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LISP: Language for Israeli Scammer People

Name: Anonymous 2015-12-13 18:46

The more I look into the history of Lisp and AI, the more I realize that their claims are nothing but another swindle committed by the usual suspects (it's the Jews, stupid!), just like Modern Art.

Name: Anonymous 2015-12-13 19:06

Have fun with C and Unix.

Name: Anonymous 2015-12-13 19:09

Have fun with Oberon and Oberon.

Name: Anonymous 2015-12-13 20:18

>>2
Fuck all the weigh-off.

Name: Anonymous 2015-12-14 2:40

>>1
Exactly. It's no different than ``String Theory'' or ``Global Warming'' research. It was all just a bunch of hype to extract as much research grants as possible.

That's not to say that LISP isn't important in its own respects. But it never was going to usher in the AI revolution.

Name: Anonymous 2015-12-14 3:29

The Huskal HAKAR tries to stand up from his seat, tried after trolling all day on the interwebs. He puts his smelly and dirty hands from the anal masturbation on the table but he can't stand up due to his fat belly. He swears rambling something about ``fucking C-scums, McCarthy was behind this''. He sends emails to his other fat and mental masturbating ``friends'' he has in the universities, hopping that they would send theoretical scientific help to him but they were unable to hear him as receiving mails is an impure operation, unfit for their functional and declarative ways.

1999 - Dec of 2015 RIP the Huskal HAKAR, he died on his seat from a heart attack after he learned that updating GHC requires world state.

Name: Anonymous 2015-12-14 11:16

>>1
another swindle committed by the usual suspects (it's the Jews, stupid!), just like Modern Art.

Oh no, not the western billionaires being swindled out of some pocket change and being too stupid to even understand what's happening! And the worst of it is that half of them are Jewish themselves, how could Jews do it to their own, what an injustice!

Luckily there's this penniless racist who is fighting to protect them from the Modern Art menace!

For fuck's sake, what a load of bullshit. Who is being swindled, you moron, is it the ordinary usual people who are paying exorbitant sums for toilets or something? No? Then what are you even about, degenerate?

Name: Anonymous 2015-12-14 12:18

>>7
Ordinary people feel the brunt of taxes used to fund university research.

Wealthy people just find loopholes and actually get paid benefits from the ordinary people by scamming the system.

Name: Anonymous 2015-12-14 13:04

>>8
What does it have to do with "Modern Art"? Again, last time I checked, it were billionaires who paid exorbitant sums for it, not universities, so who's your heart is bleeding for exactly?

Name: Anonymous 2015-12-14 15:11

>>1
Lisp was far more advanced than anything else at the time (and that still holds true today).

Nobody knew the limits of symbolic AI, and thought that it would continue to scale up to human-level AI, because of its earlier successes, and perceived similarity to human thought processes.

Name: Anonymous 2015-12-14 15:28

and the expert systems and such did serve their purpose well, and actually solved real, hard problems of the time. It just didn't usher in "real" AI.

Name: Anonymous 2015-12-14 16:34

>>10
What does "advanced" really mean? Lisp is "advanced" because the powers that be tell you that Lisp is advanced.

People believe this because they are convinced that Lisp is the language for AI and computers with at least the intelligence of humans is the most advanced thing that we can program.

Name: Anonymous 2015-12-14 18:14

>>12
People believed that Lisp is the language for AI because it was the only one at the time which could deal with complex, dynamic trees & graphs of data very easily. Much of the rational, symbolic AI thinking of the day required deep use of such structures, and nothing else came close.

It's also the only one to this day that can write and transform its own source code very easily.

It's one of the few 'dynamic' languages that's speed-competitive with C, and the only actually good language out of that field. Porting complex, dispatch heavy large projects from C++ to Lisp tends to increase runtime performance, as the language is far better suited to it, and it can change itself to suit the task instead of building up a cobbled together runtime platform from scratch in static C++.

Name: Anonymous 2015-12-14 18:17

oh, and it was also the only language with first-class functions for a long time.

Name: Anonymous 2015-12-14 18:31

>>14
Not so, but believing this myth helped Lisp researchers get more money.

Name: Anonymous 2015-12-14 18:34

Depends on your definition of first class, and also depends on your definition of what programming languages were "real" at the time.

Name: Anonymous 2015-12-14 18:36

Two words: LAMBDA FUCKING CALCULUS

Name: Anonymous 2015-12-14 18:47

>>15
It was true for at least one decade (and I would say realistically even two decades)

Name: Anonymous 2015-12-23 19:34

>>15
Whenever you repeat a Lisp myth, swindlers take money away from real innovators.

Name: Anonymous 2015-12-23 19:57

>>19
I investors actually run from the Lisp mythology these days. It's the Haskell monads that are doing it now.

Name: Anonymous 2015-12-31 3:49

Who will maintain CLISP after the race wars are concluded?

Name: Anonymous 2015-12-31 3:51

>>21
It hasn't been maintained for over 5 years. It's dead.

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