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infinite numbers

Name: ribbon 2017-07-05 15:15

So you see, there are two infinities: one of integers and one of real numbers. The latter is larger than the former, even though there is an infinite number of integers keep counting and eventually you'll get to any. This is not so with reals, because there are an infinite number of real numbers in a single integer you can never progress past one. We don’t know any infinite ``numbers'' yet, but we can see that some infinite ``number'' must exist in order to describe the number of elements in the set of real numbers. So we decide to just give this infinite ``number'' a name. We call it ℵ0. We call this symbol ℵ0 ``aleph-null.'' Aleph is just the first letter in the Hebrew alphabet, and null just refers to the 0 subscript. ℵ0 is not a number in the way that 5 or 12 million or 3.79384509 is a number. We cannot count ℵ0 out on our fingers, we need to just become comfortable with the idea that ℵ0 is simply DEFINED to be the cardinality of the natural numbers, which is a certain infinite "number". Because ℵ0 is infinite, it is very large, so large that we cannot write it down except to write ℵ0

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-05 15:28

>so large that we cannot write it down
pfft, aleph null(integer limit) is smaller than (1/0) "real infinity"
((1/0)/0) infinity divided by zero is even bigger
(division by zero is eq multiplication by infinity)
((1/0)^(1/0)/0) (inf^inf)/0
(((1/0)^((1/0)^(1/0)))^(1/0)^((1/0)^(1/0))))/0

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-05 15:34

The universe is finite, its matter is countable. Wake up from your dream.

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-05 15:37

>>2
(1/0) "real infinity"
Nice shitpost.

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-06 0:40

>>1
It's pretty yucky really, there both essentially 1D, and dividing integers by some very large aleph-0 makes them equal the reals

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-06 0:52

The simplest proof would be that there is no two real numbers that are both not greater and not less than each other without being equal

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-06 1:19

but we can see that some finite ``slope'' must exist in order to describe the rate of increase in the set of "real" values. So we decide to just give this finite ``slope'' a name.

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-06 1:27

Using slope 1/inf >0 makes the set uncountable but it is still essentially integer-ordered

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-06 4:43

>>8
assuming integer infinity(aleph-null) 1/(aleph-null)=0.000...1,
but infinity can be in domain of reals as well.

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-06 6:36

>>7
Who are you quoting?

Name: Pope of Autism 2017-07-06 7:42

>>10
My dubs.

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-06 8:15

It's the same as if you partition the integers into an infinite number of fractions, won't each partition still have infinitely many integers?

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-06 8:22

if inf/2 = inf, inf/inf = inf?

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-06 8:29

>>13
Inf isn't NaN, inf/inf should technically be 1, but different(e.g. limit) values of inf make it undefined.

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-06 8:37

>>14
Infinity is not a number, so no it wouldn't be 1.

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-06 12:11

put the first million in partition 1 to 1000000
second million goes in 1 to 2000000 stride 2
ad infinitum

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-06 12:16

What programming language is this?

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-06 12:27

>>17
Lambda Calculus

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-06 12:29

As width 1000000 tends toward inf, minimum members per partition -> inf

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-06 12:33

* er, maximum members

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-06 15:03

How is infinity larger than another infinity?

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-06 15:26

>>21
Different process to reach them. An example with fictional banks and money.
Like if you had 2 banks each started with 100$ account of different percents rates.
Now imagine one bank gives you +110% daily but another multiplies your money x1000.
They both can reach "infinite money" but if we compare them by yearly rate,
the progress is much faster on the second bank.
At any point in time, the second bank account will be much larger than first.

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-06 16:28

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-07 5:24

>>22
a bad example

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-07 6:22

>>24
Infinite set comparisons operate on the same principle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantor%27s_diagonal_argument#Uncountable_set

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-08 23:42

>>2
Wrong

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-09 1:05

Usary is wrong and shall be forbidden under the Sharia.

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-09 7:37

Canada's Criminal Code limits the interest rate to 60% per year.
In japan the limit is 20% per year, bar pawnshops.
Each U.S. state has its own statute which dictates how much interest can be charged before it is considered usurious or unlawful.

It would be better to set the maximum interest over the life of the term to 10-15% and be done with it

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-10 0:22

>>27
Sharia banks still do usury, sorry

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-10 3:16

Infinite niggers.

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-10 7:49

>>30
African Americans*

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-10 9:58

>>30
tsk.

Name: Anonymous 2017-07-10 10:01

dubs

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