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Name: Anonymous 2015-11-01 21:03

I have to make this comment with a throwaway as its related to my previous job. Leaving aside the technical issues the launch of systemd 'looks' very much like a playbook PR campaign designed to push through something unpopular.

The discrediting debates, labeling near abuse and mockery of opponents, appeals to authority and exaggerated consensus do not look accidental. This has all the markings of a sophisticated campaign.

For many this can be off putting but its also a wake up call on some naive ideas about how the world works. Money drives decisions, the cathedral and bazaar as a metaphor has no meaning when the bazaar has spawned a billon dollar cathedral in its midst, and like the failure of communism in practice this too could be anticipated. Money has its own agenda and always corrupts everything. And we all know this because its part of our historical record and common sense. And there is nothing we can do about that because in the real work words are meaningless. Individuals have zero power, groups have some power but its groups with money that hold the cards.

The Debian management tells users,not out of exasperation, or frustration but of arrogance that they essentially don't matter, and the only way they can have a voice is with code. This disrespect for users lies in contrast to a project that has none and thus the self awareness to realise it is meaningless without them. This new found arrogance sits uneasily with the ideals of the open source movement but anyone who draws the dots will realise its not an open source movement but a full fledged corporate movement with the thinnest veneer of ideology that is not up for 'management'.

For the next generation you cannot protect ideals if you enable and allow cathedrals to grow in your midst. For the current things do not automatically fix themselves, the awareness of the power of money to influence outcomes and how to firewall them, how to ensure co-existence, sustenance and growth, how to reward projects and developers and how to ensure you are not getting hijacked and sidelines by interested parties should be the 'community', and there is no such current organization in the ecosystem that's not tainted by corporatism and opportunism.

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-01 21:16

systemd
I do not use it. Skipping your post in 10, 9, 8...

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-01 21:40

This is why Android is the most popular Linux.

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-01 22:23

>>2
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commands before skipping, or 'c' for a command-line.

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-01 23:49

REMOVE SYSTEMD remove systemd
you are worst init. you are the poettering idiot you are the poettering smell. return to redhat. to our redhat cousins you may come our distro. you may live in /dev/null.ahahahaha ,debian we will never forgeve you. pulseaudio rascal FUck but fuck asshole poettering stink debian sqhipere shqipare..poettering genocide best day of my life. take a bath of dead poettering..ahahahahah POETTERING WE WILL GET YOU!! do not forget unix philsophies .fedora we kill the king , fedora return to your precious rhel. hahahahaha idiot poettering and debiann smell so bad..wow i can smell it. REMOVE SYSTEMD FROM THE PREMISES. you will get caught. gentoo+slackware+void+bsd=kill redhat you will 2038/ uriel alive in suckless, volkerding making album of slackware . fast program terrys temple . we are rich and have gold now hahahaha ha because of you are ppoor stink poettering you live in a hovel hahahaha, you live in a yurt

uriel alive numbr one #1 in 9front. fuck the redhat ,..FUCKk ashol poettering no good i spit in the mouth eye of ur flag and distro. theo aliv and real strong wizard kill all the poettering bloat ware with program magic now we the suckless rule .fag of /dev/null presidant kay siever fukc the great satan and lay egg this egg hatch and kdbus wa;s born. stupid baby form the eggn give bak our clay we will crush u lik a skull of pig. slackware greattst distro

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-02 1:44

*Lennart Poettering takes off wig, is actually Stephen Elop.*

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-02 2:42

I have to make this comment with a throwaway
POLECAT KEREDDITABS

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-03 19:52

"systemd was a mistake."
-Harry Poettering

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-03 22:55

>>8
Who are you quoting?

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-03 23:50

>>1
Money drives decisions,
Money has its own agenda and always corrupts everything.
yeh dude, imagine all that fat dosh systemd devs are raking in from them selling... eh, giving it away for free for anyone to use.
dat pottering chap became a billionaire from making systemd i herd,

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-04 1:31

>>10
He could have been the Notch of systems programming if he played his cards right.

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-04 3:12

>>9
it says Harry Poettering.

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-04 5:14

>>10
Well, RedHat does have an interest in making everyone else dependent on them with huge monolithic blobs, putting them in a Microsoft like position.

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-04 8:26

linux is crap, run bsd

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-04 8:42

run from bsd? okay

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-04 9:42

I installed OpenBSD and couldn't be happier.

Fuck Torvalds, fuck RMS, and especially fuck Lennart.

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-04 12:41

Lennart

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