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Microsoft Loves Linux!

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-02 9:23

https://archive.fo/EoMRw | http://techrights.org/2016/02/10/extorting-acer-with-patents/
Microsoft loves Linux the way a python likes sheep. Microsoft uses software patent threats to bully Android phone makers to include Microsoft's proprietary malware. Microsoft donates to the Linux foundation so that they upscale, making them reliant on Microsoftbux and more amiable to Microsoft's influence, thereby.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-02 14:23

This is why I buy Chinese phones.

Name: Cudder !cXCudderUE 2018-01-02 18:17

>>2
+1

MediaTek FTW

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-02 19:01

I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft paid Poettering and the major distributions to shit up the userland on purpose with systemd.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-02 21:59

>>3
MediaTek FTW
Shit performance.
MediaTek is the AMD of smartphone SoCs. No matter how many 10-core configurations they make, they're not gonna even beat a good 2 core snapdragon.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-02 22:41

Microsoft can't defeat F(L)OSS, so now they're trying to subvert it somehow.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-02 23:00

>>4
Android doesn't use systemd.

Name: /prog/ 2018-01-02 23:27

/prog/

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-03 0:03

>>7
No, but most Linux distributions do.

>>8
/prog/ is shitted up enough with these kinds of /g/-tier threads. This is fine here.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-03 0:36

>>9
And how many of those distros have have billions of users?

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-03 1:31

>>10
Nice gotcha question, you should work for cnn.

Name: Cudder !cXCudderUE 2018-01-03 4:22

>>5
Performance isn't everything.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-03 4:38

>>12
...They also have awful battery life, and not to mention that mediatek doesn't even provide the kernel source code unlike qualcomm.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-03 6:42

>>13
This guy can clearly read a wiki page

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-03 7:19

>>10
Linux has a blatantly larger marketshare than Windows.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-03 7:23

>>15
In servers, probably.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-03 7:47

>>14
It's facts, autist.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-03 7:59

>>17
sounds more like a schizophrenic awakening

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-03 8:29

>>12
ironic coming from you

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-03 13:00

>>16
In your smartphone, idiot.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-03 13:58

>>20
Plus routers and other embedded systems. Desktop distros (GNU shit) are minuscule in comparison.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-03 15:08

>>21
GNU makes up the majority of servers, which is sizeable but smaller than that of embedded systems and phones.

Name: Cudder !cXCudderUE 2018-01-03 17:30

>>13
Just try to find a Snapdragon 810 datasheet or programming guide. Sources are useless without documentation.

MTK sources are all over GitHub anyway, and the datasheets are just a (Chinese) Google away.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-03 18:23

>>20
That doesn't count.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-03 19:13

>>24
The Linux in your smartphone--the same Linux that this thread's article addresses--doesn't qualify?

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-03 19:27

>>25
It affects more than just Android and smartphones. The thing is that Linux can be forked ad infinitum, so Microsoft can never fully destroy it.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-03 19:59

>>26
Yes, but just because you fork something doesn't mean you have the support to maintain it. That's something laypeople don't understand, that software needs to be maintained in order to be useable. Linux is a huge, sprawling project, not the sort of thing that can easily be picked up. And that's not even considering GNU/Linux.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-03 22:18

>>26
Of course they can't destroy it and why would they? What they're doing is going after the largest Linux distributers like Samsung, Huawei, Oppo, etc... because that's where the money is.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-03 22:42

>>28
It's not really Linux itself so much that Linux, Android, GNU are just tools that lend themselves to the real industry. After all, it's not the software they're pedalling. It's their hardware, all those wasted rare earth metals that are going to be thrown a way in a year's time once the consumer's attention span runs out. Smartphones are worthless pieces of trash.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-03 23:06

>>29
all those wasted rare earth metals that are going to be thrown a way in a year's time once the consumer's attention span runs out.
Rare earth is suppose to be recycled, that's why it's illegal in many places to just throw your old phone away. But I agree with you, I hate the heavily disposable tech that's out there nowadays.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-04 0:24

>>30
It's funny that you say that, because I just read an article detailing how--surprise, surprise--Apple shreds the majority of the hardware returned to them, and, of course, Apple much prefers to simply throw out and replace hardware than just fix it no matter how novel the issue. It's funny in light of the adverts they made and the memos they've been known to circulate about how eco-friendly their business is. Obviously, they repurpose the core resources, but just like petrol-based materials like plastic, it takes labor, resources, and energy to do that recycling. My local facility doesn't even recycle plastic. When you add up the cost of water, labor, and the pollution that's a product of recycling, some agree that's it's probably better the environment just to throw it in a landfill--many agree that it's way more economical to just throw all that plastic out. Recycling is just an amendment to a system that's fundamentally wrong. That's why people recycle, to feel better about perpetuate a system that's unethical.

People might criticize me for various reasons, mostly out of the fact that I'm using is as a change to antagonize Apple, warranted or unwarranted. And they'd be right to do so. I don't think you can hate Apple for this. Can you blame a publicly-traded company to try and satisfy their shareholders by any means possible? Pretending like Apple is absolutely perfect and green and they treat their workers perfectly and there's just no possible way to critique over specifics like those, just like recycling, the overarching trajectory is the same: Apple needs to expand and suffocate their competitors, and we all know how sensitive shareholders are at the slightest set back, like recently when an airline decided to raise their workers' wages at the expense of a minor drop in value. One of the notes circulated among shareholders was literally in the vein of (I paraphrase) ``how could they possibly value the wellbeing of their workers before us?'' They basically have cartoon dollar signs in their eyes.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-04 0:37

>>31
petrol-based materials like plastic, it takes labor, resources, and energy to do that recycling. My local facility doesn't even recycle plastic. When you add up the cost of water, labor, and the pollution that's a product of recycling, some agree that's it's probably better the environment just to throw it in a landfill--many agree that it's way more economical to just throw all that plastic out.
This is why it's better to use glass and an RO water filtration system instead of plastic water bottles; it's a big problem.
like recently when an airline decided to raise their workers' wages at the expense of a minor drop in value. One of the notes circulated among shareholders was literally in the vein of (I paraphrase) ``how could they possibly value the wellbeing of their workers before us?'' They basically have cartoon dollar signs in their eyes.
Yeah, that's another problem, it's hypercapitalism at its worst, probably since the days of the Phoebus cartel. I don't know what the solution is, because it seems like hardly anyone understands nuance anymore.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-04 0:39

>>1
If it's not Microsoft's malware, it's Google's.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-04 3:02

>>27
While it is true that software doesn't write itself, the thing about free software means that you don't have to burden the cost of development by yourself if you can find a community of users who are willing to share the burden of development. It is very possible for a conglomerate of software users to invest either developer time or development money to support the development of the software. This is true for all forms of free software whether that be Linux, GNU or anything else.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-04 19:26

>>34
software doesn't write itself
Maybe yours doesn't...

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-05 7:44

Their new Pajeet CEO is able to tell the world has changed and it's time to wake up and smell the poo. All computing is going to be server-client in a couple years. The PC, as a concept, is dead. General purpose personal computing is dead. People have already decided what they want to do with computers, and an iPhone is good enough for it.

In the future of nothing but server farms and specialized consumer hardware, there will be no place for 90s boomer technology like Windows and UNIX.

IMO the best thing for Microsoft right now is to use their trillions to expand Azure and become an infrastructure company.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-05 8:13

>>36
In the future of nothing but server farms and specialized consumer hardware, there will be no place for 90s boomer technology like Windows and UNIX.
Nonsense. They will always exist because there will always be dissidents holding out. And Linux isn't Unix-like anymore anyway.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-05 8:28

>>37
Linux will be the new Windows in this new era--a bloated massive pile of garbage that everyone has to run on their servers because no one knows how to use anything else. It just keeps growing and growing. Maybe rms was right all along.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-05 8:57

>>38
People run it on their servers because:
1. Easy to use for retarded admins.
2. Active directory.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-06 5:03

>>39
Funny thing is, if companies use something better and hire a competent sysadmin, they'll end up saving much more money in the long run.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-06 22:58

>>38
Maybe rms was right all along.
What do you mean by this?

>>40
Windows trained administrators are a dime a dozen. This means there are a bigger pool of people with these skills than there are with "high quality" Unix training. This means it's far easier to find people to administrate your already existing Windows system than it is to find Unix admins to migrate and administrate your IT system to Unix.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-07 0:03

>>41
That must be why I get so many calls from Windows experts offering to help me with my computer problems.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-08 2:48

>>41
This means it's far easier to find people to administrate your already existing Windows system than it is to find Unix admins to migrate and administrate your IT system to Unix.
Literally all greenfield projects nowadays deploy on Linux. No one uses Windows anymore outside of legacy corporate America stuff.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-08 9:46

>>4
Of course Poettering is a RedHat employee, and RedHat may in fact see other (more free) Linux stuff as competition, so your idea may not be that far off -- it's just RedHat and not Microsoft.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-08 10:44

>>44
That's absurd. RedHat basically has a monopoly on the enterprise world. Literally none of the other projects even try to compete; they just carve out a little niche for themselves. Furthermore, RedHat is single-handedly the company innovating GNU/Linux, and it's been that way since its inception.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-08 13:30

>>45
They're more military than enterprise though.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-08 13:49

>>46
Is this hearsay, who told you this?

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-09 4:56

>>44
it's just RedHat and not Microsoft.
Or rather, it's both. Microsoft has been pretty friendly with their "former" competition lately, especially with Apple Inc. I wouldn't be surprised if they were funneling some money into RedHat and the major distributions to try to subvert them in some fashion. They've never stopped with their EEE tactics, but now I think it's finally hit a ceiling. And at best, it's revealed a lot of back-stabbing Judases in the Linux world.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-09 8:25

>>48
A benevolent publically traded company is still a publically traded company. It doesn't matter whether they're friendly or not to others, because the trajectory is the same: satisfy their shareholders by means of unhindered expansion and suffocating competition. When will people learn?

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-09 9:39

>>49
Yes, except most Linux distributions are developed on a non-profit donation-based method of funding. They don't have shareholders to report to. So I can understand why RedHat would, but not Debian. So far, the last major holdouts seem to be Slackware and Gentoo.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-09 10:54

>>50
Debian's sponsors are primarily enterprise. Slackware's sponsors are primarily individual users who use it for Desktop. Gentoo's whole schtick is that they're portable, which is why they're the exception, even if they're also an enterprise project, because they achieve a different end than their contemporaries.

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-09 21:51

>>51
Enterprise sponsorship means nothing. These distros do not exist for the purpose of enriching their shareholders because there is no shareholder to enrich!

Name: Anonymous 2018-01-09 23:31

>>52
But they're beholden to their sponsors?

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