fact by deluding himself into believing he is making a difference. Everyone finds a way to tell themselves they are not wrong, that what they are doing, as you say, "really important" and "valuable." The truth is nothing matters. Society has eroded to the point where the fathers have allowed their sons to be naked in this world. The opiates that were tradition, culture, religion, etc. are gone. They were there to keep us "sane" in an insane world. Or is it that we are trying to stay insane, running away from the truth, drugging ourselves up on dopamine and endorphins in whatever fashion we can to blind ourselves to this "sane" world. How can something so cruel and terrible and evil and painful be "sane?" How can it be "right?" No, it must not be, that's why I need to keep moving, keep keeping the mind off these thoughts, keep myself "sane."
It is a paradox. The world is painful and there is nothing an individual can do to change it, so he must change himself, but by changing himself he is just accepting his illusions. If you were to try to change the world, again you are believing you can, but the world is unchangeable so it is just another distraction. Accepting this is also an escape. The truth is it is painful and raw, and by "accepting it" deluding yourself that it is not painful is just another escape. So man has three options before him. He can continue his cycle of distraction, continue taking his "blue pill" daily and keeping himself asleep. Or maybe he'll choose the "red pill" and live a life without delusion, a pure and raw stream of pain will inhabit his entire existance. There won't be any escape or relief, once you've gotten a taste of the real how can you ever feel content going back to being without taste? You can't. You will try, but in the back of your head it will always fester, yelling, screaming, shaking to for you to wake up. Or maybe he will kill himself? If being asleep is the ultimate sin, but the pain of being awake is too painful and eternal, then the only relief is death itself. That is if you believe true that religions were useful constructs and that there is nothing after your death.
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Anonymous2017-09-29 9:01
Dunno. Sports games are good for exercising and a lot more fun, than just working out at gym. Also, games can promote team building.
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Anonymous2017-09-29 12:06
I largely stopped caring about video games after the sixth generation.
The only good videogames is where you don't associate yourself with the character: RTS, economic simulators(sim city), puzzles, board games. They actually train some skills.
>>37 So in this metaphor video games are a vehicle to create art just as a pencil is a tool to create art? What? That's absurd. I don't think you really thought this through.
Well, it would be construed as a piece of art to an artisan who crafts paintbrushes. The point, really, is that art is an end to a means. If a paintbrush is the means, then the end is what's on the canvas; if the means is crafting a wooden rod and fastening horse hairs or whatever onto that, then the paintbrush would be the end and thus art, in that context.
If the means is a means, and the art is also a means and there is no end, then what's the point of living?
>>36 You think the vomit that's thrown up on DeviantArt isn't art either? But it's certainly articulated through an artistic medium. Is art simply anything that's evocative, or is it anything articulated through a medium that's hallowed and sanctified by a rich history of things that are evocative and codified as art by association.
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Anonymous2017-10-10 11:12
>>40 If you put a paintbrush in an art gallery it is art. That is the lesson of Duchamp.
>>42 So was Fountain art because its being put in the museum was polarizing or because of the ethos that a museum provides?
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Anonymous2017-10-10 11:42
Duchamp is "modern" art which basically proclaims "everything i do is art, because reasons" resulting in shitty content(and with "Artists shit" literally this).
>>44 I don't understand your point. Duchamp is a dadaist and a reactionary, and you're making broad generalizations. And if you don't think that "She is Hot in the Ass" isn't at least vaguely amusing for the place it's presented in--well, I don't know what else to say. >>45 I would call cherry picking, but I have yet to understand what exactly your point is.
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Anonymous2017-10-10 15:13
>>46 The point today you can call videogames art, because the standard for art is incredibly low. Something like "interactive performance art" is below playing a videogame.
>>60 At least with video games (as expensive as they can be sometimes), you don't end up in massive debt.
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Anonymous2017-10-18 5:33
>>64 Acshually, there tons of people (called "whales") who spend thousands$$$ on video games(mostly via microtransactions, buying items) driving themself into debt.( this debt is of course smaller and limited to credit card capacity)
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Anonymous2017-10-18 5:37
>>62 Gaming skills are useless by themself but allow better reaction time and control(hand-eye coordination) that is beneficial when engaging in physical works. I'm sure only a fraction of gaming skills can transfer to real-world usage, and its mostly games simulating some realistic scenario or quick reaction/precision skills.
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Anonymous2017-10-18 13:12
>>66 That's just what gamers say. It's not actually true.
>>74 It's also propaganda from mainstream films and television. Feminization is a state of mind.
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Anonymous2017-10-22 1:18
>>77 Soy has been scientifically confirmed to turn people gay
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Anonymous2017-10-22 1:53
>>78 True. But even in the Asian nations where soy is most consumed, the majority of the population is still heterosexual, so there are other factors involved.
>>78 No it hasn't. Neither have the so-called xestrogens. Your body is very very good at filtring out toxins and excess. You are being memed on by kikes who want to demoralize you.
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Anonymous2017-10-22 5:27
>>80 What makes you think the kikes would not be up to some chicanery in the various medical fields in which they occupy? There's a disproportionate amount of them, especially in areas like oncology. Personally, I do think we should go back to traditional glassware to consume drink and foods and limit (or eliminate entirely) plastic containers. I don't even fully trust the non-BPA stuff. I do agree with you on the demoralization, they do enough of that with their control of the mass media as is.
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Anonymous2017-10-22 6:02
Videogames are simulacra of hunting/warfare, that tricks the brain its successful at some task.
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Anonymous2017-10-22 6:02
>>81 Yeah you're right. Even if "feminizing chemicals" aren't the biggest problem (I think mean are acting like this primarily because parents, schools, media offered no examples of positive masculinity and brainwashed them into worshiping femininity) it is still best to avoid birth control pills in tap water and plastic bottles and maybe even soy.
But even if you cut out all that shit out, you will probably find you still act like a little bitch compared to men raised in pro-male environments due to your conditioning. So being motivated to change your thought patterns and woman-like routine is the most important thing and that is tough if you convince yourself there are hidden chemicals making you gay.
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Anonymous2017-10-22 10:03
>hidden chemicals making you gay Are non-sense conspiracy theory(They making the frogs gay!), but listening to feminist propoganda instantly makes you gay. Words > Chemicals? Really makes you think..
>>84 You bitch. The presence of these "chemicals" and their connection to being gay/acting like a faggot are not black and white. Many people drink from plastic and don't act like pussies. But nobody who goes through a feminist upbringing doesn't act like a pussy, unless they improve themselves through fixing their brainwashing. You are just mad because you are pussified and therefore hate the idea that it would be possible to change. through hard work So you brain le chemicals even though that isn't based on science or even a real correlation. Classic bitch.
People also have screwed up hormones from all the processed foods and beverages.
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Anonymous2017-10-26 15:01
Video games suck
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Anonymous2017-10-27 0:18
>>90 Funny guy. If only you and video games stood next to eachother and compared EVERYTHING. You'd be chin down pal.
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Anonymous2017-10-27 13:08
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2151515-gaming-addiction-probably-isnt-a-real-condition-study-suggests/ “We didn’t see a large number of people with clinical problems,” says Weinstein. “The study’s results suggest that it’s not clear how many resources should go to gaming addiction, compared to other addictions like drugs.” Further analysis by the team showed that people who displayed some of the proposed symptoms of gaming addiction had lower “needs fulfilment”, meaning they were unhappy in other areas of life, such as relationships or their career.
This suggests that gaming might be a displacement activity for people in an unhappy situation, rather than an addiction, says Weinstein.
Six months later, the symptoms of gaming disorder were reduced in those who had become more content since the first questionnaire. “This is initial evidence that having more needs fulfilment in life can make people feel better about their gaming,” says Weinstein.
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Anonymous2017-10-27 13:38
Gaming addiction=Trading stress for fictional stress which forces out the real stress into hiding, then after gaming you feel better because you control the game(but you can't control real life)
>>101 Something about tetris players and drama/romance. Tetris itself will be just a game main character plays.
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Anonymous2017-11-07 2:28
>>104 They are like action films. People always self-insert as the hero while watching action films, video games just enhances that. Except for the video games that are not like action films.
I always associate myself with bad guys in action movies, because they are a lot edgier than dull heroes. So much cooler to be pedophile, than police officer.
>>115 No typo was made, friend. The site known as YouTube is run by an evil corporation censoring videos and views they don't like. Don't feed the monster, join the rebellion and start using HookTube today!
>>119 YouTube is going to die because it continues to go against the very content creators that made it successful in the first place and refuses to listen to reason. Best to accelerate its demise with HookTube.
>>117 Actually, I find that it's much easier to stream on hooktube if you simply copy the video location. I'm not sure exactly how hooktube works, but the YouTube videos it embeds actually subverts the kind of DRM and stuff that made videos previously un-streamable/downloadable via youtube-dl/mpv streamable. As I said, you just have to copy the video location. A slight inconvenience but a worthwhile compromise.
Also, the those userscripts that swap out YouTube urls with Hooktube addresses are really convenient. Personally, I think the argument that Hooktube hurts YouTube about as ridiculous as the argument that piracy hurts media creators, for much the same reason. I mean, even if you're watching videos on Hooktube, it's still YouTube that's the platform; even if you share videos via Hooktube, you're contributing to the popularity of a content creator that's primarily dependant on YouTube. Similarly, those Aussies who pirated Game of Thrones would have been more than eager to have purchased the video series had it been available. Despite what the propaganda says, the role of piracy is actually much simpler: it's a symptom of a failure to properly distribute media. And Netflix has proven to us (unfortunately) that piracy isn't actually antagonistic towards traditional means of consumption. That essay the EU funded that lobbyists are trying to suppress literally proves that piracy has no affect on the market.
If you really want to combat the YouTube problem, you need another consumption paradigm, not an alternative.
Although, I'm not saying that we should dismiss the lesser evil simply because it's still evil. When I share a video with my friends, I always share the Hooktube link with them (partly because the userscripts redirect me to Hooktube by default, making this super easy to pull off) because I respect them that much. But it's important to remember that Hooktube *is* the lesser *evil*. That is to say, it's inherently unethical and unsustainable. It's not antagonistic towards YouTube, despite what others say, because Hooktube could never exist outside of the YouTube paradigm, just like (conventional) piracy can't exist out of the data-is-commodity-trap paradigm. Hooktube doesn't mean we should stop looking for a *real* solution.
If you really want to combat the YouTube problem, you need another consumption paradigm, not an alternative.
I agree, however, the "paradigm" currently calls for censorship of views it dislikes and the only "alternative" to that is an alternative site that doesn't cave in to the pressure of this paradigm and censor.
Hooktube doesn't mean we should stop looking for a *real* solution.
Indeed. HookTube is largely just an intermediary until a more permanent solution can be found, or in the unlikely event that Alphabet/Google reverse their policies on YouTube.
>>124 In some cultures arranged marriage is the only way that culture is passed on. Obviously this is a no-go in most Western countries, since arranged marriage entails consummation, which is in many cases non-consensual. You could say, in a way, arranged marriages (at least through the Western lens) is a systematic form of rape. So Western liberals are at an impasse: how can you preserve a culture if a fundamental component of this culture is unethical? The answer is you can't. An "alternative paradigm" is much more than simply another YouTube. Ironically YouTube actually handles the role they assume quite well. Another YouTube alternative in the conventional sense would only be worse and less responsible than YouTube. It may simply be that a centralized media repository like YouTube is literally infeasible in an ethical World. A true, blue alternative paradigm would be another solution to the same problem, which means thinking outside of the box.
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Anonymous2017-11-13 7:25
Btw you don't need to buy/pirate/download/setup videogames. You can just watch other people playing/speedrunning the game on youtube. Its saves lots of effort, nerves and finger cartilage long-term.
Oh, okay, I guess I just won't exercise anymore since clearly watching it satisfies all my needs. Because all forms of recreation exist entirely for pure, hedonistic self-pleasure.
>>134 Somehow I feel like that isn't sufficient. Fascinating, though. The power of placebo is amazing.
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Anonymous2017-11-14 14:50
>>135 I think we'll get this effect in VR or while lucid dreaming. Lift some heavy-looking object in VR and brain thinks "We need moar muscle, disable myostatin asap".
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Anonymous2017-11-14 15:07
/fit/ is for brainlets. I'm going to marathon some fitness videos + active imagination.
Imaginary tourism : Google Street View Imaginary girlfriends : Tulpamancy Imaginary sex : porn/hentai Imaginary eating that also 100% healthy Imaginary trauma-free exercise Imaginary custom movies : lucid dreaming Imaginary video games :free and healthy
The brain is an amazing thing. Although I'd rather spend my time appreciating the natural world than wallowing in the metaphorical vomit-ridden pigsty of my own unassisted imagination.
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Anonymous2017-11-16 20:34
>>139 A medium similar to a hybrid movie/video game is possible with just imagination, its sort of daydreaming but plain daydreaming is beginner-tier: You can focus into daydream at the twilight edge before falling asleep and it become sort of lucid dreaming but you're not asleep and can feel reality too.
Video games are boring and repetitive and have zog messages hidden inside, kids are better off using meditation and chanting to achieve a feeling of accomplishment.
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Anonymous2019-07-24 18:08
>>143 (ignoring the sarcasm at meditation being boring(its only boring for NPCs failing at introspection and meta-cognitive thoughts, thus making meditation an exercise not to fall asleep))
Videogames become routine "work" when player stumbles on optimal techniques, glitch abuse and cheese tactics. c.f. speedrunning. Speedrunning is zero fun, all work. All pro-gamers train to "improve skills" not have fun or be entertained(only the viewers are entertained by skill). All competitive gaming evolves towards pro-gaming and eliminating fun, by min-maxing strategies and optimizing tactics to create a soulless "E-sport" as repetitive and boring as watching "MMA fighters" trying to dodge each other for half a hour.
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Anonymous2019-07-24 22:43
I just never could get into video games, despite trying to many times. It feels too much like work. I have enough work to do. I have literally never finished a single video game.
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Anonymous2019-07-24 22:47
I did enjoy Fallout New Vegas and GTAs mainly because of their aesthetic. I think if I could put on a VR headset and larp as a cowboy or a medieval peasant or some shit, that would be fun without having any missions. People want missions in games because they want to simulate the suffering of real life. I'd just rather walk around the environment.
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Anonymous2019-08-02 7:20
video game make you docile
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Anonymous2019-08-02 7:34
vibeogame bad computer bad book good
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Anonymous2019-08-02 7:48
Not just any book is good, it has to be a book published prior to Jews gaining control of society.
If books had been invented at the same time as the moving pictures, nobody would be saying books are better than movies because they would be just as pozzed and jewified much like contemporary books are.
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Anonymous2019-08-03 19:07
>>150 I've a big surprise for you: Jews wrote Bible (both old and new testament). And Bible is the most influential fantasy book in human history. No other book produced such amount of fanart, fanfiction and badly done cosplay.
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Anonymous2019-08-04 3:57
>>151 Interestingly, the Koran was written by a white man1.
>>152 Muhammad comes out of Jewish merchant family. He had a lot of money, but little power, so he invented Islam as a mean of getting political power for himself.
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Anonymous2019-08-04 11:08
>>153 Jews were white at the time, the 12 tribes of israel being the original 12 European ethnic groups. In fact, even modern day demonic Jews originated from white stock. However,, they, at some point, bred with the devil producing severe neurosis and long noses.
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Anonymous2019-08-04 11:52
>>154 Middle eastern were never white. Even Italians and Greeks are no that white, compared to Germans. White are the tribes of the north, living in extreme cold temperatures, therefore the white skin and autistic psyche.
>>155 Not really. They pull white mummies out of Chinese pyramids, and all the greatest pharaohs of Egypt had the same white DNA. South Americans, such as Inca, spoke of the whites that tamed and civilized the land before them.
>>159 Viking and other Northerners aren't pyramid/cathedral builders, the entire reason they migrated north is to flee the lifestyle of being enslaved to build worthless monuments for specious reasons. One can see the desire to build worthless monuments as an infection that spread from the China/Siberia area (where the most ancient surviving monumental structures are found) through India, to middle east, to southern Europe, and now even the most northern areas of Europe are littered with crappy cathedrals and temples. The entire world has been turned inside out and we have built shitty monuments of its entrails, despite even the best monument being average and unimpressive when compared to even the most noxious of weeds.