Newsgroups

what newsgroups to you visit progriders?

the only ones I find really go on nowadays are rec.games.roguelike.development and de.comp.os.unix.linux.*

are there others that are still active and not filled with spam?

general newsgroup/usenet discussion?

are there other that are still active and not filled with spam

Yes, plenty.

A lot of fucktards think usenet is just binaries, literally if you browse /r/usenet for 2 hours you won't find a single reference to anything other than binaries. Their FAQ doesn't even mention discussions, they talk about only binary-centric providers, they talk about newsreaders specifically designed NOT to find anything BUT binaries, no discussion, just cold file transfer.

This is a good thing over all. People have to understand what usenet is in order to use it for discussions, so you have few idiots and lusers posting. Sure that cuts down on activity but I'd rather have a less active community than one full of shit.

Binary whores are annoying and their ignorance is pathetic but at least you don't have to talk to them.

What's the best newsreader for Winblows?

I refuse to pay for the privilege of talking to Mentishit. Even when my ISP offered it, I just made lots of embarrassingly misinformed (but very opinionated) posts about programming. I can do that here for free.

>>3
I don't use windows so I wouldn't know. SeaMonkey if you're a luser. Eternal September should work with any mail reader. You could telnet into a real computer and use trn or tin (or use those with Cygwin, I honestly don't know)
>>4
Eternal September is a private project providing free access to text-only Usenet News. The server has a 100MBit connection to several Internet backbones and is integrated into the Usenet via more than 60 peers.

http://www.eternal-september.org/

SDF includes usenet access free within their shell (to use them as a provider you have to pay a one time 35$ fee to become an ARPA member, Usenet is pretty far down on the list of reasons you should be an ARPA member anyway, if you're not you should be)

http://sdf.org/?faq?USENET

>>4
http://www.reddit.com/user/ArthurTMurray

do any ISPS offer it anymore?

what was the real reason for stopping service? copyright or muh chilluns?

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.os.os2.advocacy

>>1
alt.touhou.bullets.bullets.bullets

>>8
comp.os.*.advocacy groups have always been shitposters, probably since before the first person to use that term was born

At this point it's even worse because after 30 odd years they've exausted every possible thing to talk about.

C.O.L.A is basically /prog/.

>>7

do ISPs still offer it

I think, like indie dial up ISPs, actual newsgroup based discussion is more of a European thing at this point, I just get it from SDF. I'm not sure if I used SDF AS my ISP if Usenet access would be available. I don't actually know if ISPs were legally required to end access or if 99.99% of ISPs just stopped offering access (considering in America, that's basically Comcast and Time Warner)

what was the real reason for stopping service? copyright or muh chilluns

Well, considering the fact that the FBI would sooner fill a honeypot with CP than copyrighted content, I would imagine it's the former. They don't give a fuck about children.

I really stopped getting on usenet as much for recreation when I realized /prog/ is the exact same community with the same exact jokes, people and opinions, eerily similar offtopic posts, et cetera. Now I only really lurk for technical discussions about obscure SBC's that me and 3 other people still hack on and even then I have better luck on mailing lists

>>12
I hope that there will always be a /prog/, even if the medium drastically changes.

>>7,11
More probably, they didn't like retaining terabytes of data for a dwindling number of users. Remember, Usenet was mostly dropped by 2005, when storage was a premium, and most of the customers were content have fetish cybersex on Yahoo groups.

And now for a story about CP on Usenet: I know of only one group that operated on Usenet, using completely encrypted messages in an abandoned newsgroup they had appropriated. Predictably, it took real police work _{(if I recall correctly, according to the affidavit, the fat guy had a painting in the background of one of the videos that was only printed in a run of a few thousand or something as part of an art club thing, then a bottle of water that was only distributed in the southern US, and the interior of a car. They got the records for the art and pulled up vehicle registration records to narrow it down to a few men and cracked the case)} to find one member and get him to rat out the others ^{(pedos aren't known for their solidarity)}, which is a Good Thing, because the FBI says they were into some seriously shady shit. There are most probably others of course though.

>>14
That's some pretty powerful detective work

>>15

You know we all aren't fat lazy dont eating faggots. Some of use work very hard and care about protecting people.

>>16

yeah right, i bet you just do it as a legal way of collecting cp

So two weeks ago I installed INN (a NNTP server) and now I have a newsgroup on my server, but since you faggots would only post sjis lolicon or just flood it I would not tell you the my secret domain... but I'm pretty sure that admin-sama could install it here, it's pretty easy to configure.

>>18
Just make an alt.lolies and we can all get along nicely.

Except I still won't post there. I don't trust you.

alt.lolies.rape.rape.rape

>>14
Do newsgroups not have a log of ip addresses or something? Pedos aren't that smart about anonymity. At least a few of them should fuck up regularly.

>>21
Depends on the server the uploader uses. I remember back in the day Altopia allowed people to forge headers, but most will show your IP.

>>12
I'm pretty sure that's because progriders specifically try to recreate that community, or be its modern incarnation (despite the fact that some newsgroups are very much alive)

At least there is clearly a lot cross-posting (if you can even call it that) going on

>>21
It is possible, but you have to install something like postfilter (https://code.google.com/p/postfilter/). It would be nice to integrate this with hashcash too.

only for old microcomputer stuff, maybe some N8VEM stuff