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Lisp, Java, and the Hegelian dialectic

Name: Anonymous 2016-11-28 1:58

This reminds me of the Hegelian notion of the dialectic -- thesis, antithesis, and synthesis. I guess that makes C++ the thesis, Java the antithesis, and C# the synthesis. But Hegelian dialectic is an iterative, ongoing process, so I guess the ultimate thesis, and the end of the history of programming languages, will be Lisp.

Really makes you think.

Name: Anonymous 2016-11-28 2:12

Square brackets make Clojure the acceptable Lisp.

Name: Anonymous 2016-11-28 2:34

>>1
really activated my almonds

Name: Rosenkavalier 2016-12-03 16:56

http://medium.com/p/579663474fd9

Pick-Up Lines From the Old Rosenkavalier Dude

These Rosenkavalier pick-up lines are extremely powerful and not to be used lightly or insincerely. If you use these Lines for nefarious purposes, may you be as doomed and accursed as you deserve.

I’ve been up all night. Really? You’ve been up all night? It’s hard to believe that you’ve been up all night, because you look as fresh as the morning flowers.

Don’t look now, but so-and-so famous television personality is sitting right over there. Do not turn your head. Look steadfastly into her eyes and say, “I would rather look at you, Musette.” She will gulp in astonishment and she will love you forever from that moment forward.

If a girl gives you her hand to shake and her fingers feel cold, hold her cold hand with your own warm hand and put your other hand on top of hers and say (or sing) in Italian, “Que gelida manina!” Mansplain to her the famous line from La Bohème by Giacomo Puccini.

Do not ever say, “That dress looks good on you.” Always say, “You look good in that dress.”

If a girl has one single discreet tattoo, say, “You’ll never make a good spy, because you have an identifying mark.”

“When they make a movie one day about you and me, which movie actress do you think should play the role of you?”

“What did you do to your hair? It looks really nice.” Usually she will say, “I washed it.

“I was thinking of you on March 20th.” Some bystander will then say something like, did you write it on the calendar? Then the girl will say to him, “March 20th just happens to be my birthday.”

“You are too young to remember, but have you ever heard of ___?”

“Is your name so-and-so? Two weeks ago there was a really beautiful girl here named so-and-so, and I thought maybe you were the same girl.”
http://medium.com/p/579663474fd9

Name: Anonymous 2016-12-03 20:53

>>4
Holy fuck Mentishit no wonder you don't get laid

Name: Anonymous 2016-12-03 21:27

>>5
Note that he has also explained that he only does this the the most beautiful women he can find, because than going after someone in his league.

Name: Anonymous 2016-12-03 22:11

>>6
lay off that joint

Name: Anonymous 2016-12-05 0:08

>>4
You make the e/b/in *tips fedora* meme make sense for once.

Name: Anonymous 2016-12-05 0:12

>>4
“You are too young to remember, but have you ever heard of ___?”
Whats supposed to be in `___'? `lisp'?

Name: Anonymous 2016-12-05 1:48

>>9
`the 60's'?

Name: Don Juan 2016-12-05 7:21

>>6
I have a way of satisfying a woman's needs that no husband can satisfy. They have dreams about me, which leave them deeply disturbed and conflicted. I drive them to a state of animal ferocity which I have seen described only in "The Razor's Edge" by William Someset Maugham, a description which I can not repeat here because firstly, it verges on the obscene and secondly, I do not remember the exact wording. I have only in recent years realized that I have this... shall we say... Royal Arthurian power over women. Next I may post about how today for the first time ever, I fell in love with a woman's shadow that her bobbing head and hair were casting onto a wall in the bright morning sunlight.

Name: Anonymous 2016-12-05 8:08

Name: Anonymous 2016-12-05 19:39

>>11
it verges on the obscene
You are a nigger kike and I fucked your mom in the ass.

Name: Anonymous 2016-12-11 20:18

Bumping to defeat DA JOOZ~!

Name: Anonymous 2016-12-11 20:21

>>12
Hahaha, Generation Snowflake. Enjoy your retarded liberal socialism.

Name: Anonymous 2016-12-11 20:40

>>14
U MENA URFIN JUS?

Name: Anonymous 2017-04-28 20:33

Now I finally understand what ``Lisp is the goal, C is the path'' means.

Name: Anonymous 2017-04-29 8:18

C is the anvil, Lisp is the sowrd!

Name: Anonymous 2017-04-29 18:58

C is the nigger, Lisp is the kike!

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-30 0:37

Behold, I am the Alpha and the Omega.
The First and the Last.
The Beginning and the End.
My name is Lisp.

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-30 1:42

In Freemasonry, we say Ordo ab Chao. Order from Chaos.

There's two interpretations, depending upon ones perspective and abilities.

To those of the Left-hand path, it takes the form of the Hegelian. You are familiar with this. Thesis, antithesis, and synthesis becomes problem, reaction, solution. Often one has a "solution" that would be favorable, and thus it is merely a matter of working backwards to generate the requisite problem to facilitate the necessary reaction, all in order to make your "solution" become the selected outcome. Hence the origin of most false flag operations throughout history. To create your new order by inducing the chaos in the first place.

Take a look at the Rust community. They follow this paradigm in attempting to establish their language, but more importantly in an attempt to devour the entire software community at large. All of social justice, communism, Marxism and so on follows this path. Sabbateanism/Frankism/Thelemism. The Path to Hell.

Desired outcome: They want total power in the domain of software development and they aim to accomplish this by moving everyone over to only use their programming language, which they can police and control.
Solution: Everyone must use Rust because it offers "safety".
Reaction: It's too dangerous to write software in unsafe languages.
Problem: Another catastrophic stack overflow caused because it was written in C/C++, which are inherently unsafe, if only they had used Rust instead. Only Rust provides safety.

And so they conspire and evangelize to promote click-bait articles highlighting the problems of C/C++ and the necessity of Rust.

Now, onto the other interpretation of Ordo ab Chao.

To first identify the chaos within oneself and the problems created by one's own ego is the first step towards overcoming the self and remaking oneself anew. To integrate and subordinate the shadow of one's being so that you are able to overcome it. To slay the inner demons and use the freed chaos within to establish a new inner order. To fix the problems of your own existence first and foremost, recognizing at last that it is the concept of the self that holds one back. Only then will you have transcended the self and become one with The Almighty and embarked on His path. Then gates of satori open themselves to you. Watch the movie "Revolver" and you'll understand.

Is this not the path of the lone Lisp hacker? Although, Lisp is too concrete and specific of concept here. A better abstraction would be Lisp on a t-shirt or McCarthy's original paper on Lisp. Various Xerox Park researcher's ideas of coming up with the Maxwell equations of programming. Of how to change your perspective to successfully surmount a corresponding programming problem. Programming distilled to its essence.

False power awaits those who attempt to bend and reshape the material world to satisfy the base desires of their ego. This is the Left-hand path. The devil is legion, and those who follow the Left-hand path, unknowingly or otherwise, typically do so in groups.

The other hand, the Right-hand, this is the path of solitude towards true power, but only for those who instead bend themselves to the higher-plane of the immaterial world, those who risk everything in battling the devil within, and those who ultimately align themselves with the essence of The Monad.

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-30 9:49

>>19
C is the african-american, Lisp is the kfc.

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-30 10:24

ooga booga were dem undefine behavior at

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-30 10:38

>>23
Everywhere.

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-31 3:04

>>24
Shieeet

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-31 9:09

>>21
I appreciate the amounts of hermeticism you managed to stuff into a single /prog/ post but I need to point out that monad is not an idiomatic abstraction in the Lisp world. it can be done there (even Java has monads now, kind of) but it's just not how it's usually done. aligning yourself with the essence of The Monad would be the ultimate goal of a Haskellite while a lone Lisper would learn how to read, parse, process and redefine the abstract syntax tree of the universe.

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-31 11:48

Whats all this talk about nomads, anyway

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-31 13:54

>>27
it's what you call the people who use monads in functional languages.

Name: Anonymous 2017-08-02 4:29

Name: Anonymous 2017-08-02 10:04

>>29
I assumed it's a pun on this and Haskell monads

Name: Anonymous 2017-08-02 10:17

>>30
see >>28

Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 2:31

>>28,31
No it's not?

Name: Anonymous 2017-08-05 18:18

>>32
it would be amusing if it was

Name: Anonymous 2017-08-11 7:19

>>32
>>33
It was. Nomad was a recurring term to refer to Haskellers in a few old kopipes in the olden days when Haskal programmers were still respected and treated as equals by the Lithp-dominant /prog/

Name: Anonymous 2017-08-14 16:53

>>34
Thanks

Name: Anonymous 2017-08-14 17:28

Haskell Gonads.

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