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All for-mobile web should be flat HTML

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-24 6:31

Sans javashit. I have an iPhone 6 with the fastest data plan in a big city and still 60% of websites eventually cause Safari (and Chrome) freezes. It may be mem leaks in the browser, but more likely PEBCAK and the developer's javashit is too cumbersome. Even the sites that use bootstrap.js can die.

One site that has neither crashed nor frozen on me is craigslist. The only time it comes close is loading reCAPTCHA's javashit bloat. It's disgusting how github kiddies release "elegant javashit-for-mobile library" which advertise being "compact and fast" when that is simply impossible when it uses javascript. There is nothing wrong with "grayscale" web pages with headers, links, and navigation bars using system menus, not n-nested DIVs and js. These interfaces are actually more familiar and intuitive for most users. Some web programmers try to make the site an original work of art that would only be appreciate by loyal users (see: any commercial blog). Users have a low tolerance for frustration when browsing because the exact same information is the next Google result. Flat interfaces avoid these problems. They load fast (priority no. 1 for mobile), are easier to maintain, have zero learning curve for users, highlight content which is what people are after, and allow advertisements to be actually noticed thus more potentially clicked.

The swipe on the touchscreen in a browser should only imitate a mouse. We shouldn't be able to move between articles with the swipe, unless the OS does that for everything else. Websites trying to create their own OS find themselves nested not only in the device's OS but also the browser process. So instead of making their jobs easier and just simplifying their interfaces, many websites decided to write their own free native apps. Wait, you want me to switch out of this process to another just to check your site? Well then I'll never visit it.

It's simple to write everything on the server to end up with just the page the user requested. No, there is no need for dynamically loading shit onto the page. It will take the same amount of time to load a whole new FLAT page with what the user requested. This all stems from a mentality of developers that somehow sending a new page is costly. Well, I guess it is if you're uploading 10^5 SLOC of javashit with even the Contact Us page. There's nothing to justify JS in 2015 when civilized people do 90% of web browsing on mobile phones. It needs to die.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-24 6:36

My wifes big boobs dangle while i fuck her

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-24 6:37

web browsing on mobile phones
That's retarded.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-24 11:21

>>2
thats pretty damn hot man

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-24 13:55

>>1
Do you have an example of such a site?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-24 15:34

the problem here is that you own a shitty toy known as a ``smartphone''

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-24 20:00

My husbands big balls and erect penis dangle while I fuck his ass.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-25 2:22

>>7
thats a bit gay man

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-25 4:12

>>6
Only a poor person would make such a remark, ``faggot''!

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-25 4:18

Get a better phone then, faggot. Are we in a phone shortage or something? I have an $200 phone but absolutely no friends. It's for watching porn at restaurants (shit all over AT&T, I'll use as much bandwidth as I fucking please) and sending pictures of my dick to random girls on Craigslist, yet it has no problem rendering absolutely anything. Just yesterday I was playing Doom on a commodore64 emulator written in Javascript and running in Mobile Firefox, with only a tiny bit of choppiness when firing the BFG9K.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-25 4:37

My big balls hit my husband's big balls, which then hit his erect penis, which then smack his belly, leaving little dabs of precum, while I fuck him.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-25 4:40

>>9
You were raised well.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-26 3:02

>>1
This is why the appers are taking over. HTML5 and JS are shit on mobile, and just using plain HTML with CSS is too hard for the web crowd these days so every nontrivial web service ends up writing 2-3 mobile apps just so their users can enjoy basic features without having to wait 10 seconds for the display to refresh every time they make an input. Web developers with a clues are just too expensive, I guess.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 19:39

I have a website that is just html+css but when people try to open it on their smartphones it gets hard to navigate. How to fix this without javashit?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 22:01

>>14
Recognize their user agent and serve a page with HTML and CSS that is easy to navigate?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 22:08

>>15
So I'll need 2 different versions of my page? Fuck.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 22:45

>>16
An artificial intelligence maintain both pages for you if you wanted to make one.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-28 1:23

>>11
Thats pretty lewd man

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-28 2:43

>>11
Nice dubs!

Name: Cudder !MhMRSATORI 2015-01-28 6:26

All web should be flat HTML
FTFY

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-28 10:51

Cudder is all talk and no action.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-28 15:16

>>20
What do you propose instead?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-28 15:28

>>22
Flat HTML. It's right there.

Name: >>3 2015-01-28 15:35

All for-mobile web should be flat HTML
Flat interfaces avoid these problems.
It will take the same amount of time to load a whole new FLAT page with what the user requested.
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Name: Anonymous 2015-01-28 15:45

After getting a web dev job where I had to use JQuery for basic functionality and had to redesign every page 6 or more times for different resolutions, I have come to appreciate "black text on white background" web design a lot more. I do wish we could go back to those days. But honestly, websites for wise users are still made like that. It's the [b][i][o]Enterprise[/b][/i][/o] crowd that does these things.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-28 16:52

>>25
This so called ``web dev'' doesn't even understand tag nesting.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-28 16:55

>>26
HTML doesn't require proper tag nesting. Browsers autocorrect wrong closing tags anyway, why waste bandwidth on useless tags?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-28 17:05

>>27
ちゃんとしてよ!

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-28 17:13

>>28
ちゃんとこれをしよう
*玉茎を取る*

Name: Cudder !MhMRSATORI 2015-01-28 21:07

>>29
Did you mean 掴む

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-28 22:26

sending a new page is costly
It makes for a sluggish user experience. I know what you are thinking, why make a web app in the first place? Well, if I could suck dick for a living I would do that instead, but I can't, because people prefer female prostitutes and web apps.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-29 0:06

>>27
why waste bandwidth on useless tags?
I know, right? We could be using <b nigger> but the Jews insist on <b>nigger</b> and their loose syntax rules with epic autocorrections for closing tags.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-29 1:12

"check 'em"

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-29 2:18

>>32
<u>hax <b>my</u> anus</b>

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-29 13:20

Name: Cudder !MhMRSATORI 2015-01-29 15:23

It makes for a sluggish user experience.
No, loading tons of JS library application framework bootstrap container bullshit is what "makes for a sluggish user experience" when it causes the browser to eat up all the CPU and RAM of the user's machine, forcing it to start swapping...

When going to one of these "app" sites, you first have to wait for several MB of JS, CSS, and images to download, then wait again while the CPU churns (often with a little animated "loading" thing - that takes CPU time too) to get to the info you want... which is often in the range of a few KB. What sort of idiot even thinks this absurdity is anything but a pure waste of resources for no bloody good reason?

Just read my previous rant(s)...
https://warosu.org/jp/thread/S8598688#p8598688_24

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-29 16:35

Cudder is all talk and no action.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-29 16:38

I wrote my website from scratch. It's pure HTML+CSS I did by hand. And even if you use a browser without CSS support, the website is usable. It is the best. No PHP, databases, JavaShit or any bullshite like that.

Name: sage 2015-01-30 4:41

>>14

Use a CSS3 media query

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