I want to tell you about this thing called "Infinity Awesome". Sorry I mean "Infinity Fuck Yeah". Wait no, "Infinity Next", yeah that's it. It's basically going to be the most ghetto fabulous techno-fly bizness for your sheeeeiiiit, and it's being developed in house right here right now at this post-cuck hotpocket infested slum we call [post error] h- [post error] hom [post error] … this hotpocket infested slum we call home.
What does Infinity Next offer you? Fucking everything. Internet fame, riches, girlfriends all around. It's coded to be the most streamlined series of pylon enhanced access points modulated with compressed transfer streams for all your badonkadonk needs. You want Normies? It has that. You don't want Normies? It has that too. It's pages upon pages of tomorrow's memes today looped into a wormhole and injected straight into your eyeballs. And if you were sick of the hotpocketry, guess what, I'm posting from Infinity Next 5 years in the future right now with it's temporal flux legacy shitposting feature, and I've prevented any hotpockets from posting in this thread. What what bitches.
Infinity Next is everyone's jam, so get hyped because it's going to change. your. life. Now if you'll excuse me, I have a date on Next's holodeck with a 10/10 Japanese model who wants all 20 inches of that infinity dick.
hotpocket infested slum we call [post error] h- [post error] hom [post error] … this hotpocket infested slum we call home.
What does Infinity Next offer you? Fucking everything. Internet fame, riches, girlfriends all around. It's coded to be the most streamlined series of pylon enhanced access points modulated with compressed transfer streams for all your badonkadonk needs. You want Normies? It has that. You don't want Normies? It has that too. It's pages upon pages of tomorrow's memes today looped into a wormhole and injected straight into your eyeballs. And if you were sick of the hotpocketry, guess what, I'm posting from Infinity Next 5 years in the future right now with it's temporal flux legacy shitposting feature, and I've prevented any hotpockets from posting in this thread. What what bitches.
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Anonymous2015-12-19 15:37
The Infinity Next migration ran on December 18th was only a partial success.
The main problems that arose were:
1. Significantly longer import times than what was expected. 2. Some content (specifically, webm thumbnails and a few custom board items) were not imported at all. 3. The NFS drive / the importer had invalid permissions which stalled the import by a number of hours. 4. PostgreSQL queries for the new database now containing multiple millions of active records are too slow for production purposes.
The most painful part of this experience is that all the core functionality ported over quite well but the end result is something too sluggish to use. Although the beta site ran exceedingly well, the import does not. If this is due to a configuration issue exclusively or a lack of query optimization remains to be seen. Indeed, a lot of the time spent in the last few hours were spent determining if there were quick fixes we could apply. Sadly, that is not the case and we will not prolong 8chan's downtime to resolve this issue.
There are three things to keep in mind with this outcome.
1. 8chan's old software will come back up -- for now. 2. We will not run another import. Anything new posted to 8chan's current site will be lost with it when the switch happens for real. 3. The beta site will be the "real" site when it has received required updates. No information posted there will be lost.
Development time will be spent eradicating performance issues, and to bring the beta up to a usable point as quickly as possible.
This has been a frustrating ordeal. I've been awake for 3 days, bar a few power naps I took between import stages, running on nothing but aspartame and instant ramen. While I would love to switch over right now, I will not allow my pride to subjugate thousands of people to a site that, at the moment, just does not run as well as I demand it does.
“I wonder if I've been changed in the night. Let me think. Was I the same when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I'm not the same, the next question is 'Who in the world am I?'”
While you wait, perhaps try chatting in IRC or watching videos on Synctube (rest in peace young nigga, there's a heaven for a G). Or both, or neither. Thank you for your patience, see you on the other side.
A thread for updates nvm lol just w8
Upd8: All text has imported, images are now being imported.
Upd8 2: Image import is taking longer than anticipated. We're on it. ETA 10:00PM UTC, but it will be sooner if we find a way to speed it up.
Upd8 3: The import goes alphabetically and is currently (6:35 PM UTC) on H.
Upd8 4: (Warning: technobabble incoming) When we did the original import we saved the files under the correct user but the wrong UID. This means that the server with the RAID had the 8chan user as UID 1000 while the new server for Next had it as 80. Due to this mismatch we have to do `chown` to reset the permissions of all files to 1000. Unfortunately due to the speed of the array and the number of files the procesa of rewriting permission tables is slow. ETA: 3(?) hours? It's hard to say as chown has no progress bar, processes files out of order and I'm using `strace` to track what file it's on. (5:01 AM UTC Saturday Dec 19)
Upd8 5: Ownership change done, now importing assets (custom flags, banners and so on). (6:35 AM UTC Saturday Dec 19)
Upd8 6: We're almost out of the woods, but one query is really slow over the new large dataset. Unfortunately it's a super important query because it's for index viewing. We're on the case. (7:45 AM UTC Dec 19)
Upd8 7: We believe we've triaged the problem (PostgreSQL querying the posts table getting thousands of times slower due to sequential scans) with `EXPLAIN ANALYZE`. We're working on changing the query so as not to cause Postgres to do sequential scans. (9:50 AM UTC Dec 19)
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Anonymous2015-12-19 16:45
1. Significantly longer import times than what was expected. 2. Some content (specifically, webm thumbnails and a few custom board items) were not imported at all.
Why would this ever be an issue? Here is how you should have done this part: * Close old-8ch temporarily * Copy the database * Boot old-8ch back up * import from the copy into next
Now the import can take any amount of time and it will not affect users of the site. You can validate it to ensure everything was imported correctly before bringing next up.
3. The NFS drive / the importer had invalid permissions which stalled the import by a number of hours.
Use ZFS and don't be a fucking noob about permissions. man chmod. man chown. read it.
4. PostgreSQL queries for the new database now containing multiple millions of active records are too slow for production purposes.
You should have tested your software on the scale of data 8ch has before trying to bring it up live. This was the entire reason for rewriting the software - not testing it properly first is gross incompetence.
Do a small import before doing a large one to test permissions are set up correctly.
Do not stay up for 3 days straight: you will be stupider than usual.
Kagami felt her vein pulse out one more time which resulted in a sudden returning of the receiver to it's place on the phone base. She immediately realized she shouldn't have done that since now Konata would have confirmation that she had discovered another one of Kagami's secret fears, and would probably terrorize her with it later. It was already bad enough that Konata knew Kagami tended to get lonely easily, and it made her blush when Konata called her, "My Kagamin," or anything like that. She'd have to find a way to break her little friend of that habit, but thus far, she had managed to find only a few of Konata's little fears.
Laravel's PGSQL query planner is a shitshow, it's missing a metric fuck-ton of grammar from what I've seen, and doesn't even work right with binary.
I'm going to fork the Illuminate Database and begin building my own. I've never forked the framework before so the solution to this problem is going to be 90% meta bullshit and 10% writing new model SQL interaction.
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Anonymous2015-12-20 15:53
>>13 A sociopathic, manipulative Kagami~n is so cute!
Yesterday, someone offered to try setting up Infinity Next on a personal server. This server's hardware very closely matched what we have to use for 8chan; 8 cores, 8 gigs. It ran perfectly. Many of you may have experienced a brief redirect from /b/ or /v/ to an "odili.8ch.net" yesterday, this was us testing the hardware. This computer ran FreeBSD with PHP5.6-FPM (later PHP7-FPM), Postges, Nginx, and Redis.
A reformat of Five, our web server, was committed and now it runs Debian. This came after an expert network and system administrator from 2ch reviewed our stack. I've installed the older stable version of PHP5.6 and have tested it. The results are not good and it is increasingly frustrating to understand why.
This burngraph of the beta (http://i.imgur.com/EFpV0C6.png) shows a pretty slow response time of 450ms for the home page. Odili's server was easily dishing out similar replies in under 100ms, and Json replies especially were handled quickly. However, on our live node, it can take a full minute for a reply for no discernible reason. I, and more experienced web admins, cannot pinpoint the precise location of the problem.
I've said this before, but if this was a problem with just Next I would have no issue what so ever admitting personal failure. A similar issue happened in December where our Postgres driver was too slow. I had to take a few work days to write my own that was better than Laravel's. This is not the same vein of problem. For whatever fucking reason, there is a mystery lag before a response even begins to generate. It has absolutely nothing to do with load. At peak, odili's server was handling 40 requests a second
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Anonymous2016-01-20 4:01
warning the following links may expose your ip publically
I'd rather not see 16chan die a slow death from neglect so I am going to humanely put it down.
At the moment, I do not have the time, energy, or financial resources to give the love and attention that a community or open-source project needs to grow.
I appreciate everyone who stuck around during the life of the board and I enjoyed talking and collaborating with people just as weird as I am. I'm sorry I don't have what it takes to bootstrap this. I originally started 16chan as a place to showcase the software and it grew just a little heart because it had something special. With Ron now adequately approaching 8chan's issues using a playbook I contributed to, that something special is no longer so unique.
I have a dream that involves this place. Until I collapse, I will work towards achieving it, and when I have my resources together I will see it to completion. It pains me too much to let it languish in the state it was in.
Until next time my friends, Josh
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Anonymous2016-08-24 22:23
I'm the guy who told him to delete it and rewrite it in not-PHP from day 1.
Then why are they so much more popular and well-known than textboards?
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Anonymous2016-08-25 17:27
>>36 imagebabbies cannot cope without fun silly pictures to giggle at and obscene extreme photos to shake their willy at
but take any imageboard and disable images, within seconds and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I have ADHD please turn images back on this is ruining my life"
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Anonymous2016-08-25 20:38
>>36 If imageboards are so good, why aren't they more popular than Facebook?
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