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Is it possible to steal a source code?

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-03 3:01

Is it possible to steal a source code just from the creator hosting the game? If so, is there a way to stop it from happening? Because some guy came in, said lol! hax0r! and left. I'm alittle concerned, his name was Dhakkon.

Anyways maybe i'm just over-reacting. But i spent about 5 months on the code and I don't want it stolen.

Name: Mentifex 2016-01-03 4:59

Please steal the Mentifex Strong AI source code mentioned at

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.ai.nat-lang/wJxUO8buIcc/Y0dGPsQpDQAJ

"Trollheaven Magazin Januar 2016"
on page 26 has a section in German
"1.9.4 Auf dem Weg zu Human-Level-AI"
or, "On the Way to Human-Level-AI".

The author Manuel Rodriguez says in German that
"AGI oder auch Human-Level-AI kann auf zwei Wegen
realisiert werden. Einmal klassisch durch einen
selbstlernenden Algorithmus. Bestes Beispiel hierfür
ist sicherlich der Ansatz von DeepMind (General Game Playing),
oder AIXI (Kolmogorov Induction). Beide Ansätze basieren darauf,
dass man sich vom Servereine Datei herunterlädt die rund
100 kb groß ist, diese auf seinem Rechner startet
und aus diesem Programm dann eine Human-Level-AI heranwächst.
Auch Mindforth gehört in diese Kategorie und zwar deshalb
weil der Source-Code vom Umfang her sehr klein ist."

My rough translation of the above paragraph into English:
"One can realize Artificial General Intelligence (AGI)
by two routes. For one, classically through a self-learning
algortihm. The best example for this is surely the attempt
of DeepMind (General Game Playing) or AIXI (Kolmogorov Induction).
Both attempts are based on the idea that from the server
one downloads a database that is roughly 100 KB in size,
starts it on a computer and then a Human-Level-AI grows up
from this program. Even Mindforth belongs in this category
since the source code is very small in size."

As the author of the above-mentioned Mindforth, I hasten
to point out that the Mindforth AI is available from

http://www.nlg-wiki.org/systems/Mind.Forth

by ensuing links, and a German version from

http://www.nlg-wiki.org/systems/Wotan also by reference.

Apparently the author of the "Trollheaven Magazin Januar 2016"
first became aware of the Mindforth and JavaScript AI Minds
around September of 2011 as shown in a Usenet exchange at

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/de.comp.lang.javascript/JgTCdm3bu5c/KrTH9EUxeeEJ

and the same author four years later in 2015 made these blog-posts:

http://aa5new.wordpress.com/2015/02/22/mindforth-oder-warum-forth-heute-ausgedient-hat

http://aa5new.wordpress.com/2015/02/24/mindforth-genial-oder-absurd

http://aa5new.wordpress.com/2015/02/24/bug-mindforth-ist-schlecht-dokumentiert

http://aa5new.wordpress.com/2015/02/24/mindforth-dbpedia

https://aa5new.wordpress.com/2015/05/13/was-ist-true-ai

which collectively show a transition from an initial reluctance
to ascribe any merit to the AI Mind programs and a gradual
acceptance of the possibility that Mindforth may have merit.

I wish to thank the author of the German blog material
for his voluminous AI writings that show some long overdue
respect for Mentifex open-source independent-scholar AI
and I wish to greet AI enthusiasts in this New Year 2016.

Arthur T. Murray/Mentifex
--
http://ai.neocities.org/AiSteps.html
http://www.google.com/patents/US8620890
http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=307824.307853
http://ars.ict.tuwien.ac.at/new/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Diss-Deutsch.pdf

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-03 5:39

>>2
No.

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-03 6:46

>>2
I, for one, already did; I gave it back when I saw it. I don't know Forth and have never used it, but I could still tell that it was very, very bad Forth.

But anyway, where is ANDRU living at now that Jewgle Code has been set to read only?

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-03 6:54

>>1
Yes, it's stealable. Even if you have your machine offline, export a web front end from it, and host that, the backend code is all still stealable. 5 months on code is a super long time, so I can imagine just how elite it is, and that you want to protect it.

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-03 8:31

>>4
Hello Reddit[i]![/i}

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-03 18:23

>>6
Hello 4chan!

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-03 19:34

>>7
Hello ANDRU!

Name: Mentifex 2016-01-03 22:04

Achtung! Genius programmers of Progrider,
please look at the following link:

http://www.acronymattic.com/Mentifex-Theory-of-Mind-(MTM).html

Very truly yours Mentifex was ego-surfing just now on Google
for Mentifex "Jan 2016" and up came the above link.

Perhaps Netizens are beginning to take seriously

http://mind.sourceforge.net/theory5.html

Name: Mentifex 2016-01-03 22:23

Hey, can any Progrider tell me what it says about Mentifex AI?

The following link claims that my browser is "too old" to use:

https://forum.fractalfuture.net/t/what-i-have-learnt-from-a-failed-kickstarter-project-in-artificial-intelligence/753/18

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-03 22:34

>>10
The horrible truth!

Nuzz (Nuzz) 2016-01-01 02:09:31 UTC #14
You won't get much support from the public if experts do not endorse the project. The reason for this is that an expert, who is already trusted by the "general public" (even not even necessarily an AGI expert) will come along and point out the red flags in the project and the summarily advise people not to donate money. The fact that you want to avoid such expert opinions is a red flag in itself, and begs the question of why you are soliciting money from the general public if expert peer review is something you're trying to avoid?
If you want a concrete case study of another project that has gone down a path similar to yours (e.g. optimizing for validation from the general public rather than experts) then I recommend looking into Arthur T Murray's Mentifex AI.

Name: Mentifex 2016-01-03 22:36

>>11
Thanks for "the horrible truth"; bye for now, shutting down.

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-03 23:05

>>10
A bunch of cocksucking Satan worshiping child molesters are reinforcing their circlejerk by refusing to admit that anyone could possibly operate without their approval. Just ignore them.

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-04 2:27

Yes. Every time you run "git clone https://github.com/someFaggot/someRepo", you are STEALING many source codes!

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-05 3:21

You wouldn't steal a car.
So why would you steal a source code, you little piece of shit‽

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-05 10:26

It is possible to steal a source code, but only one. That doesn't get the thief very far.

Name: Anonymous 2016-01-06 6:41

You stealing my arts! Fur fags fack you

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