2016: The Year Lisp Dies

- Single threaded "cuz the 80s yo"; parallelism requires god awful, non-standard hacks
- Reliant on a proprietary product (e.g., LispWorks) to do any real project
- No libraries
- Community jerks off over "clever little hacks" instead of interesting programs
- Emacs cancer
- No libraries

Yes, macros and true metaprogramming is beautiful. But then you realize macros are only there to patch the faults of Lisp (i.e., not having a syntax) which has already been solved by other languages for several decades. The only problem that macros (weakly) solve is the fact that you're using Lisp.

Lisp's homoiconicity is actually a drawback in practice. Lisp programs are quadratically less readable and maintainable as the program grows. Every Lisper writes spaghetti code on par with PHP. That shit stopped being acceptable around 2005.

All the smart people have moved on to Haskell and FIOC.

Do HASKAL NOMADS seriously argue about readability?

>>2
This is like someone who only knows BASIC complaining about all the asterisks in a C program. You're expected to know the language.

Wow, -3/10. Why is there such a strong desperation about Lisp from the absolute shittiest trolls?

>>1

spaghetti code ... stopped being acceptable around 2005.

What are you, 12 years old?

yup, lisp is crap

>>1

The only problem that macros (weakly) solve is the fact that you're using Lisp.

SELF PERPETUATING SELF INTERPRETER

リスプはもう死んでいる。

>>7
PERPETUATE MY ANUS

>>7
Lisp truly is a virus, infecting everything it can with itself and destroying it's host in the process. Thankfully, CAPITALISM have immunized us from this dastardly Jewish plot.

>>1

But then you realize macros are only there to patch the faults of Lisp (i.e., not having a syntax) which has already been solved by other languages for several decades. The only problem that macros (weakly) solve is the fact that you're using Lisp.

Please give example(s) of such languages.

>>11
Nice dbus bro

Lisp is the hipster's language. The Lisper can't decide on a syntax (pronoun)¹ likes. So (pronoun) writes in ASTs in order to justify the belief that (pronoun) is more enlightened than users of real languages.

¹ (defun pronoun (&optional (n '(she he it))) (elt n (random (length n))))

>>13
Almost every language has an AST. (Concatenative languages are the only ones that come to mind that don't.) Nearly all of those languages fix the AST and give you the finger if you want to do anything else. I don't know how an actual Satori-seeking programmer can deal with that static, lifeless, pre-baked model of programming. Code should flow like water, wrapping itself around the problem and solving it fluidly. Fixed, inflexible languages are like a rock, smashing everything to shit by default, and stupid to use for anything requiring precision or nuance. Use tools, not rocks, you caveman.

>>14
rocks is tools, dolt

>>15
Sure, Mr. Caveman. Your intellect is apparent.

SELF PENETRATING, SELF RECREATING!

>>14
Why don't you use concatenative languages then? They give you even more freedom for structuring your code.

Also, have you ever wondered why poetry is a higher form of art than prose?

>>14
Have you never seen any stone tools? Knapping ain't easy.

>>18
Concatenative languages are effectively unstructured and ad hoc. Fixed AST languages are unyielding rigid structures imposing unwanted limitations on your code. Lisp is the poetry to programming.

>>19
Stone tools are not just rocks.

CONCATENATE MY ANUS

Czech 'em!

>>20

Concatenative languages are effectively unstructured and ad hoc.

Who told you that? They are totally structured, it's just that you decide what the structure is.

>>20
poetry is unstructured and ad hoc

>>23
There is no structure in the language. It's all brittle and unaware of what it's running. Lisp is a fluid, knowledgable, imaginative piece of art that actually works.

>>25

Lisp is a fluid, knowledgable, imaginative piece of art.

So Lispers are actually artists composing programs?

>>26

Yes. LISP has been converting scientists into artists since before Matt Dickie was born.

LISP - Linked Investment Service Provider?

LinkedIn Sucks Penises

>>26
We conjure the spirits of the computer with our spells.