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Programming time > hardware expense

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 9:17

All future popular languages will be as or more high level than Python.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 9:56

Programming time > hardware expense
This is why languages like Java where you can have thousands of lines of code autogenerated by software such as IBM's rational software development suite are going to take over.
Why would a scripting languages designed for newbies become an ENTERPRISE standard? Because XKCD told you it would?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 18:41

cool thread

upboat =D

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-23 8:01

ayy make a loop son
say hello forever lol
comment yo dude dis wut programmin gon b like in da future

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-23 8:23

>>2
Why would a scripting languages designed for newbies become an ENTERPRISE standard? Because XKCD told you it would?

I used Python as a comparison in terms of abstraction. Actually most Python code out there is pretty good. Despite being easy to learn, Python is avoided by most skiddies who stick with PHP, JS, Java, Obj-C, and other useless shit. Python will never be ENTERPRISE QUALITY because no actual corporations back it, unlike Java and C#. Managers choose programming tools because they read an ad and then proceed to hire programmers specific to the tools they were conned into using.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-23 8:35

>>5
Google is not a corporation who backs Python even though they hired Guido because he is the lead developer of Python?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-23 11:01

gentoo

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-23 11:06

install it

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-23 13:10

on my anus

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-23 16:56

>>6
Google doesn't actually use Python, they just say they do so that their competitors do stupid shit to and chase false goals. PageRank is actually implemented as a javascript addon to Chrome these days.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-23 19:20

>>10
Youtube is written in Python, that's why it's so buggy and slow.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-24 5:56

>>11
Legit.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-24 6:36

sage

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-24 8:32

>>13
Why would you do this?
It even says "Don't bump" rather than "sage", so there's no room for misunderstanding what sage does.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-24 8:42

>>14
sage

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-24 12:00

Programmer time > time spent on bytefuck languages like C.

just c
I wanted to include the machine-level limit. Low value runs were coming in at 9 nanos but I got a segment fault at higher numbers and reminded myself why I code in haskell.

http://tonyday567.github.io/blog/pipes-v-machines/

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-24 12:02

Rust

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-24 12:18

>>17
is shit

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-24 14:20

>>18
Tell me more.

Name: RedCream 2015-01-24 15:39

>>19
Noa.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-24 18:20

>>20
RedCream go away.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-24 18:22

What about Rust?
It has zero-cost abstraction.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-25 4:17

>>22
zero-cost abstraction

kek

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-25 7:25

the only zero-cost abstraction is text preprocessing macros

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-25 7:59

>>24
except they're shitter than AST-based macros.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-25 9:20

>>25
Except that AST-based macros are just as zero-cost (at runtime) as text "macros" (I wouldn't even call that shit this venerable word).

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-25 9:35

>>26
Yes. The only reason text processing macros are allowed to be called macros is because of emacs.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-25 9:41

>>26
Any macro which is interpreted at runtime incurs abstraction cost(execution time), there are no exceptions.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-25 9:46

>>28
If you've still working with an AST at runtime, runtime macros are the least of your performance concerns.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-25 10:32

>>28
I can think of an exception.

Name: Cudder !MhMRSATORI 2015-01-25 16:17

Meanwhile software is getting slower and bigger JUST TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING IT DID TEN YEARS AGO.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirth's_law

Fuck these entitled selfish programmers who think their resources are more valuable than that of their users. They're often greedy overpaid pigs too.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-25 16:35

>>31
Use Rust

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-30 23:17

Enlightenment is when you realize high level scripting languages are ideal for 90% of programming tasks in the wild. When and only when it becomes slow do you rewrite small sections in C. Sepples is unnecessary because the idea of sepples is to be used in the whole program.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-31 0:20

Cudder is all talk and no action.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-31 0:32

Meanwhile software is getting slower and bigger JUST TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING IT DID TEN YEARS AGO.
[Citation Needed]

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-31 0:52

>>35
The software you used to publish that post is very likely a citation.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-31 1:19

>>36
No. My web browser, Firefox, is getting bigger, it's doing more things and it's not getting slower. I'd give you some hard stats to compare the two but I never thought of getting stats of my Firefox usage ten years ago.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-31 1:22

>>37
It's most certainly slower than netscape.
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