/lounge/ - 88-Year-Old Grandma is convicted again for

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-18 0:38

A German court on Monday sentenced an 88-year-old 'Nazi grandma' to six months in jail, the fifth in a string of similar convictions for the repeat Holocaust denier.
Ursula Haverbeck has often denied the mass murder of millions of Jews by the Nazis, which constitutes incitement of racial hatred under German law.
And although she has been convicted on several occasions, she has not served any jail time, as the cases are all still under appeal.
During a public event at the end of January, Haverbeck repeated her claims, saying it was 'not true' that there were gas chambers at the Auschwitz death camp.
She also disputed the fact that 1.1 million people were killed at the concentration camp in Nazi-occupied Poland.

Yet rapists from North Africa and the Middle East get a light, slap-on-the-wrist sentence and are right back on the streets. All this in the "free" and "democratic" Federal Republic of Germany.

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-18 1:13

fake news? you decide.

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-18 3:41

Fuck the BRD regime.

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-18 7:02

>>2
real news

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-18 17:31

Realist of the real.

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-20 2:56

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Name: Anonymous 2017-10-20 5:29

She hasn't served any of these sentences yet. She keeps appealing them. Hopefully the judges throw this case out and it helps to start a legislative movement for real freedom of speech in Germany.

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-20 10:57

That grandma is more dangerous than Hitlor!

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-20 19:15

Why do people hate free speech that much?

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-20 19:18

>>9
People can't just be allowed to say whatever they want.

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-20 19:56

>>10
Then there is no freedom of speech if the only speech allowed is speech that is prior approved.

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-20 20:01

you can say anything you want
i can decide not to agree with u
that is free speach

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-20 20:41

>>12
Seems that concept is only (barely) recognized in the USA and Japan, but probably only because their written and codified constitutions lay it out in that way.

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-20 23:51

>>13
It might be in the constitution however there are a dozen different laws which try and add exceptions to it. It's just as good as if it wasn't there.

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-20 23:52

>>14
Nice try, commie.

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-21 9:35

>>13

USA jail people for just watching child porn, which is a speech too (a stream of 1s and 0s).

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-21 10:07

>>16

I.e. a photo of naked 15 years old girl is considered more horrible and illegal than the video of ISIS beheading a prisoner on camera.

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-21 20:28

>>16-17
Victimless crimes

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-21 20:45

>>17
What if the prisoner being beheaded is a naked 15 year old girl......?

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-21 22:46

>>16
Yeah. But countries that allow for legal cp posession have things like laws against hate speech.

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-21 23:34

>>20

Is there a single non-retarded country?

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-21 23:40

>>21
Luxembourg and Switzerland

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-21 23:42

>>21
Nope.
>>22
They too restrict freedom of speech.

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-22 0:06

In Switzerland for example, https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/freedom-of-speech-add-the-underlineanti-racism-law-facing-resistance-from-the-right/38754354

Name: Anonymous 2017-10-22 19:41

Hate speech laws are one of the last living relics of international Soviet activism. Originally when the USSR was campaigning for such laws around the world at the UN, pretty much all Western governments rejected the idea of legislating against the concept.

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