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Intel rabbis warn companies against x86 emulation

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-11 0:29

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-11 10:51

So DOSBox is illegal?

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-11 12:44

Almost everything open source won't give a rat's ass about this while the biggest cancer in software fights the biggest cancer in hardware. I hope Intel goes through with this.

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-11 13:13

>>3
biggest cancer in software

Google?

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-11 14:32

>>3
I'm pretty sure they can still fight open source emulators.

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-11 14:57

Wine is emulator and therefore also illegal:
https://wiki.winehq.org/ARM

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-11 15:11

>>6
Did you not read that page or did you just not understand it?

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-11 15:38

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-11 17:02

>>4
Google is bad, but it didn't retard operating systems for two decades yet.

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-11 18:28

>>9

Windows XP was pretty good OS. Windows 95 and DOS were good enough to run on the contemporary hardware and simple enough for majority of users to handle them. DOS is an order of magnitude simpler than typical Unix-like OS. Although Amiga arguably had better GUI, multitasking and multimedia capabilities. Still, Unix is just wrong - it was too hard for an average user, and modern Linux is a lot more harder to deal with.

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-11 19:37

>>10
Who cares about the average user?

Name: >>11 2017-06-11 19:41

>>10
Or maybe more importantly, how do you arrive at this average? If it's taken over people who were already crippled by Microsoft's shitware, you are just begging the question.

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-11 19:44

>>10
Obviously because Linux and modern Linux are both used for Server OSes, not Desktop OSes.
So yes it would be "too hard" for the average user.

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-11 20:41

>>12
Unix was hated by PDP-10, VMS, MULTICS, DOS, Macintosh, Lisp machine, non-Unix workstation (Xerox, Lisa, PERQ, etc.), and mainframe (IBM, Burroughs, Tandem, etc.) users. Unix was the beginning of everything that's wrong with corporate tech culture and hiring ``hackers'' who don't care about quality. Unix not only infected industry, but wiped out interesting academic research like orthogonal persistence and tagged memory that were starting to become mainstream. Unix took over workstations for the same reason Android took over phones: it was backed by a big company and third-party apps were ``portable''. If you haven't read the Unix-haters' book, please do so.
http://simson.net/ref/ugh.pdf
https://homes.cs.washington.edu/~levy/capabook/

>>13
Unix was a toy OS for the PDP-11, not a server OS. It was a uniprocessor OS for years. Linux was originally a toy OS for 386-compatibles, not a server OS. They were both ``desktop'' OSes, just not user-friendly ones. Buffer overflows and locking up aren't any better on a server.

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-12 0:30

I'd just like to interject for a moment. Linux is mostly used for phones and embedded shit

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-12 2:28

>>14
What do you think is the most common OS on servers these days? I mean, those might be valid criticisms of Unix, but apparently the industry thinks otherwise, since the only serious OS's still in use today are Windows and Unix derivatives and clones.

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-12 4:39

>>16
The industry isn't adopting JavaScript because it's good. Unix and JavaScript are a very good comparison. Unix started in 1969, but wasn't widely adopted until the 80s. JavaScript came out in 1995, but wasn't an important language until the release of node.js in 2009 and people started working on JITs and optimizers. Similarly, C originated when types were added to B in 1973, but it wasn't standardized until 1989 and was considered slow for years because the compilers were based on the Unix philosophy.

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-12 9:27

>because the compilers were based on the Unix philosophy.
*GNU Not Unix Philosophy.

Originally named the GNU C Compiler, when it only handled the C programming language, GCC 1.0 was released in 1987.[1] It was extended to compile C++ in December of that year. Front ends were later developed for Objective-C, Objective-C++, Fortran, Java, Ada, and Go among others.[5]

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-12 14:42

>>16
z/OS is a pretty "serious OS" though it also supports many unix apps.

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-12 16:07

>>19

"UNIX System Services (USS) is a required, included component of z/OS. USS is a certified UNIX operating system implementation (XPG4 UNIX® 95"

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-12 16:20

>>18
The GNU's Not Unix Philosophy is responsible for C being fast. GCC is from the MIT school, not the New Jersey school. C used to be slow because optimization was considered ``bloat'' and most of the good things we think about Linux or commercial Unix were considered bad to the original Unix creators. This is a very different culture, too. Unix without these outside cultures would be more like Plan 9. If you go to boards for other languages and point out that the language standard ``technically'' lets you do something retarded, they will say that no actual compiler would ever work that way because idiots aren't writing the compilers. Phrases like ``nasal demons'' come from Lisp/MIT culture. New Jersey culture wouldn't have enough optimizations for them to matter.

https://blog.regehr.org/archives/213
https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20140627-00/?p=633
https://randomascii.wordpress.com/2014/05/19/undefined-behavior-can-format-your-drive/

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-12 16:29

>>20
USS was added to z/OS because of the ``open standard'' of UNIX, again, very similar to JavaScript being used on the desktop and on servers. Windows NT also had a UNIX subsystem.

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-12 22:58

Intel always wins

Name: Anonymous 2017-06-20 11:30

“We think of ourselves as an Israeli company as much as a US company,” Intel CEO Brian Krzanich said at a Jerusalem press conference alongside Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu following the Mobileye acquisition.

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