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Infinitesimals don't exit

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-09 2:24

In mathematics, they teach us about infinitesimals. But does such a concept even make sense in the physical word?

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-09 2:27

infinite loops
infinite crashes
infinite hours spent debugging
infinite sadness
infinite loneliness
an infinitely meaningless life
/prog/ incarnate Edited on 09/07/2018 02:28.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-09 4:16

>>1
The difference between speed of light and "physical objects can approach a speed of light but never reach it".

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-09 6:53

is OP an ultrafinitist anus?

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-09 9:46

god bless nj wildberger

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-09 11:00

It's measure algebras all the way down.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-09 18:48

physics-related problems motivated the invention of differential calculus

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-10 1:55

1/infinity = zero for practical purposes

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-10 2:07

>>8
true for that particular case of infinity, but there are some indeterminate cases though
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indeterminate_form

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-10 15:26

>>1
yeah.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-10 18:49

these dubs don't exist

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-10 19:01

>>8
What are those practical purposes?

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-10 20:40

>>12
graphing calculus shit

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-10 23:35

>>8
One of the problems with this is that -1/infinity also approaches zero. And, after some more naive maths: -1/infinity = 1/infinity; and finally: -1 = 1.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-11 1:42

>>14
you can't simplify it like that

it's actually 0 = 0

this is basic calculus shit

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-11 2:03

>>14
Isn't -1/infinity a fixed point though?

z=x/infinity approaches 0 as x approaches zero

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-11 3:02

>>16
Isn't -1/infinity a fixed point though?
What do you mean by that?
It's 0.

z=x/infinity approaches 0 as x approaches zero
Harder to visualize when it's written like that.
Time to bust out muh \(\LaTeX\) and BBCode skills!

\(\displaystyle{\lim_{x \to 0} \frac{x}{\infty} = 0}\)

But it doesn't even need to be a limit as x approach zero. It could even be a limit at infinity, just as long as the denominator has a higher power in the dominating x term than that of the numerator.
Example:

\(\displaystyle{\lim_{x \to \infty} \frac{x}{x^{2}} = \lim_{x \to \infty} \frac{1}{x} = \frac{1}{\infty} = 0}\)

For the above, coefficients don't matter as long as the numerator's dominating term's power is less than that of the denominator.

\(\Large Indeterminate \;\; Forms\)

The following are indeterminate forms:

\(\frac{0}{0}\) and \(\frac{\infty}{\infty}\)

However, the above indeterminate forms can be used with L'Hospital's Rule, at least when dealing with derivatives.

\(\displaystyle{\lim_{x \to c} \frac{f(x)}{g(x)} = \lim_{x \to c} \frac{\frac{d}{dx}[f(x)]}{\frac{d}{dx}[g(x)]}} = \)\(\displaystyle{ \lim_{x \to c} \frac{\frac{d}{dx}(\frac{d}{dx}[f(x)])}{\frac{d}{dx}(\frac{d}{dx}[g(x)])}} = \; ... \; = \;\)\(\displaystyle{ \lim_{x \to c} \frac{\frac{d^{n}}{dx^{n}}[f(x)]}{\frac{d^{n}}{dx^{n}}[g(x)]}}\)

Not to be confused with the quotient rule, which is different and doesn't apply here.

Other indeterminate forms:
\(0 \times \infty\), \(1^{\infty}\), \(\infty - \infty\), \(0^{0}\), and \(\infty^{0}\).

But for the other indeterminate forms, you're fucked, unless you can somehow factor shit out of them or find a common denominator to rewrite them as determinate forms (or, just get them into \(\frac{0}{0}\) or \(\frac{\infty}{\infty}\)to apply L'Hospital's Rule).

And you can keep on applying that until you get a determinate form (as long as \(g^{n}(x) \neq 0\)).

Name: Old Philosopher Dude 2018-07-11 12:02

>>17

limx→*** [The Stars are the Limit]

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-11 13:38

In mathematics, they teach us about negative numbers. But does such a concept even make sense in the physical word? Have you ever seen a negative number?

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-11 13:46

>>19
NEGATE MY ANUS

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-11 15:01

Limits
L'hospital's rule

Now you just need to bully me to complete the highschool experience!

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-11 17:22

>>19
5mph = going 5 miles per one in the forward direction
-5mph = going 5 miles per hour in reverse

getting paid $5 = net gain of $5 more than what you had before
paying $5 = -$5 compared to what you had before

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-12 0:57

>>17
It's a bit like saying 3/5 approaches 0.6, 3/5 doesn't move, it's a point and its set(/fixed) to that value of 0.6

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-12 1:42

In mathematics, they teach us about transfinite numbers. But does such a concept even make sense in the physical world? Have you ever seen a transfinite number?

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-12 1:47

check your cisfinite privilege, shitlords

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-12 2:56

>>25
Did you just assume my cardinality?

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-12 4:29

>>24
Have you ever seen a transfinite number?
Post-modern mathematics wholly supports LGBTQ numbers. Its not my job to educate you on progressive set theory, bigot.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-13 2:50

>>27
a person displaying excessive or prejudiced support for their own cause, group, or sex.

hmm, interesting

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-13 2:55

Synonym of bigot; Chauvinist

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