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Hardware that respects my freedom?

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-13 12:12

Yep.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-15 22:36

>>40

Or you can just get a toilet scrubber job at Intel and copy a few CADs, when nobody is looking.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-15 22:49

I think one of the reasons IC manufacturers don't publish their designs is to prevent being sued for patent infringement. Since IC designs are already protected by copyright, maybe it would be a good idea to change the law so that ICs become unpatentable (the way software is should be is should be). Actually, to give manufacturers an incentive to open their sources, maybe the law could only grant IC patent immunity for ICs whose full sources have been published.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-15 23:08

>>42

Manufacturers have no incentive to expose internals, because releasing source code would make competitor's work easier. For example, leaked Windows 2000 source code greatly boosted Wine's development.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-15 23:16

>>43
Capitalism is anti-human and a bane to human progress and ought to be destroyed.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-15 23:18

>>44

Humans are anti-capitalism and a bane to capitalistic progress and ought to be destroyed.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-16 2:00

>>45
capitalistic progress
Capitalism is a stasis where the select few are rich and getting richer, and the vast majority are poor and getting poorer.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-16 2:28

>>46

To able progress, and the inept lose their place. Hygienization of humanity

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-16 2:29

>>47

*The able

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-16 2:48

>>47
Able to what? Able to lie, cheat and steal? Or able to get richer when they're already rich?
Rupert Murdock can lie in bed and masturbate all day and still make more money than you, even if you work 60 hours a week.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-16 3:03

>>46

Then how come American niggers are a lot richer than African ones and live better than African nobility?

Name: >>42 2014-07-16 4:05

>>43
Manufacturers have no incentive to expose internals, because releasing source code would make competitor's work easier. For example, leaked Windows 2000 source code greatly boosted Wine's development.
That's true. I didn't say patent risk was the only reason, just that it was an important one.

Also, I'm not sure how much it would really help the competitors; I don't think I know enough about CPU design. However, if it does eventually help competitors, that's a good thing for users since we'll get better CPUs faster.

Another thought; the innovation-rewarding benefits of secrecy wouldn't be entirely lost: they could also only publish the sources at the very last minute as the IC is about to hit the shelves. It would take the competitors a fair amount of time to clean room reverse engineer any technological advances (and then to integrate them into their own designs, test, etc.), so in the meantime the innovating company would get lots of sales for having some clever unique feature; innovation is rewarded.

>>44
I somewhat agree with you. The point of any economic system in a democratic society is to serve the people (in practice this works out as making the people feel served); in this case, the interests of the companies (i.e. to make money faster by stifling competition) are getting in the way of the interests of the people (i.e. safer computing). Sure, in an idealized capitalist system every actor has perfect information of what's best for them and literally everyone would avoid hardware they can't trust, but that's hardly a realistic assumption.

>>45
That was VIP quality!

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-16 4:18

>>51

if it does eventually help competitors, that's a good thing for users since we'll get better CPUs faster.
Intel doesn't care about users or better CPUs. The only motive for Intel's existence is to make money for the shareholders.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-16 4:23

>>52

Moreover, users dont want anyone to care about them. If you put in charge a person who cares, such person would push command-line interface, instead of GUI, because GUI is less flexible and dumbs users down. People are self-indulgent, so they love inefficient and dumb things, like x86.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-16 4:27

People vote politicians and companies who indulge their hideous lifestyle. That is why McDonalds makes billions, while restaurants serving healthy food get bankrupt.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-16 4:44

>>52
Re-read my post carefully. In the paragraph that answers to post forty-four (>>44) I make exactly that point.

>>53
If you put in charge a person who cares, such person would push command-line interface,
Say that to my 90 year old grandparents not online and see what happens.

instead of GUI, because GUI is less flexible and dumbs users down.
My answer to that is                 LISP                 .

>>54
That is why McDonalds makes billions, while restaurants serving healthy food get bankrupt.
That might also have something to do with pricing and wage slavery in the United States of America.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-16 14:21

>>54
The people want what they want. Is it really the people's fault that tasty nutritious food is more expensive than tasty cheap junk?

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-16 16:57

>>56
Is it really the people's fault that they give in to cheap appetizers instead of wholesome food? Yes, it is. Every member of "the people" is responsible for not being a human and going along with propaganda and the herd.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-16 17:12

>>57
Assigning blame is unscientific and ultimately destructive.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-16 17:34

>>58
Reasoning is scientific and ultimately constructive.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-16 17:40

>>59
That isn't what scientific means or is or what reasoning is. And reason isn't limited to science's petty and childish empiricism.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-16 17:41

Science isn't ultimately constructive either. It's more like the opposite.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-16 17:49

>>60
Discovering reasons behind the social behavior of primates is scientific.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-16 17:51

>>62
Fuck off with your bestiality.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-16 17:54

>>59
Reasoning by assigning blame isn't.

>>60
Looks like the hateful positivist is doing eir rounds again.

>>60-62
Take this to /lounge/.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-16 17:55

>>64
I'm positive that you're a nigger lover.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-16 18:07

>>64
eir
Please leave this board and go spread your degeneracy somewhere else, preferably in a mental institution together with all the other feminists.

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-16 18:18

>>65-66
/lounge/

Name: /back2/ 2014-07-18 10:22

>>67
/back2/

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-18 20:56

Wat

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-20 18:04

Dubs

Name: Anonymous 2014-07-20 22:00

check 'em

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