common lisp is a bad language, the people that use it are assholes and have taken ownership of the word "lisp". people who might have got interested in better lisps have been pushed away by them.
people who might have got interested in better lisps have been pushed away by them.
Why would anybody want more people who are easily pushed away in their community?
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Anonymous2015-09-03 11:57
>>6 "Common Lisp" was an amalgamation of the commercial Lisps of the time, making a "common" language between them.
Yeah, not a shitpost. Sue me.
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Anonymous2015-09-04 2:43
Common Lisp is a horrible language. It's made more horrible by the fact that a lot of substandard programmers use it, to the point where it's much much easier to generate total and utter crap with it. Quite frankly, even if the choice of Scheme were to do *nothing* but keep the Common Lisp programmers out, that in itself would be a huge reason to use Scheme.
Common Lisp is better because it's more precise. I mean, how do you know if you're defineing a parameter or a function in Scheme? In CL, it's all very clear. CL also doesn't encourage recursive nonsense by requiring TCO. Recursion might be interesting in an undergraduate math class, but it quickly loses it's novelty after that. Honestly, recursion is a crutch that bad problem solvers use when they don't know what they're doing. "Oh well, this problem is hard. It's just like this other case, so I think I'll just change it a little bit and call back into this function like a dipshit." Imagine a world where people weren't wasting their time learning stupid shit like recursion or finite automata or predicate logic. The real world, we use test cases for everything. This is an Aristotelian world. There is no place for obsolete rationalist bullshit anymore. That is why Common Lisp is better.
>>24 Because it isn't. LISP must have homogenous syntax, Clojure is non-homogenous racist shit.
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Anonymous2015-09-06 11:39
In fact, many Lispers consider XML (a popular format for representing hierarchical data) somewhat of a reinvention of the syntax expression format that Lisp pioneered.
Lisp confirmed for ENTERPRISE QUALITY
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Anonymous2015-09-06 12:10
Lisp is a Jewish lie
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Anonymous2015-09-07 8:07
>>26 That's like saying smalltalk is enterprise quality because java is ``object oriented''.
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Anonymous2015-09-07 11:55
Java makes Smalltalk the "enterprise language".
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Going GNG is Not GNU2015-09-07 22:07
Lisp is powerful, but that means it is a double edged sword, like C++.
People think lisp macros are different than precompile preprocessor macros, but in fact they are more similar than you think.. possibly even worse...
I'm not 100 percent against lisp, as it is powerful - but one still has to be a skeptic of it. An A.I. may need a powerful language without too many limits (an A.I. would not like Java) but humans need some limits and we aren't smart A.I. who totally understands lisp. So humans need languages like oberon, plain C, Go language, etc. But would an A.I. brain be limited with plain C, Go, etc? probably. But I could be wrong - maybe it would figure a way to make use of simple languages and just write more lines of code. Trade off: powerful languages can say more with less lines of code. Double edged sword (Perl, Ruby, complex mind games)
Life considered harmful. Puts you in the constant danger of dying. I mean, you could get hit by a meteor while walking down the street or blown up by a jihadist in the office. Life is so dangerous!
>>27 Lisp was created to perpetrate the AI scam. Scammers harnessed the power of universities and Hollywood to get the public, businesses, and government agencies to believe (and invest) in the scam.
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Anonymous2015-09-09 16:03
Why can't anyone understand that we live in an 98% analog world where impossible-to-exist powerful self-conscious AI wouldn't be able to do anything but interact with their limited outputs.
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Anonymous2015-09-09 16:05
>>38 you're anus is a leaky abstraction too much haxing