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Urbit

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-23 14:20

This guy made a distributed operating system: https://github.com/urbit/urbit

Or at least, I think that's what's going on here, because he's all full of mysticism and goes on and on about traditions and instincts. Meanwhile I can't understand half a word of his sparsely documented source code. The language he made up seems to borrow all the worst parts of Befunge and APL, and even his C is kind of obfuscated. It's like trying to read a newspaper in Hmoob.

Am I just too intellectual to understand reality? Is my brain poisoned by the academic ivory tower's harmful theoretical concepts, /prog/? How can I ever unlearn the toxic ability to think?

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-23 14:34

I knew I heard the name Urbit in the past already. Turns out I did so from Stanislav.

loper-os.org/?p=1390

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-23 14:57

>>2
is he that nutty bitcoins crackpot?

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-23 16:08

>>3
He's the Loper OS guy. He's pretty much trying to bring back Lisp machines, and writes a lot of stuff about how our current computing paradigm is poisoned at the root. I don't know anything about his alleged involvement with bitcoins.

Also, I found some of the documentation for Hoon: http://doc.urbit.org/doc/hoon/tut/1/

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-23 16:26

>>4

http://www.loper-os.org/?cat=42

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-23 17:33

>>4

He's pretty much trying to bring back Lisp machines
Then why is his code all C/C++?

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-23 17:57

mysticism
Using that word wrong, you ignorant close-minded fool. I didn't see anything on that page that would qualify as genuine mysticism or the pseudo-negative version you new-atheists cook up in your imagination. Is it that quote? Of course you wouldn't know who the fuck Borges is because you don't know anything that isn't spoon fed to you through the science channel.

coding
ninja
chatting
I don't think so, fuck this urbit shit.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-23 18:01

>>6
Stanislav (Loper OS) is trying to recreate Lisp machines starting with his own dataflow processor design. He totally rejects the utility of anything built on top of the current standard von Neumann architecture.

Curtis Yarvin (Urbit) believes he can create his vision for a new computing platform as an abstraction on top of the existing hardware, and as part of that, he's writing a lot of code in C to "emulate" the new platform on current machines.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-23 18:04

>>8
Yarvin
Shalom Aleykhem!

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-23 18:12

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AStanis%C5%82aw_Lem#Jewish_ethnicity
Is it a taboo that Lem was ethnically Jewish? You keep removing references to this fact, while his "having been raised Catholic", which is completely unsupported by his own interviews, is tenaciously left in main text. Here's what he says in an interview:

Shalom!

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-23 18:23

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AStanis%C5%82aw_Lem#Praising_Dick.3F

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-23 18:24

The C part of code reminds me of Miniflex JavaScript AI.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-23 18:26

techcrunch.com/2013/11/22/geeks-for-monarchy/

Actual progress in the technology world (and for it also to be just a ``world'' and not an industry, commodification is bad for genuine progress) would be it going back to what it used to be. No pseudo-intellectualism, no faggot nut bloggers, and no political bullshit. Just hackers, scientists, and the military.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-23 18:59

>>13
no political bullshit
scientists

I've bad news for you...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_email_controversy

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-23 19:07

>>14
Yes, yes, carbon dioxide is evil. Even though water vapors are the main greenhouse gas and human activity doesn't affect water evaporation and condensation, we still must cut down carbon dioxide emissions, because... well, because it's just evil! And never mind that plants actually require CO2 for photosynthesis, making it necessary for the existence of life! Carbon. Dioxide. Is. Evil. And don't even think about asking why, just decrease your carbon emissions because that's really the world's biggest ecological problem right now!

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-23 20:36

>>15
Even if water vapors make up about 60% of greenhouse gases, a measly 20% of a fuckload million tons of greenhouse gases is still a lot. Jews can cut down on their carbon dioxide emissions, but it's pretty damn hard to do the same for fucking water.

Shalom!

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-23 20:44

>>16
Shalom!
Shalom!

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-23 23:26

>>17
Shalom!
Shalom!
Shalom!

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-24 7:32

I highly doubt that GMP is a good and efficient way to represent any kind of atom. Moreover, I complain that injudicious use of GMP makes Scheme and Haskell slow as they today, compared to C# and Java, which exclusively use fixnums.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-24 7:53

>>19
Haskell is about as fast as Java even though it uses GMP.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-24 8:06

>>20

Haskell is slow and leaks memory. GHC's inefficient stop-the-world GC does not scale. Despite being statically typed, Haskell can't deliver the bare metal speed, with typical Haskell code being 30x to 200x times slower than C/C++ (http://honza.ca/2012/10/haskell-strings http://www.mail-archive.com/haskell-cafe%40haskell.org/msg25645.html). A good understanding of evaluation order is very important for writing practical programs. People using Haskell often have no idea how evaluation affects the efficiency. It is no coincidence that Haskell programmers end up floundering around with space and time leaks that they do not understand. Functions take time to complete and debugging for time leaks is much more difficult than to debug for type errors. "The next Haskell will be strict." -- Simon Peyton-Jones

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-24 9:27

>>21
People using Haskell often have no idea how evaluation affects the efficiency.
How can you complain about inefficient code written by people who don't have a good understanding of the language?

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-24 10:18

>>22
How can you reply seriously to old kopipe?

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-24 10:19

>>22
Because the whole responsibility for it is with the language, not the programmer. C has an evaluation model that human beings can understand. Haskell does not.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-24 11:01

>>23

implying "old = not true"

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-24 11:06

>>25
implying
ROFL EPIC MEME /B/RO XDDDD

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-24 11:23

>>26

implying that pointing the usage of a supposed "meme" in an argument refutes the argument

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-24 11:24

>>27
I'm not >>23 you meme spewing monkey.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-24 11:26

>>28

implying "implying" is a meme

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-24 11:33

>>29
It's not a meme, it's an epic meme!

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-24 11:46

>>30

implying anyone cares

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-24 12:00

>>18
Shalom!
Shalom!
Shalom!
Shalolololom!

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-24 12:03

>>31
You cared enough to reply. Perhaps you think what I'm saying is true?
Don't be surprised if you get banned for acting like a child!

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-24 12:12

>>33

implying >>31 cares if he gets banned

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-24 12:17

>>33
He is not going to get banned, the admin is not a upset retarded autistic, unlike you

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-24 12:19

>>35
How do you know?

>>34
If ``he'' doesn't care, why is he still posting? If ``he'' didn't care enough, ``he'' wouldn't even be posting here.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-24 12:25

>>36

implying he cares arguing with you

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-24 12:26

>>37
``He'' is still posting. That means ``he'' is still arguing.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-24 12:28

>>38

implying "posting implies arguing"

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-24 12:29

ignoratio elenchi, ignoramus!
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