If humans becoming extinct is good, because it reduces future suffering, why it can't apply to all species that can expirience pain? Should we cheer that blue whale going to be extinct, since no future blue whale will expirience suffering? Genocide, murder,suicide and abortion are all very effective at preventing future suffering. Anti-natalists seem to be pretty hypocritical at denying the above as effective anti-natalist methods and somehow only see 'human exctinction' as important while other species need to survive and thrive(and expirience enormous amounts of pain and suffering).
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Anonymous2019-06-21 4:22
Correct. Most antinatalists are frauds or just brainwashed. I want to thanos all living life and end samsara.
Most species aren't capable of causing as much trouble as ourselves at this point, but removing ourselves doesn't prevent it starting over again somewhere/somehow
environmental change is linked to production
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Anonymous2019-06-23 1:14
Being born isn't so bad, the suffering is temporary and can be negated through correct outlook. The correct outlook is to consider everything a challenge, an opportunity for growth and understanding beyond the material. Many people harbor immense butthurt because they see events in their life as either a blessing or a curse, they are like a plastic bag in the wind and can only feel resentment or gratitude for where the wind takes them.
There is some truth to this, in the sense that one cannot control external events or their impact on one's circumstances. However, a man with the correct outlook knows that all experiences are only an opportunity for growth. There is no getting around the temporary and pointless nature of physical existence, no "passing on your genes" or "leaving a mark" is possible long term. Since in the material world everything that grows eventually rots away like it never grew, a correct outlook makes one attempt to grow the immaterial parts of oneself.
One can find the seeds of the immaterial in the way one does not want to be petty and greedy and dishonest, not wanting to behave in these ways is clearly bad for a prolonged physical existence, to be honorable and fair and honest is to stand with something beyond death, something beyond survival and physical comfort. In this way we can see that the suffering inherent in life is a good thing, at least for those willing to overcome death. Posting on r/antinatalism is not the answer, instead of trying to sooth the ego in the face of suffering one should look past it to the eternal.