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new bill thing

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-14 23:29

there's a new bill thing. Is it too late again? I don't know. Read section 309. Not the summary. The summary just sounds like funding or something. The actual text under 309. It allows all intercepted communications to be stored for 5 years, and longer if they feel like it.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/4681/text

reddit doesn't seem to care
http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/2p0fk9/spy_bill_passed_legal_process_no_longer_required/

http://thehill.com/policy/technology/226752-gop-rep-attempted-late-bid-to-kill-spy-bill

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-14 23:43

Oh and it's about intercepted communications that weren't intercepted legally. So it basically legalizes existing practices, assuming the data on all US citizens are disposed after 5 years.

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-14 23:46

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-14 23:59

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-15 0:13

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-15 0:16

THINK OF THE CHILDREN

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-15 0:38

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-15 21:25

Oh thank you! Whenever I hear about something, the first thing I think is `But how does Reddit feel about this?'. I could look myself, sure, but I prefer being notified about the goings-on of forums on different forums. I really appreciate that you took time out of your day to keep up updated on Reddit.

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-15 21:29

Woah, chill that enthusiasm down, >>8-san!

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-15 22:56

>>8
Upboat! Your karma has soared!

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-16 6:51

>>8
I'm sorry, but when I tried to search for discussion of the bill, that is all that turned up. It's sad isn't it?

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-16 22:11

>>11
Americans don't have the right to discuss anything. They only have the right to accept whatever transnational corporations tell them to do.

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-17 3:13

>>12
Just so you know, the 5 year limit doesn't apply if the subjects aren't US citizens. There appears to be no limit in that case. So you have less rights than we do in the eyes of our government.

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-17 3:59

Why the fuck is it considered normal to spy on other countries' citizens instead of your own?
Is it just me or is that completely backwards.
You want to spy on someone spy on your own people.

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-17 11:53

>>14
Your rights end where our safety begins. Now get back onto the naked pyramid so the officer can get a picture with you losers.

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-17 14:32

I wonder if people who sign these petitions get spied on extra hardcore.

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-17 23:01

>>16
Added to the list.

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-18 0:30

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-18 2:46

>>18
Perhaps because people have lost hope for a USA where you're not spied upon without reason?

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-18 3:44

>>19
Look at Google, their whole business is based on spying on their users and people love it!

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-18 3:47

>>19
Yeah, but this is literally happening right now. When obama signs this bill, everything in the NSA leaks is legalized. And it's not in the news.

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-18 3:53

>>21
Oh shit, I thought it was figuratively happening right now.

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-18 3:55

>>22
Good thing I'm here to figuratively check your literal getting of figurative dubs.

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-18 4:07

>>21
Oh great.
Laws are retroactive now?

Name: Anonymous 2014-12-18 4:40

Silly >>24. The government will never be punished for breaking the law in the past, regardless if it's legalized later or not. My concern here is that this is a stepping stone. Now they can do it legally. It's only a matter of time before they can use evidence collected like this without a warrant in court, eliminating the need for parallel construction. People are saying this bill allows local law enforcement access to the intercepted communications, but I haven't seen that explicitly in the bill.

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