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Problem with the web

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-16 10:34

The problem with the web isn't j*vascript per-se, but rather the number of requests loading a web page these days take. Like, 100 to 200 HTTP requests.

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-16 11:05

A single request takes about 35ms. When bundling them together to reduce overhead (tcp headers & checksums & shit), it shouldn't take more than 200ms on a reasonable webpage.

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-16 11:44

>>2
stop thinking in terms of pages

nowadays, a ton of sites are SPAs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-page_application
AngularJS, for example, is a framework for making SPAs
https://blog.angular-university.io/why-a-single-page-application-what-are-the-benefits-what-is-a-spa/

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-16 13:22

The solution is obvious.

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-16 13:24

>>4
reading SICP? haxing anus? rewriting in rust?

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-16 17:14

>>5
When I make a shitty website, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless memory management code and error checking code! I just want an WEBsite!! Not a “phpsite”. Not a “pythonsite”. Those aren't even WORDS!!!! C! C! C IS THE STANDARD!!!

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-16 18:42

>>6
based and redpilled

you should have to do triple star pointer arithmetic by hand to serve a crud web page

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-16 19:15

grep and head are all that you need for an editor.

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-17 7:07

>>8
all you need is a hard drive and a magnet to edit the 1s and 0s

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-17 7:42

>>9
Real programmers use butterflies.jpg

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-17 7:44

Excuse me, but real Programmers use butterflies. They open their hands and let the delicate wings flap once. The disturbances ripple outward, changing the flow of the eddy currents in the upper atmosphere. Which act as lenses that deflect incoming cosmic rays, focusing them to strike the drive platter and flip the desired bit.

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-17 8:31

real developers buy land in the middle of nowhere and then build a log cabin and write a manifesto about anarcho-primitivism because technology sucks ass

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-17 8:33

>>12
Real developers just invent better technology. Anarcho-primitivism-defeatism is just regression to the past.

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-17 8:39

>>13
hard to invent better tech when your demographic is being replaced and surveillance tracks everything you do and you can get deplatformed for wrongthink

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-17 8:48

>>14
>deplatformed
>surveillance
Its like you can't imagine not living on social networks 24/7. Inventing new tech doesn't involve live-blogging about it every hour on face-twitter.

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-17 8:59

>>15
Its like you can't imagine not living on social networks 24/7
My life is unfortunately tied to social media. I get invited to events on social media. I get jobs through social media. I meet new people through social media. I coordinate group projects on social media.

I want to go full /innawoods/ eventually, but right now, I am stuck in a hellscape of likes and notifications and tracking.

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-17 9:11

>>16
You don't have to follow all that shit. "Invited to events", do they get insulted if you ignore it? is it a family gathering? If you can ignore it, ignore it. Tada, disconnected.
You don't have to quit cold turkey, just start being selective on what you allow in your life - higher standards== better life quality. Clean you feeds, subscriptions,etc.
Stop blogging and writing shit "just to vent". Concentrate on actual tasks and not social interaction.
You're probably feeling that you need constant social approval and support, but that is actually addiction.

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-19 3:22

>>13
Is that supposed to be a counterargument to primitivism? Regression to the past is the whole point. Important aspects of lived experience were better in the past. Inequality was lower, people didn't have to work nearly as many hours just to live, the state was escapable.

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-19 5:47

>>18
The state was not bothered with human rights and dignities.
There wasn't much power for the average citizen or peasant.
Everything was censored and controlled. Modern dictators hold a fraction of king's power.

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-19 6:20

>>19
Everything you know about the Middle Ages comes from Hollywood and it shows.

But consider: kings are not a feature of anarcho-primitivism, and most primitivists want to roll back to the Mesolithic or Paleolithic, anyway, not the Middle Ages. Depending on who you ask, social stratification began with cities (middle to late Neolithic), agriculture (Neolithic), or task specialisation (Mesolithic), and it's social stratification that's at the root of all evil men do.

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-19 6:54

>>20
Realistically, "neolithic" conditions will quickly recover to midieval political structure because they're going to annihilate primitivist cavemen tribes.

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-19 8:14

>>21
I feel like the failure mode is straight-up colonialism, not feudalism, but yeah, the economies of scale involved in centralised warfare, and the ability to use forced labour in waging it, are the problem I also see with universal anarchism (not just anarcho-primitivism). That's what ended up happening to every society approaching the anarchist ideal in documented history.
I see it working well for small communes that can stay off the radar, though.

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-19 18:18

>>20
Everything you know about the Middle Ages comes from Hollywood and it shows.
Believing medieval scribes and their drivel is far more enlightening? Do you think history before scientific method was totally unbiased and neutral, politically?

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-19 20:11

>>23
Were you dropped as a child?

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-19 21:38

>>24
Is the pope Catholic?

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-20 12:11

>>25
In 2018?

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-20 12:34

>>26
IN THE CURRENT YEAR

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-20 19:48

So with all the burgers I’ve been eating lately (gladly of course) I decided today to try an old favorite, the McDonalds Big Mac. I’ll admit, this used to be my favorite meal on earth, but since it’s been years since I’ve eaten anything at McDonalds that wasn’t on their Value Menu, I was really looking forward to having a Big Mac.

As always,the service was fast, the burger was delivered and the fries were crispy for the first 10 minutes. Overall the Big Mac is still one of my favorite “Fast Food Burgers” because of the secret sauce and because it’s so different. We all know that the you don’t eat a Big Mac for the meat and after eating a lot of really good, meaty burgers over the last few months, it was the sauce that helped me enjoy this meal.

My Big Mac rating is simple:the secret sauce is tangy, sweet and makes for a nice burger.It’s one of my favorite fast food burgers but only because of the unique and secret sauce.

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-20 22:32

>>28
what is this copypasta from?

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-21 2:52

>>28
I actually went to McDonald's today and got a Filet-O-Fish combo with a bacon cheeseburger on the side. I was eating it in my vehicle in the parking lot and listening to an audiobook when I glanced up and saw the McDonald's worker I ordered outside having a cigarette. She waved at me and I nodded and had to wait 7 minutes before she went back inside and I could eat in comfort again. I don't think that employees should be bothering or even trying to socialize with customers outside of the McDonald's restaurant or drive through, but that is another story.

I went to McDonald's for dinner the other night and got a McChicken combo with a bacon cheeseburger on the side. As I was driving to the second window the same girl was still working. She was acting somewhat obsequious and attempting small talk when she asked, 'why don't you come eat inside instead of in the parking lot where it is cold'. That really bothered me for many reasons. First of all, I don't want my routine or actions to be tracked by a fast food employee. Secondly, she should not try to tell me how I should live my life. I do not want to eat inside because I find it less comfortable and would much rather be inside my vehicle listening to an audiobook and enjoying myself and my privacy.

Overall, I think it was very unprofessional to bring this up. I should have a clean slate with each drive through visit, not have to get the third degree because I committed some sort of faux pas. Which I don't think I did, because I often see people eating in fast food parking lots. How does she know I am not busy going to work or somewhere in a rush? How does /prog/ feel about eating in your vehicle in the parking lot of a fast food restaurant versus eating inside the restaurant?

Name: Sherlock Homeless 2018-08-22 2:20

At McDonald's I eat only the Egg McMuffin, because I have a craving for them. Today at Burger King I ate the 2-for-$6 Whopper deal, both with "Heavy Onions" and both with "No Pickles".

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-23 23:48

>>30
This is why I eat all my meals at home. I mostly eat canned food and cereal. It's actually less work than having to go to McDonald's and shit, and there's no human interaction necessary.

Name: Anonymous 2018-08-24 0:48

>>32
based and redpilled

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-01 20:25

Problem with the web: it's shit.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-02 12:44

Problem is the JAVASCRIPT. Delete JAVASCRIPT for multiple performance improvements. JAVASCRIPT is an obsolete technology from times when the extent of what CSS could do was renaming <BOLD> to <STRONG>.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-02 17:46

>>35
CSS is actually slower than JS.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-02 20:18

>>36
It doesn't have to be.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-02 20:20

I have an 8-core processor and 64GB of RAM but god forbid if a website uses anything more than what was required for a website in the fucking 90s

unused RAM and CPU time is the only good way to use your computer

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-05 7:58

I have a 128mb powered by ethanol fuel cell fed methylated spirits extracted from blood of murdered krokodil junkies
respect my RAM and CPU and don't recursively load 50mb of js files to display a 100kb page

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-06 15:15

>>38
Most people use phones.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-06 17:21

>>40
mobile sites are different, and besides, most mobile sites just tell you to install the app anyway

in fact, reddit uses speed as a way to try and convince users that they need to install the app

they say the app is faster than the website, which convinces people to use the app

if the mobile web version was just as fast, they couldn't put a spin on it like that

mobile apps can do data mining and get phone permissions that are harder to achieve via web, and it's easier to block ads in a browser than in an app, so it's in the best interests of tech companies to make mobile web users feel inferior to app users

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-07 0:30

>>41
this is true. the web is very open and user-friendly. a lot of companies force you to use the app even though a web version was already implemented or trivial. for example Venmo disabled sending money via the web. Instagram doesn’t allow you to send messages on the web, even though their Windows app is made with JavaScript (they already have the functionality).

it’s a total scam. web is not as trackable, too easy to block ads, too pro user.

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